2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Audible what coverage changes? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.

I give up

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And don't you think the 2024 group is set up better for that?

This is what I think we added. But that isn’t what I’d refer to as an ideal full position capable slot WRs. These guys are green though. So how long it takes us to get any of them up and running doing it at a high level as pros is a big question. Much of our team situation feels like it’s a work in progress with optimism on the future with the development and understanding forming.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Audible what coverage changes? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.

If Hurts sees a blitz coming he needs to change the play. It's what great QB's do

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I've caught both....the pass is much easier than a punt. 

To be a returner you gotta be able to catch a P. To be a receiver you need to be able to catch a pass. I like Smith’s potential with us. Think he can contribute in some specialized areas for us. But even that I’m at a measured understanding of it needing time for it to be ready for the big lights and reliable.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The hard way is trying to win with inferior coach.

Best coach in team history...  that's what the records say.  

More claim to being the best coach than your claim of the current QB being best QB.  

IMO...neither are close...but the coach gets measured on wins..that's it. 

QB should be your teams best passer. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is what I think we added. But that isn’t what I’d refer to as an ideal full position capable slot WRs. These guys are green though. So how long it takes us to get any of them up and running doing it at a high level as pros is a big question. Much of our team situation feels like it’s a work in progress with optimism on the future with the development and understanding forming.

aka gel and chemistry. Hurts has some already with the outside WR's and Goedert if he is used correctly,which he was not last year. Bark will take pressure off Hurts having to run,but he is also a formidable pass catcher

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe he doesn't want to play slot,it's not what he is good at,he plays outside because that's his position/job and that's why he makes the big bucks. How about we play fundamental solid football and stop the trickery aspect for now? We will suck if we try to outsmart ourselves. We have solid players at every position,now and Hurts needs to see them and get the ball out and also see the PASS catching RB's. So which is it? it's not either/or,Hurts needs to play his position

AJ is good in the slot. Being predictable stale and vanilla is a problem and makes things that much more difficult. Lets unleash and utilize our guys the best we can.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Boxed in to thinking having a good TE helps?

I don't follow your logic? 

I never said a TE doesn’t help. I just pointed out for our team WRs are more important

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be a returner you gotta be able to catch a P. To be a receiver you need to be able to catch a pass. I like Smith’s potential with us. Think he can contribute in some specialized areas for us. But even that I’m at a measured understanding of it needing time for it to be ready for the big lights and reliable.

IDK what to think now with the new rules. So we get to see that now too

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is what I think we added. But that isn’t what I’d refer to as an ideal full position capable slot WRs. These guys are green though. So how long it takes us to get any of them up and running doing it at a high level as pros is a big question. Much of our team situation feels like it’s a work in progress with optimism on the future with the development and understanding forming.

Receiver is usually an easier one to get up to speed.   Slot is usually easier as well. 

I love how you spin it to where the rookie that GB likes will take 5 years to develop...but you wouldn't make the Saints trade 2 years ago because a rookie safety was going to make a huge difference?

Which is it?  Why flip flop?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

AJ is good in the slot. Being predictable stale and vanilla is a problem and makes things that much more difficult. Lets unleash and utilize our guys the best we can.

Execution before trickery,baby steps

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK I hope you don't feel this way about Mitchell or DeJean. He was the best SLOT WR in that draft IMO. My expectations are we play the best guy at the position,if that's him,so be it. Carry on

What rounds were each player drafted in? I’d say developmental expectations of NFL readiness should be somewhat commensurate  to round drafted.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What rounds were each player drafted in? I’d say developmental expectations of NFL readiness should be somewhat commensurate  to round drafted.

Why? If you have the talent you have it.Rooks are rooks no matter what round you get them in. Slot is not that hard to play

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Hurts sees a blitz coming he needs to change the play. It's what great QB's do

It's what NFL QBs do... I believe that has been addressed this offseason.  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

It's what NFL QBs do... I believe that has been addressed this offseason.  

I believe Hurts will have an excellent year

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be a returner you gotta be able to catch a P. To be a receiver you need to be able to catch a pass. I like Smith’s potential with us. Think he can contribute in some specialized areas for us. But even that I’m at a measured understanding of it needing time for it to be ready for the big lights and reliable.

15 catches 142 yards and a TD... you don't think Smith can offer that?   It was Quez contribution last year.  Without any return ability.  Or plays out of the backfield. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I believe Hurts will have an excellent year

I believe the offense will have an excellent year.

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Nah... Reid is just the best coach ever...nothing to do with Mahomes.

How do you flip flop on this stuff? 

I label Shula the best coach ever. But I do think AR is the best coach in the league currently. You need coaches and players. While boatload of trainers and dieticians and so on behind the scenes. I not only can understand how Mahomes takes what AR can bring to another level. But see how crucial AR has been to make Mahomes whom he is. AR had plenty of success with other QBs. Plenty of quality track record. Huge gap between that and Siri.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What rounds were each player drafted in? I’d say developmental expectations of NFL readiness should be somewhat commensurate  to round drafted.

Position matters too.

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you would prefer to get rid of Goedert for another WR?

You think a running QB losing his blocking...YAC creation specialist TE...for a WR3 works better?

Yes

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I label Shula the best coach ever. But I do think AR is the best coach in the league currently. You need coaches and players. While boatload of trainers and dieticians and so on behind the scenes. I not only can understand how Mahomes takes what AR can bring to another level. But see how crucial AR has been to make Mahomes whom he is. AR had plenty of success with other QBs. Plenty of quality track record. Huge gap between that and Siri.

So the league isn't pro Mahomes..it's just Reid is the best.  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Position matters too.

I forgot who the LS is and that's a good thing because it means he is doing his job and we were concerned about losing Dorenbos 

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

UH we HAVE one of the top 5 TE's??? Or maybe you don't think we do? The 5 top teams have the top 5 TEs not the top 5 slot WR's

I’ve seen Goedert ranked as top ten. I can agree on that. I like his all around ability. But why don’t we concentrate on what’s best for us. Fit things specifically to our team and personnel…instead of how things work for some other QB in a whole other scheme?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes

I think Hurts absolutely benefits the more we run the ball.  The better run blocking we can put out there the better. The more pass protection the better. 

Not to mention the situational amount of snaps the TE1 gets vs the WR3. 

3 WRs always has a TE. But 2 TEs...or any short yardage ...may not have the 3rd WR.  

 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Execution before trickery,baby steps

It’s not even really trickery…like The Philly Special….its executing a pro O. This just makes things easier. Not having the D completely prepared and sitting on what you are about to do. Stale, predictable and vanilla O is so easy for opponents to prepare for. That actually makes the execution just that much more difficult.