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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

My dad(GRHS) taught me that there is nothing wrong with failing if you learned what NOT to do in the future. I think Siri learned what not to do. It's important for me that he did so,so we shall see,but Fangio is experienced and Moore is no dummy either,so I'm looking to see a different team than we are used to. Hurts has a big learning curve ahead of him,so I am glad he is working hard because that will either make or break us. I am optimistic it's the former. Should be alot more fun to watch this team

The article about Lurie...he likes a collaborative approach.   He likes proactive approaches...regardless if they work or not.

You see a lot of stuff addressed this offseason.  Nobody shying away from responsibility.... well, maybe the stans of one person, but that guy is said to be having his best offseason .

My thing....there were issues last year, that I don't think was going to get fixed last year. 

1.  Was there a magic way we could have gotten the DL to rest after the Buffalo game?

2.  Was there a magic way we could add a bunch of new plays to the playbook?

The problems with the coverage I thought we could have addressed though... no more 12 yard cushion, Bradberry could have been benched...but to be honest,  it was one drive at the end of the Seattle game...wasn't a real build up. 

Idk... I'm passed that ... they had time to analyze and seemed they addressed the issues.  Now let's see what happens. 

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3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For us now right?

For us....absolutely.  he was better as a Giant than those guys....he will be better as an Eagle.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

One immature example out of how many? I’m telling you it’s not me that already made the plans about our coaching situation. I believe our FO made these plans. They make sense too.

Idk...I don't follow the TMZ stuff....just like I don't care about end zone celebrations or bat flips or whatever.   I'm too old to worry about anything but the game.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is that what Moore wanted? Haven’t heard him express that.

The coach....which is Sirianni... Moore is the coordinator.   

The coach was said to prefer running the ball more... that was supposed to be one of the issues between him and Hurts... 

Do you see any of the news that comes out....this was a national story just a few days ago!

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why do you say they like the CEO coach? Hired Pedey to be the O minded HC. Hired Chip being the O minded gimmick coach. Hired Sori the supposedly O minded HC. Not hiring sone very experienced CEO football guy. Hiring the green O minds.

Wow you are clueless...now this makes sense this absolutely stupid idea in your head.

They didn't hire Doug because of his offensive genius.  They didn't fire him because they thought he lost it

You just said they hired Siri because he had the plan to have the certain coordinators.

But now it's because of their offensive genius?

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The coach....which is Sirianni... Moore is the coordinator.   

The coach was said to prefer running the ball more... that was supposed to be one of the issues between him and Hurts... 

Do you see any of the news that comes out....this was a national story just a few days ago!

Article above(paraphrasing) said Hurts had chances to say something nice about Siri and did not. Handing the O over to Moore could reduce any friction. BUT,he will have his chances to praise Moore and he really didn't do that either. All Hurts said was it was "95% new" and Siri did not agree. So Hurts has been in the league long enough but still says it's 95% new? I don't see how that can be. I'm sure many of the pass plays could be new,but how many can their be? not close to 95%. I hope Hurts is on board because if the friction starts it's going to be a long year. I know Hurts is the quiet type, but he really needs to speak up if he likes what he sees. Maybe he will after camp

Lurie prefers a coach with am offensive background.    That's not " offensive genius"

You think he hired Siri over Moore because he thought Siri was better at Xs and Os?   

Clueless 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Article above(paraphrasing) said Hurts had chances to say something nice about Siri and did not. Handing the O over to Moore could reduce any friction. BUT,he will have his chances to praise Moore and he really didn't do that either. All Hurts said was it was "95% new" and Siri did not agree. So Hurts has been in the league long enough but still says it's 95% new? I don't see how that can be. I'm sure many of the pass plays could be new,but how many can their be? not close to 95%. I hope Hurts is on board because if the friction starts it's going to be a long year. I know Hurts is the quiet type, but he really needs to speak up if he likes what he sees. Maybe he will after camp

See...this is where I'm at.   Hurts has no choice....the owner/ GM basically said....grow up and do your job. 

That is the growth I'm talking about this offseason.  Things the players are all saying that is different about him. 

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s become very clear every time Siri calls plays it’s a disaster. To begin is reign here he called plays…started out what…2-6. Made the playoffs despite him being so horrible. Dug our way out of the hole he created to make the playoffs. Then it’s being said he was calling plays last season plenty too…especially during the slide. Not good.

It's very clear they had success with Siri not calling plays... if they have that same success again....why do you think Lurie will want to change ?

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Didn’t Lurie just recent come out supporting Siri?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-owner-jeffrey-lurie-still-believes-in-nick-sirianni-thinks-coach-can-become-all-time-great-per-report/amp/

FO can have all the plans they want they not over ruling the Owner. 

Ham doesn't read these national stories from the usual journalists.... he likes Barstool, Bleacher Report,  TMZ, Planet Saturn Sports etc.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why you acting like he called plays multiple times he only called plays at the start of his reign that’s it. Wasn’t good at it and handed the responsibility off realizing that is honestly a massive positive on Siri not a negative.

Just because your not a great play caller doesn’t mean your a bad offensive mind though 

More importantly...and it seems Lurie is big on this.... 

Just because you are a good play caller, doesn't mean you will be a great coach.

12 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Didn’t Lurie just recent come out supporting Siri?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-owner-jeffrey-lurie-still-believes-in-nick-sirianni-thinks-coach-can-become-all-time-great-per-report/amp/

FO can have all the plans they want they not over ruling the Owner. 

You fell for this fluff piece too? There isn’t even actually any news or anything story in this story. Clearly just a favored called in by Lurie to do something to counter the vibe of Siri being completely dead weight going into TC

14 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I haven’t heard Moore come out and say he wanted any player lol… for a OC that best years came with Zeke as the center piece of his O have to image he is quite happy to have Barkley. 

You get the feeling Fangio got his way some this offseason. Reddick I think was already decided. But Huff, Baun….Jalyx. Rosie was getting him his guys to build the D. Can’t really say the deal with Moore and the O. 

12 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why you acting like he called plays multiple times he only called plays at the start of his reign that’s it. Wasn’t good at it and handed the responsibility off realizing that is honestly a massive positive on Siri not a negative.

Just because your not a great play caller doesn’t mean your a bad offensive mind though 

Because rumors coming out since stating it was completely Siri O last season…and that he did in fact take over playcalling at the end. I agree you can be great O mind but not necessarily a good playcaller. But you can’t be good O mind if you can’t adjust and fix some of the basic X and O shortcomings we sank under at the end.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

For us....absolutely.  he was better as a Giant than those guys....he will be better as an Eagle.

I know the past. All that matters however is the future. He’s gotta stay healthy for us and not run out if juice.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The coach....which is Sirianni... Moore is the coordinator.   

The coach was said to prefer running the ball more... that was supposed to be one of the issues between him and Hurts... 

Do you see any of the news that comes out....this was a national story just a few days ago!

Nope hadn’t seen anything about what Siri would do when he gets any power over an O again. This is Moore’s O this season.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Wow you are clueless...now this makes sense this absolutely stupid idea in your head.

They didn't hire Doug because of his offensive genius.  They didn't fire him because they thought he lost it

You just said they hired Siri because he had the plan to have the certain coordinators.

But now it's because of their offensive genius?

Yes I said the coordinators seemed like the boost that got Siri the job. But they were hiring an O mind for the HC job. Siri’s O and he was playcalling. Wasn’t Steichen O or a plan he’d playcall. That’s what had to happen after Siri stunk.

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Article above(paraphrasing) said Hurts had chances to say something nice about Siri and did not. Handing the O over to Moore could reduce any friction. BUT,he will have his chances to praise Moore and he really didn't do that either. All Hurts said was it was "95% new" and Siri did not agree. So Hurts has been in the league long enough but still says it's 95% new? I don't see how that can be. I'm sure many of the pass plays could be new,but how many can their be? not close to 95%. I hope Hurts is on board because if the friction starts it's going to be a long year. I know Hurts is the quiet type, but he really needs to speak up if he likes what he sees. Maybe he will after camp

It’s all about the details

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Lurie prefers a coach with am offensive background.    That's not " offensive genius"

You think he hired Siri over Moore because he thought Siri was better at Xs and Os?   

Clueless 

I believe he thought it was close…but Rosie really loves some Gannon…that was what did it.

Cooper DeJean being placed on Nonfootball injury list…hamstring….bad news for sure.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Cooper DeJean being placed on Nonfootball injury list…hamstring….bad news for sure.

Saying three weeks 

Really a bummer on DeJean. I really was ready for him to be the starting Slot. But now I just don’t want him to rush him back. I just was hoping Fangio could get the Secondary geling and working together as much as possible. Not the end of the world.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You get the feeling Fangio got his way some this offseason. Reddick I think was already decided. But Huff, Baun….Jalyx. Rosie was getting him his guys to build the D. Can’t really say the deal with Moore and the O. 

Don't you think the D needed more pieces? A vast percentage of the O was already in place?

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