I hope Hurts gets this ONE thing down if nothing else. Pocket presence. Hurts is really bad at this.He has super strong legs and can stand his ground. Nothing wrong with a hop back one or side step to buy time or to take 2 steps sideways to see a blocked passing lane. You can do all this within the pocket without panicking and taking off. I really want to see this happen. You can't be a statue but you can move in the pocket without losing your mind

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I like Moore,ALOT. He will force Hurts to play the QB position as a passer. I love Hurts as a runner,but if he is going to be here for a duration,he needs to pass the ball or hand it off to increase his longevity. Moore will show him how to do new things and as far as I am concerned that is great for Hurts and the Eagles.Moore remembers the "air Coryelle" days of old. He brought out alot of good things with Herbert who had to perform with WR's injured. So I am looking forward to Hurts using tools he isn't used to using on plays he isn't used to running,but if he can master those he will be back in the MVP discussion and not just because we had an easy schedule

QBs on top teams are always in the discussion.    The 226 yards passing a game is tolerable in today's passing league... if the team is winning and the offense is controlling the ball.  Hurts has been a top ten passer ratings wise the first 13 weeks of the last 3 seasons....  drops down to 20 the last 5 weeks.  But it's harder to pass in the weather... so I'm not too concerned.  The offense as a whole, I think should be better this year.  I think the game should be managed better... clock management etc.  The coach no longer having to babysit the OC during the games should help.  We saw it in 2022, even though you were obsessed with running up the score instead of keeping the opposing offense off the field... I look forward to more of those debates soon.  

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I hope Hurts gets this ONE thing down if nothing else. Pocket presence. Hurts is really bad at this.He has super strong legs and can stand his ground. Nothing wrong with a hop back one or side step to buy time or to take 2 steps sideways to see a blocked passing lane. You can do all this within the pocket without panicking and taking off. I really want to see this happen. You can't be s statue but you can move in the pocket without losing your mind

I really want the step out of bounds to take a 2 yard sack to go away.  Flick the ball forward.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

QBs on top teams are always in the discussion.    The 226 yards passing a game is tolerable in today's passing league... if the team is winning and the offense is controlling the ball.  Hurts has been a top ten passer ratings wise the first 13 weeks of the last 3 seasons....  drops down to 20 the last 5 weeks.  But it's harder to pass in the weather... so I'm not too concerned.  The offense as a whole, I think should be better this year.  I think the game should be managed better... clock management etc.  The coach no longer having to babysit the OC during the games should help.  We saw it in 2022, even though you were obsessed with running up the score instead of keeping the opposing offense off the field... I look forward to more of those debates soon.  

Bark can do the slow grind with Shipley in relief. I'm not against ball control,what I am against is getting too conservative too soon. We lose some games doing that because it's hard to get "hot" again once you cool off

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark can do the slow grind with Shipley in relief. I'm not against ball control,what I am against is getting too conservative too soon. We lose some games doing that because it's hard to get "hot" again once you cool off

"ride the momentum" what I mean when I say run up the score. Do it while you can. When I say 31 PPG it's an average not expected every game,but if you look 31 PPG wins many of those. Like you can be a millionaire if you just shoot par on a golf course every time

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

THE OWNER IS ALL TAT MATTERS... THE OWNER LIKES THE COACH.... THE OWNER LIKES other attributes than " offensive genius"

The owner already had a bad experience with " offensive genius" ... the owner has had good success with CEO type coaches. guys that run the entire ship, not just locked away in the room with the pocket protectors designing plays.  

The owner prioritizes the O. Only looks to hire an O for the HC job…every time. He decided on the plan needed to be focus on development and building a D under Fangio. The coach that should be here more long term. So he can float this boat until any real quality HC can be brought in. Sad when you consider this was most likely the plan at DC last year with the hiring of Desai. He was just here to get by for one season to bridge the gap between Gannon and Fangio….without changing up personnel too much.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I really want the step out of bounds to take a 2 yard sack to go away.  Flick the ball forward.

I'm hoping he sees the slot guy for those. The slot spot can be a great tool to rescue a bad play.(Amendola/Edelman)

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm hoping he sees the slot guy for those. The slot spot can be a great tool to rescue a bad play.(Amendola/Edelman)

As a TE I was used like this,although that was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth LOL. I was mainly the "go to" guy when a play broke down

Avant was one of those types

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The owner prioritizes the O. Only looks to hire an O for the HC job…every time. He decided on the plan needed to be focus on development and building a D under Fangio. The coach that should be here more long term. So he can float this boat until any real quality HC can be brought in. Sad when you consider this was most likely the plan at DC last year with the hiring of Desai. He was just here to get by for one season to bridge the gap between Gannon and Fangio….without changing up personnel too much.

Let's also recall that Howie was gun shy about taking skill position D players in drafts. He always went with cheap FA's. He never gave Schwartz much to work with. Expected miracles with little talent. Now it seems Howie "gets it". He broke the mold and draft history. Maybe now he will do the same at LB next time around. HC, DC, OC won't matter without talent,Good players make coaches look good.It starts there-with talent

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark can do the slow grind with Shipley in relief. I'm not against ball control,what I am against is getting too conservative too soon. We lose some games doing that because it's hard to get "hot" again once you cool off

Which gamed have we lost doing that?   We almost lost games by giving Washington a chance to tie both tomes last year...and there was Dallas as well.

There is difference when you talk results vs the method.    The ball moving is one thing... my point is they didn't eat up clock last year as they were doing it with leads.  How fast you snap the ball... the play call, taking a short sack to keep time moving instead of incomplete before the punt..etc.   

These little things they didn't do last year...made the defense have to go back out on the field a few unnecessary times 

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The owner prioritizes the O

He should,points win games

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Which gamed have we lost doing that?   We almost lost games by giving Washington a chance to tie both tomes last year...and there was Dallas as well.

There is difference when you talk results vs the method.    The ball moving is one thing... my point is they didn't eat up clock last year as they were doing it with leads.  How fast you snap the ball... the play call, taking a short sack to keep time moving instead of incomplete before the punt..etc.   

These little things they didn't do last year...made the defense have to go back out on the field a few unnecessary times 

IMO you don't start the 2 minute drill with 12 minutes left or midway through the 3rd 1/4

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The owner prioritizes the O. Only looks to hire an O for the HC job…every time. He decided on the plan needed to be focus on development and building a D under Fangio. The coach that should be here more long term. So he can float this boat until any real quality HC can be brought in. Sad when you consider this was most likely the plan at DC last year with the hiring of Desai. He was just here to get by for one season to bridge the gap between Gannon and Fangio….without changing up personnel too much.

Which head coach called offensive plays before coming here?   

It's 2024... you keep obsessing with 2023.... move on. 

I'm all for ball control while you move the chains,but you need to do both. 3 and outs don't work

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

We almost lost games by giving Washington a chance to tie both tomes last year...and there was Dallas as well.

Didn't keep the pedal to the metal. You rest on a little lead you can get burned

BTW having Bark will help this immensely. Swift could not be a banger and keep the chains moving,Bark can

51 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You live in your own world .... just like similar with Ziggy and Lane...and the Saints trade not being a steal

So what if I liked that elite pass rusher in that draft in Ziggy. Top players were in awe of him seeing him play for the Lions. The Lions completely mismanaged his injury. The guy touched out playing through injury which ruined his career. Where’s the relevance of that to anything?

 Did we win our best setup I’ve ever witnessed to win the SB two years ago? Nope sure didn’t. Were we badly missing a S? Yes we were. Got super lucky that we afterwards could trade for CGJ. But we really still needed a top young S for then and the future. Those S grouping I talked about trading back for turned out to be successful NFL players. 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW having Bark will help this immensely. Swift could not be a banger and keep the chains moving,Bark can

Why I was SMH as to why Penny was NEVER used. I still can't figure that one out LOL

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IMO you don't start the 2 minute drill with 12 minutes left or midway through the 3rd 1/4

Well... your way cost multiple teams games in 2022 ....while giving the opportunity for the opponent to score.  My way, the Eagles defense was never on the field where the opponent had am opportunity to tie the game.  

I'll take a 9 point win all day if the math is there.  

Give me a 17 point lead into the 4th Q...and I have the ball.... I'm taking time off knowing they need 3 possessions to score... and the onside kick doesn't work anymore. 

Each set of downs is an opportunity to take 2 minutes off the clock. 

3 first downs and a punt... takes off 6 minutes.  Do that twice you kill 12 minutes. They run out of time. 

58 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie gave up his part once....to Chip...how did that work out and why would Lurie go back there?

Hiring a bad HC? Not work out well. Hired a good HC in Pedey …win the SB but then fired him for a bad HC in Siri. Which cost us winning the prefect setup in 2022. Schwartz and Pedey win a second time for us that season.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Didn't keep the pedal to the metal. You rest on a little lead you can get burned

Nah... the exact opposite..instead of running the clock down and kicking the game winning chip shot FG at the buzzer...they scored a TD and put the defense back on the field....game went to OT....Blankenship got his arm stepped on. 

The calm rational way...is better than the emotional ego trip when making decisions. 

Baltimore and other teams lost big leads doing it your way. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hiring a bad HC? Not work out well. Hired a good HC in Pedey …win the SB but then fired him for a bad HC in Siri. Which cost us winning the prefect setup in 2022. Schwartz and Pedey win a second time for us that season.

Lol... Doug didn't want to coach your boy.   Why is it difficult to understand?  That's not his style.  

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Well... your way cost multiple teams games in 2022 ....while giving the opportunity for the opponent to score.  My way, the Eagles defense was never on the field where the opponent had am opportunity to tie the game.  

I'll take a 9 point win all day if the math is there.  

Give me a 17 point lead into the 4th Q...and I have the ball.... I'm taking time off knowing they need 3 possessions to score... and the onside kick doesn't work anymore. 

Each set of downs is an opportunity to take 2 minutes off the clock. 

3 first downs and a punt... takes off 6 minutes.  Do that twice you kill 12 minutes. They run out of time. 

Should not take 4 downs to go 10 yards. If you want to grind away and SCORE thats one thing. Going 3 and out for failure to execute is another

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why I was SMH as to why Penny was NEVER used. I still can't figure that one out LOL

Another thing addressed this offseason with Shipley.