Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s the whole point of the grouping of plays that need a specific player that can create with the ball in his hands. These plays pretty much don’t require some fantastic route running abilities either. Just a get the ball in that players hands and let him make something happen.

You are creating SPACE with the PLAY call then as I keep saying it's on the PLAYER

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The play is designed to open up the YAC potential deliberately 

The play is designed to open up SPACE

Just now, joemas6 said:

Yes... again a different conversation.... and it's a great " couple of plays"   All good.   Nothing to do with the future of the TE position

Nope nothing to do with TE2 or the future of the TE position. Just specifically the next options to take over for Goedert on these YAC creation plays.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

The play is designed to open up SPACE

You’re either clearing out, picking or blocking for the YAC creation specialist.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nope nothing to do with TE2 or the future of the TE position. Just specifically the next options to take over for Goedert on these YAC creation plays.

No one "takes over" for Goedert LOL,it's a different PLAY

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You’re either clearing out, picking or blocking for the YAC creation specialist.

Drop the YAC stuff there are zero YAC "specialists" There are guys that can break tackles or make players miss that is on the player not the play call

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Drop the YAC stuff there are zero YAC "specialists" There are guys that can break tackles or make players miss that is on the player not the play call

It’s on both. It’s a group of plays designed specifically  for a YAC creation speciality player. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Drop the YAC stuff there are zero YAC "specialists" There are guys that can break tackles or make players miss that is on the player not the play call

You do that by creating SPACE,or you know of a mismatch you don't "create" YAC out of thin air. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s on both. It’s a group of plays designed specifically  for a YAC creation speciality player. 

Then I want 8 YAC specialists on my team besides the outside WR's. No labels, get me those 8 guys

Are you trying to throw a pass for two yards or behind the line of scrimmage just for the air yardage alone? No. It’s all about looking for the YAC.

Time to go. I'm out

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Are you trying to throw a pass for two yards or behind the line of scrimmage just for the air yardage alone? No. It’s all about looking for the YAC.

That's on the players not a YAC play call,it's simply a play call. Drop the YAC stuff(again) it's an executed PLAY I'm not going on with this any longer

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then I want 8 YAC specialists on my team besides the outside WR's

You want everybody to run all the way to the endzone after they catch the ball of course. But some do this by running a straight Go route outrunning everybody and catching it. Some run double moves towards the Post…and so on. But these YAC creation plays don’t rely on superior route running. They rely on a player that can make things happen with the ball in his hands on a short passing play. These plays pretty much neutralize any blitz or need for traditional blocking to create a QB pocket. Quick plays.

These plays are at playcalls. You aren’t really going through reads. Throwing for short two yards or behind the line of scrimmage. You aren’t just looking for a two yard completion…or minus two on a screen…your looking for creating that YAC.

This is Smith’s first job in my view. Which I’m not really labeling as Slot WR role. Whether he lines up there for them or not.

There is a whole set of rules for how to best set these plays up and how to follow the blocking optimally. To make sure a pick works but isn’t flagged. To take advantage of a hole from your blockers the best. Some guys just struggle with catch the dang ball first …before you try to make your moves 😉

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There is a whole set of rules for how to best set these plays up and how to follow the blocking optimally. To make sure a pick works but isn’t flagged. To take advantage of a hole from your blockers the best. Some guys just struggle with catch the dang ball first …before you try to make your moves 😉

You're still talking about this?  

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You're still talking about this?  

If it seems simple enough that Smith can manage it week one and add in a few simple routes running the slot and can show NFL durability….do we need to even roster Campbell?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If it seems simple enough that Smith can manage it week one and add in a few simple routes running the slot and can show NFL durability….do we need to even roster Campbell?

This is basically the point you believe when you say we added the upgraded slot weapon for this season, right?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If it seems simple enough that Smith can manage it week one and add in a few simple routes running the slot and can show NFL durability….do we need to even roster Campbell?

I don't work for the Eagles... I have a few vacations that I'm looking forward to, then the Friday night party for game 1.  Paris Campbell isn't really a concern of mine.  Those guys who get paid for those decisions can worry about him.  I absolutely do not have him as any lock to make the final roster. 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If it seems simple enough that Smith can manage it week one and add in a few simple routes running the slot and can show NFL durability….do we need to even roster Campbell?

Im Skeptical of his production and readiness his rookie season. Think we’ll use Parris. I’m looking for a need to add a WR.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is basically the point you believe when you say we added the upgraded slot weapon for this season, right?

I believe the type of player Smith is.... shows that the Eagles understood that they needed a player that has the quickness and the the ability to make people miss in their offense.  That's a plus for me... I think we have needed that since Agholor.  Campbell is another number... IDK that they keep him or even Covey or go elsewhere... point is, I like that they have the numbers now... on top of Barkley and Shipley... more flexibility in the offense.  

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I don't work for the Eagles... I have a few vacations that I'm looking forward to, then the Friday night party for game 1.  Paris Campbell isn't really a concern of mine.  Those guys who get paid for those decisions can worry about him.  I absolutely do not have him as any lock to make the final roster. 

You brought up your belief in we acquired upgrades in the Slot and your expectations of an elite O. This whole part to me is a big part to that equation.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You brought up your belief in we acquired upgrades in the Slot and your expectations of an elite O. This whole part to me is a big part to that equation.

You know AJ and Hurts are the biggest parts obviously. But this is concerning the big question mark area.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Im Skeptical of his production and readiness his rookie season. Think we’ll use Parris. I’m looking for a need to add a WR.

I think the plays will be different for all of them.   I'm not worried like you are... I see it all as upgrade from last year.  When you draft a guy.... that shows you are looking at the position or what he brings to it, as something you want long term.  That's the plus.  But again... I expect more running this year, and it's the 5th option behind 4 studs in the passing game.   I don't think it's as big of a role that you are looking at.  They will share that role... 2 TEs, some 2 RB sets... a few different WR 3s...etc. 

It's not the amount of touches I'm looking for... more so the production on those touches.