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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Moore worked with Herbert,who is a better passer with some injured WR's, so AJ and Smith should be a severe upgrade from what he was used to dealing with. Parker was supposed to be that big body in the slot,but when he abruptly quit we got Paris,then drafted Ainias and Johnny. I suspect Johnny hangs around due to his big body,Paris and Ainias will compete. Paris will start due to experience,but I think by years end it will be apparent Paris won't be back. So moving forward with 2 young kids who play different styles should be a boon for Hurts. Excited to see how that plays out.

The Eagles hired Siri over Moore.... so now if the Eagles have success with Moore working for Siri... then the same Eagles will give Moore the job over Siri?    That's the master plan? 

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The Eagles hired Siri over Moore.... so now if the Eagles have success with Moore working for Siri... then the same Eagles will give Moore the job over Siri?    That's the master plan? 

Not for me. If it ain't broke don't fix it 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The Eagles hired Siri over Moore.... so now if the Eagles have success with Moore working for Siri... then the same Eagles will give Moore the job over Siri?    That's the master plan? 

That's the same logic that says the Eagles should have fired Gannon going into the Superbowl so they could hire Fangio before he took the Dolphins job.  

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not for me. If it ain't broke don't fix it 

Forget you or me...or any of us... this is supposed to be Lurie's master plan?  

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I think Siri will let both him and Fangio pretty much have their way. I'm sure all 3 locked themselves in a room and decided the intricacies and didn't come out until they were all on the same page. At least that is my hope. I see no reason to upset whatever they decided on,now we need to see if it works

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3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Forget you or me...or any of us... this is supposed to be Lurie's master plan?  

Luries team,Luries choices,Lurie wins or loses based on those choices. I think he was totally embarrassed in TB. Not a good look for Lurie. everyone on the Eagles job is to make Lurie look good LOL.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think Siri will let both him and Fangio pretty much have their way. I'm sure all 3 locked themselves in a room and decided the intricacies and didn't come out until they were all on the same page. At least that is my hope. I see no reason to upset whatever they decided on,now we need to see if it works

Like Harbaugh in Baltimore

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Just now, joemas6 said:

Like Harbaugh in Baltimore

Yep,let the guys do their jobs,only intercede if something you don't like can be changed,then let the guys under you change it

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2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep,let the guys do their jobs,only intercede if something you don't like can be changed,then let the guys under you change it

For me personally,those 3 working as a team is the "genius". I don't care if someone calls Siri a yes man. If it works,it's genius. The players seem quiet,which IMO is a good sign. They seem to like all 3. Siri should have learned alot last year,but I don't see Moore or Fangio allowing a collapse

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My dad(GRHS) taught me that there is nothing wrong with failing if you learned what NOT to do in the future. I think Siri learned what not to do. It's important for me that he did so,so we shall see,but Fangio is experienced and Moore is no dummy either,so I'm looking to see a different team than we are used to. Hurts has a big learning curve ahead of him,so I am glad he is working hard because that will either make or break us. I am optimistic it's the former. Should be alot more fun to watch this team

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2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It's on record... Ham calls Mahomes.   With extreme confidence! 

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7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I'm judging Barkley better than either Sanders or Swift.   

For us now right?

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

When you are already making plans to get rid of the coach who has the best record in franchise history... before the season... without even seeing anything.... you don't think that's idiotic?  

Who always says to keep an open mind ... oh... but but ... he yelled in the tunnel at KC.... oh no... you can't have that... lol   

One immature example out of how many? I’m telling you it’s not me that already made the plans about our coaching situation. I believe our FO made these plans. They make sense too.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So.... Barkley wasn't an investment in the offense ... for a coach that wanted more running?  

Is that what Moore wanted? Haven’t heard him express that.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So VERY CLEARLY the Lurie/Howie combo  ( I love it when you try to give any negative innuendo that it's just Howie... no obvious agenda there)  ... very CLEARLY they look at the coach'es idea for coordinators.   Very VERY VERY clearly they like the CEO type coach, that manages it all, and they are interested in having good coordinators.

So then why do you think they want to bring in an offensive " genius"  who would be very hands on with the offense instead of a CEO tyoe head coach that oversees it all.. in a less hands on method?

Wouldn't the idea that they got their " puppet: in place...and all they need to do is make sure he has good coordinators?     Now you think they want the opposite... the ego of the offensive " genius"  who has tunnel vision???   Especially after Chip????  

They fired Doug because he wouldn't go outside with getting new assistants... that's CEO type reasons... they didn't fire him because he wasn't an offensive genius.

You just described everything why Siri has the job... but now you think it goes the opposite next year?    All of a sudden Lurie/Howie change their philosophy????  

Why do you say they like the CEO coach? Hired Pedey to be the O minded HC. Hired Chip being the O minded gimmick coach. Hired Sori the supposedly O minded HC. Not hiring sone very experienced CEO football guy. Hiring the green O minds.

O minded coaches are the hardest to obtain of quality. That’s why if you want a good one he needs to be made HC. 

Nothing says CEO more than emotional and immature.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If the Eagles make the playoffs this year, then Siri becomes the 6th coach in NFL history to make the playoffs the first 4 seasons of his career.

The last coach to do so was John Harbough ..... remind me again... offensive genius?   ...oh  defensive genius??     Remind me... does he call plays?    Hmm... wonder what his job is then?   I mean, we can't have that type of coach... obviously that style isn't successful?  

 

It’s become very clear every time Siri calls plays it’s a disaster. To begin is reign here he called plays…started out what…2-6. Made the playoffs despite him being so horrible. Dug our way out of the hole he created to make the playoffs. Then it’s being said he was calling plays last season plenty too…especially during the slide. Not good.

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

One immature example out of how many? I’m telling you it’s not me that already made the plans about our coaching situation. I believe our FO made these plans. They make sense too.

Didn’t Lurie just recent come out supporting Siri?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-owner-jeffrey-lurie-still-believes-in-nick-sirianni-thinks-coach-can-become-all-time-great-per-report/amp/

FO can have all the plans they want they not over ruling the Owner. 

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is that what Moore wanted? Haven’t heard him express that.

I haven’t heard Moore come out and say he wanted any player lol… for a OC that best years came with Zeke as the center piece of his O have to image he is quite happy to have Barkley. 

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s become very clear every time Siri calls plays it’s a disaster. To begin is reign here he called plays…started out what…2-6.

Why you acting like he called plays multiple times he only called plays at the start of his reign that’s it. Wasn’t good at it and handed the responsibility off realizing that is honestly a massive positive on Siri not a negative.

Just because your not a great play caller doesn’t mean your a bad offensive mind though 

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https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?sort=rushyds  click on the various columns.We are 7th or 8th on most until you click on passing yards,then we drop off the map to 16th and that's why Moore is here. The task at hand is to hold the ground game as it is(or better) and increase the passing yards. Lurie loves the pass.It's his team and that is what he wants to see. Whine all day in a corner with your binky about "what should have been done",but that is not going to change until Lurie wants to change it. I'm excited to see this team pass more while also beating teams up on the ground. I don't give a crap about last years play calls. I wasn't thrilled with them TBH,yet we won 11 games on tush pushes and ball hogging at the GL. The play calling can't be worse than last year,and now with upgrades at many skill spots and an OC who isn't scared(but maybe the QB is) of putting the ball in the air because he won't be viewed as "carrying the team" is what we need to see. Additions on defense should give the O more shots to score. If we won 11 last year with all our "issues" winning 1 more game than last should not present a problem. Easy. Keep or improve your ground attack, increase your air attack with threats anywhere on the field. Teach your QB how to make faster reads and get the ball away while having people on defense that can get the ball back for you. Not real hard to do with the moves we made and new coaches to deliver those goals. It's what Lurie wanted and now it's everyones job to make Lurie smile(not me,not you) and that is exactly what we are going to do. 12-5, division title and the SB goes through Philly....... book it. Prediction? You want my prediction?  PAIN. Let the whiners whine in the parking lot until they fog up the windows. Fly Eagles Fly

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