Just now, joemas6 said:

Great change of subject as usual...when the discussion is Gainwell....you lost that...so spin and change per usual.   Planet Ham

Is he not a RB? Last I checked he was.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Great change of subject as usual...when the discussion is Gainwell....you lost that...so spin and change per usual.   Planet Ham

This was the whole point I brought up in any challenge to Gainwell…is if we actually only kept three RBs instead of four. That would we want to have a backup that brought different qualities than the other? A pass catcher and a pure rusher. Not rocket science. Plenty of teams have done it. Just pointed out how that SB winning team did exactly that. But it’s been around the NFL for decades…this idea of roster management.

You know for those of us that think the guy that got 70 carries in Helaire wasn’t behind the guy that got 21 in McKinnon.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You know for those of us that think the guy that got 70 carries in Helaire wasn’t behind the guy that got 21 in McKinnon.

But McKinnon was the receiving back more. When they needed the rushing back they brought out Helaire. Just Bronze Standard Coaching roster management and utilization that’s won the last two SB that way.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was ALONE in stating the Cards could beat us last season also….ALONE

You are ALONE with Gainwell. 

You are doing your usual change the subject. 

The difference between you and the rest of the world is humility.   Howie, Siri, Hurts....all have the humility to admit they made mistakes last year,  that's why this year is going to be a good year ( barring injuries)

You don't understand that.  It's why you are alone in Gainwell or the idea of Lurie's master plan being to fire Siri after a successful season.  

It's why you can't admit Sanders is nothing special. 

It's why you think anyone remembers anything you said about Kyle Pitts.  You lack humility.   

Instead of discussing the team like a normal person...every post has to be about how you predicted this or that or a way to promote your pro Hurts, Reddick or any one of your boys...or anti Howie, Siri ...etc.  

The Philadelphia Eagles are not about you!  You have zero impact om the team! 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But McKinnon was the receiving back more. When they needed the rushing back they brought out Helaire. Just Bronze Standard Coaching roster management and utilization that’s won the last two SB that way.

But I’m ALONE in thinking this way

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Says the guy who has zero or very minimum knowledge of his competition. Very obvious to you being you didn’t know any of the other RBs. So of course you didn’t question anything. You have no idea anything hardly about these other RBs.

The competition was for RB 4.  Gainwell was always RB2.

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

McKinnon had 21 carries last year compared to Edwards-Helairs 70

Who had the snaps?  That's your #2 RB.   I've said a million times...we needed a RB 3 to carry the ball ... that was the issue.  You got nothing from those guys.  We could have used CEH as RB 3 last year to get some carries.  Still would have had Gainwell as #2. Why would Gainwell be #2....same as McKinnon... snaps and the passing game roles. 

Yeah if you believed your statements about me you would think I didn’t come straight out and say I thought Gainwell earned the second string RB job this year. Which I very clearly did do.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The competition was for RB 4.  Gainwell was always RB2.

My conversation otherwise was about IF there was no RB4, right?

I have no issue Shipley getting more carries or even touches than Gainwell... as the season goes on.  Gainwell will get more snaps though.  

We run 70 plays... Gainwell getting 4 carries  for 18 or 22 yards isn't going impact much.   But getting anything from RB 3 is something we didn't get last year.

You obsess over Penny and Shermon...  but  never bring up how Scott was a waste, while being the highest paid RB on the roster.  Penny and Shermon had no cap impact.  Scott's wasted cap space is gone forever. 

Hey but Scott is such an interesting story... lol.   F#$k the story... do something on the field as the highest paid at your position!

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who had the snaps?  That's your #2 RB.   I've said a million times...we needed a RB 3 to carry the ball ... that was the issue.  You got nothing from those guys.  We could have used CEH as RB 3 last year to get some carries.  Still would have had Gainwell as #2. Why would Gainwell be #2....same as McKinnon... snaps and the passing game roles. 

I don’t keep track of snap counts with other teams backups. Edwards Helaire was the starter until Pacheco unseated him. Then had 70 carries compared to 21 of McKinnon. But this all goes exactly into what I was discussing. If we only kept three RBs wouldn’t we want a more complimentary other RB that could be a physical more pure rusher…like Milton…he’s not even the only one we had here that could perform that role. Shipley is a good player…you’ll see. I know you think it’s absolutely impossible he could unseat the All World Gainwell. But Gainwell hasn’t really done very much at all his first three seasons. Gainwell hasn’t had some fantastic career where he can’t be replaced. He had to step up big time this offseason. Which he did. Great job. Well most likely keep 4 RBs anyway…not factoring in my whole discussion of keeping only three. 

Did I come out after the last practice where Gainwell had his best ever practice and declare he earned the second string job?

Boston Scott....such a great story.  

The highest paid RB on the team,  giving zero!    bUt sErMon and pENny were the problem!

Take emotion out of things and your mind will work clearer.   

 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t keep track of snap counts with other teams backups. Edwards Helaire was the starter until Pacheco unseated him. Then had 70 carries compared to 21 of McKinnon. But this all goes exactly into what I was discussing. If we only kept three RBs wouldn’t we want a more complimentary other RB that could be a physical more pure rusher…like Milton…he’s not even the only one we had here that could perform that role. Shipley is a good player…you’ll see. I know you think it’s absolutely impossible he could unseat the All World Gainwell. But Gainwell hasn’t really done very much at all his first three seasons. Gainwell hasn’t had some fantastic career where he can’t be replaced. He had to step up big time this offseason. Which he did. Great job. Well most likely keep 4 RBs anyway…not factoring in my whole discussion of keeping only three. 

Wouldn't you judge 1st, 2nd and 3rd string for anything... by how much each play?  

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I have no issue Shipley getting more carries or even touches than Gainwell... as the season goes on.  Gainwell will get more snaps though.  

We run 70 plays... Gainwell getting 4 carries  for 18 or 22 yards isn't going impact much.   But getting anything from RB 3 is something we didn't get last year.

You obsess over Penny and Shermon...  but  never bring up how Scott was a waste, while being the highest paid RB on the roster.  Penny and Shermon had no cap impact.  Scott's wasted cap space is gone forever. 

Hey but Scott is such an interesting story... lol.   F#$k the story... do something on the field as the highest paid at your position!

Why were Sermon and Penny kept you think? Could it possibly be because they offered a different demention than the number two and three RBs potentially? Could it be for their potential to add a pure physical rushing element? Could it be exactly over what I stated…except my discussion was what if we only keep three RB instead of 4. Is that such an impossible 53 man roster choice to you?

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Boston Scott....such a great story.  

The highest paid RB on the team,  giving zero!    bUt sErMon and pENny were the problem!

Take emotion out of things and your mind will work clearer.   

 

Boston Scott was better than Gainwell. Better at returns also. But was an underdog that wasn’t coveted by anybody. Barely even brought him back to give him a chance under Siri. Not like how Siri hand picked Gainwell his first draft. Scott had to earn a roster spot,

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why were Sermon and Penny kept you think? Could it possibly be because they offered a different demention than the number two and three RBs potentially? Could it be for their potential to add a pure physical rushing element? Could it be exactly over what I stated…except my discussion was what if we only keep three RB instead of 4. Is that such an impossible 53 man roster choice to you?

Why was Boston Scott the highest paid RB on the team?

What impacts the future of this team... who the 4th RB making minimum wage... not creating any more cap impact....  or the guy who gave the same zero but whose cap hit you can never recover?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Boston Scott was better than Gainwell. Better at returns also. But was an underdog that wasn’t coveted by anybody. Barely even brought him back to give him a chance under Siri. Not like how Siri hand picked Gainwell his first draft. Scott had to earn a roster spot,

Boston Scott blows!  He gave zero!  Waste of cap space they won't get back!

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Boston Scott....such a great story.  

The highest paid RB on the team,  giving zero!    bUt sErMon and pENny were the problem!

Take emotion out of things and your mind will work clearer.   

 

You gotta get opportunity. Seems like every time Scott got opportunity he performed well. He wasn’t ever just forced in like Gainwell was from the start. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You gotta get opportunity. Seems like every time Scott got opportunity he performed well. He wasn’t ever just forced in like Gainwell was from the start. 

Does it seem that way really?  

Or... because you hate a team from New York that hasn't been relevant for over a decade... and he gets garbage stats vs them ...that for you it seems that way.  Go check again.

Last week of the season in 2019 with Wentz we turned to Boston Scott with our chance of making the playoffs on the line. He responded by scoring three TDs.

The worst move in the RB room of he last 2 years was paying Scott last year.  Simply because " it's a great story" and he got garbage stats vs the Giants.  

That's emotional impact.   With Gainwell nobody " likes " him.  No great story.  He just does the solid job as a backup. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Last week of the season in 2019 with Wentz we turned to Boston Scott with our chance of making the playoffs on the line. He responded by scoring three TDs.

Just responded.... vs that stud Giants team.... so special ... 5 years ago! Wow.  Give him the money!

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

The different rules now...allow you to put your draft picks on the roster...then you put guys like Ross or Campbell on the PS because if they are claimed,  they need to go on a roster.   Teams aren't looking to take on veteran " projects " and use a roster spot for them.   It's why you might see Avonte Maddox on PS .  

Different mindset now.  I think the rookie WRs...and Milton or whoever wins this elite battle of #4 RB..are put on the 53.... but guys who end up starting on the PS...will actually play in the game.

Agreed,you need to keep the future guys in play. Unless they really stink. I hope ASmith has a good enough game he doesn't get cut altogether. he has the goods he is just coming along slower than I had hoped. Could be him and a vet on the PS. IDK that we are ready to give up Covey. He is a jack of all trades like Gainwell I like Wilson more than Ngata,so I think Ngata goes. Still battles to be fought Saturday