Just now, jojodancer said:

All I'm saying this whole team is a bunch of nothing right now across the board. Leaky faucets everywhere. QB is one position out of 22 positions. They are poor in several places. Acknowledge that. This is not some juggernaut.

Winning = "All he does is win"

Losing = "QB is one position out of 22 positions"

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

You’re missing the entire point. The approach is flawed. That’s either the fault of the owner, GM, and/or HC. A sound strategy would make consideration for intelligent exceptions overriding the pure numbers play when the situation clearly calls for it. I really don’t care where the fault lies but I would like it fixed.

And you’re missing the point, they’re not gonna change who they are. Philosophically ans organization believes that analytics as a tool and using it gives them the best opportunity to win the game. So if the analytics tell him to go for it cause it gives him a higher percentage chance to win the game, they’re gonna use it and go for it. They’re not changing it because guys are hurt. They’ve shown that with Doug. They’ve shown that with Nick. So you wanting it to be fixed, it’s not gonna be fixed because they don’t want to fix it because they don’t think it’s broken.

Nick has to go. Any other coach wins the last two games.

All injured guys expected to be back next week vs Panthers. So if it's still ugly Sunday then it's gonna get really bad around here

Just now, DrPhilly said:

Huh? The D made play after play today including stopping the Jags on a 3 and out under 2 mins to setup Hurts to drive for what looked like the game winning fg.

Theynwere good. But what happened when the chips were on the line? THAT can not be ignored. Gave up a late TD. I thought that counts too. This team will lean on the defense right now. We all know that. Even when everyone was here and healthy. They have incomplete games currently.

9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Pressured over half his drop backs, throwing to a bunch of backups. And again the other team adjusted at halftime and we're left searching for answers.

The next time Nick actually out coaches someone will be the first

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Winning = "All he does is win"

Losing = "QB is one position out of 22 positions"

Winning = it’s the talent around him

Losing = Hurts is terrible and it’s all his fault

6 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Steele was in on ST’s.

They saw Pierce dropping passes, running in mud and thought we're good there.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

All injured guys expected to be back next week vs Panthers. So if it's still ugly Sunday then it's gonna get really bad around here

Can we stash Landon on IR or something?

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

And you’re missing the point, they’re not gonna change who they are. Philosophically ans organization believes that analytics as a tool and using it gives them the best opportunity to win the game. So if the analytics tell him to go for it cause it gives him a higher percentage chance to win the game, they’re gonna use it and go for it. They’re not changing it because guys are hurt. They’ve shown that with Doug. They’ve shown that with Nick. So you wanting it to be fixed, it’s not gonna be fixed because they don’t want to fix it because I don’t think it’s broken.

That’s BS. One thing the Lurie/Howie group have always excelled at is making changes when they needed to be made. This change is just a tweak. They can certainly look to get better.

In any case, my point remains. The strategy is flawed and an improvement is necessary.

21 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

I'd have no way to find it but I'm certain it happened. It was in response to a question of whether he was happy with the plays being called. He may have just been being a good soldier but he definitely said it.

Well as long as you're certain.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Winning = "All he does is win"

Losing = "QB is one position out of 22 positions"

Does Mahomes win with backups at almost every position on OL and a middling defense? No one does. This team has alot of holes. Everywhere. Defense is paid like it'a top billing. Haven't seen them play a complete game yet.

20 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He won a SB. Good OL and good WRs and a good D or not he did. Something McNabb never did even when he got weapons. Something Vick never did or Kolob or Wentz even if he got them a record that set them up. I've said a lot against him since he got here and I still don't love him but we are spoiled. We are going to miss him when he is gone flaws and all. The chances of landing a Mahomes or Stafford are low. More likely you end up with Jackson or Burrow who have massive talent and never win.

Should we give Nick Foles a contract then?

54 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I understand, but they still had the lead at the end

That's my whole point. That's a stupid argument and absolve the offense from being completely inept for an entire half of football.

If the offense leaves the field with a 6-3 lead after turning the ball over 6 times, and the defense gives up the game winning TD are you just going to say "well they had the lead at the end"? At what point do you hold them accountable for providing close to nothing

Just now, DrPhilly said:

That’s BS. One thing the Lurie/Howie group have always excelled at is making changes when they needed to be made. This change is just a tweak. They can certainly look to get better.

In any case, my point remains. The strategy is flawed and an improvement is necessary.

they did the same thing under Doug that they are with sirianni. You can not want to believe it, but that’s been the approach for a decade now.

Some of you guys are gonna absolutely hate when Julian takes over the organization. Cause he’s even more analytically driven.

4 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Theynwere good. But what happened when the chips were on the line? THAT can not be ignored. Gave up a late TD. I thought that counts too. This team will lean on the defense right now. We all know that. Even when everyone was here and healthy. They have incomplete games currently.

No D gets every stop. They were excellent today overall.

Bears are getting whooped by the pack like they did to us

1 minute ago, jojodancer said:

Does Mahomes win with backups at almost every position on OL and a middling defense? No one does. This team has alot of holes. Everywhere. Defense is paid like it'a top billing. Haven't seen them play a complete game yet.

Offense is paid 2:1 in comparison to the defense….

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Should we give Nick Foles a contract then?

We should’ve after he won that SB.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

they did the same thing under Doug that they are with sirianni. You can not want to believe it, but that’s been the approach for a decade now.

They had no WRs for almost 6 years under Reid before they fixed that. They went forever before getting some decent LBs before they fixed that. They can fix this issue as well.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Should we give Nick Foles a contract then?

Sure. Buy one of these and get it up to 88 mph.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

No D gets every stop. They were excellent today overall.

Okay they were excellent. But they lost a 14-10 lead late in game. And then I blame Special Teams and Sirianni with how this all ended. Mainly Sirriani. There's blame to go around everywhere here. Offense came through when it mattered. So today under the circumstances performed admirably against a top AFC team. And that would have been the narrative after the game if not for botched ending. I'd understand if Hurts threw a pick in the end or blew it. Not the case. Did his part today.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

They had no WRs for almost 6 years under Reid before they fixed that. They went forever before getting some decent LBs before they fixed that. They can fix this issue as well.

Again, you think they see it as an issue. THEY DONT. They’ve had a ton of success with it over the last decade using it that way. So they don’t probably view it as an issue like you do.

1 minute ago, devpool said:

That's my whole point. That's a stupid argument and absolve the offense from being completely inept for an entire half of football.

If the offense leaves the field with a 6-3 lead after turning the ball over 6 times, and the defense gives up the game winning TD are you just going to say "well they had the lead at the end"? At what point do you hold them accountable for providing close to nothing

That's ridiculous. No one is absolving the offense. Should could woulda, but what did happen is that crap offense got them the lead with 8 seconds left. They got the ball with 1:36 and 1 timeout. They did their job when it needed to be done.