Just now, downundermike said:

He will.  One read and run QB's do not work in the NFL, and he is not near as skilled as Lamar Jackson.

I think he's as good a passer as Jackson? But he's not the athlete and runner that Jackson is. That's an issue. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think he's as good a passer as Jackson? But he's not the athlete and runner that Jackson is. That's an issue. 

And Jackson will only ever be good enough to win a wild card game, and nothing more.

Remember, the next QB like that to win a Super Bowl will be the first.

Just now, downundermike said:

And Jackson will only ever be good enough to win a wild card game, and nothing more.

Remember, the next QB like that to win a Super Bowl will be the first.

Don't disagree there bud. 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Let's not forget, if Hurts stinks then this team very likely drafts high and can potentially pick a QB next year. 

Oh it’s not forgotten by me. I’d be more than happy with that too. Someone mentioned that 2022 won’t have a great quarterback class. People said that about the year after Wentz was drafted too and that draft arguably has two of the best guys. No one knew Burrow would have been as good as he was in college. He kind of came out of nowhere. There’s always going to be another quarterback. Personally I think the Eagles need to focus more on building a strong roster than spending too many resources on one quarterback. 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

He will.  One read and run QB's do not work in the NFL, and he is not near as skilled as Lamar Jackson.

We will see. If he does stink it up then they move on. If he doesn’t stink it up, and gets better they have two first in 2020 plus a lot of cap space to rebuild the roster. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-remain-undecided-qb-2021-after-carson-wentz-trade

"Just because Carson Wentz is gone doesn't mean the job belongs to Jalen Hurts. A source familiar with the Eagles' thinking said all options are open when it comes to replacing Wentz. The Eagles could draft a quarterback at No. 6 or move up in the first round."

IF Hurts is given the keys to the car, full support. Hope he wins the MVP and ten SBs. 

 

I really hope they do not waste the 6th overall on a QB. Grab Chase - roll with Hurts and someone else next year and lets see what happens.

If they suck, hope Wentz plays 75% of the snaps and go get a QB next year.

4 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I really hope they do not waste the 6th overall on a QB. Grab Chase - roll with Hurts and someone else next year and lets see what happens.

If they suck, hope Wentz plays 75% of the snaps and go get a QB next year.

Agreed although I would take the best OL at 6. Rebuild should start with the lines, IMO.

18 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Agreed although I would take the best OL at 6. Rebuild should start with the lines, IMO.

Most mocks I’ve seen had the best offensive lineman gone by the third pick in the draft. 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I feel like drafting a quarterback right now would just create the same mess the Eagles just left. Give it at least a year. Whoever they bring in will have the same problems to deal with and likely a long year of getting hit again and again. Let’s see what Hurts is made of, and use the pick to draft some starter level talent. Not just the first either. They better not waste the second on another "potential player” or a friggin backup again. 

There are huge problems with that mindset.

Hurts does not look like a franchise QB, but they should give him a chance BUT if he doesn't work out. The team will be left scrambling for a QB in next year's draft which looks to be weak at the position. This year's QB class is pretty strong at the top and the team has the opportunity to get one of them. If they wait, they will most likely have to trade up to "settle" and reach for someone next year in a weak QB class. That's going to set the entire team back another 3-5 years.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Let's not forget, if Hurts stinks then this team very likely drafts high and can potentially pick a QB next year. 

Too bad next year's QBs won't be at the level of this year's class.

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Oh it’s not forgotten by me. I’d be more than happy with that too. Someone mentioned that 2022 won’t have a great quarterback class. People said that about the year after Wentz was drafted too and that draft arguably has two of the best guys. No one knew Burrow would have been as good as he was in college. He kind of came out of nowhere. There’s always going to be another quarterback. Personally I think the Eagles need to focus more on building a strong roster than spending too many resources on one quarterback. 

You mean like how 2016's QB class turned out?

Now look at them and their teams.

Do you think eagles might bring in Tyrod Taylor to compete? 

1 minute ago, kentwo said:

There are huge problems with that mindset.

Hurts does not look like a franchise QB, but they should give him a chance BUT if he doesn't work out. The team will be left scrambling for a QB in next year's draft which looks to be weak at the position. This year's QB class is pretty strong at the top and the team has the opportunity to get one of them. If they wait, they will most likely have to trade up to "settle" and reach for someone next year in a weak QB class. That's going to set the entire team back another 3-5 years.

Too bad next year's QBs won't be at the level of this year's class.

Like I mentioned before they said the same stuff after Wentz was drafted, and the two guys drafted after him that following year are arguably both top 5. Mariota and Winston were supposed to be great, but they’re barely in the league now. We heard about how great Tua was supposed to be before he even went to college and he looks lost in the pros. Nobody expected anything from Joe Borrow and he worked himself into being the first overall pick. Justin Herbert was very good as a rookie too. That wasn’t supposed to be a good class. We have also saw supposed great quarterback classes that turned out to be duds too. McNabb’s draft class stands out as a major dud. There’s always going to be quarterbacks, and this season we saw three quarterbacks move to different teams so far as well. If the Eagles think they’re just the right quarterback away from being contenders by 2022 (not likely just yet) what stops them from making a move for a quarterback? Just saying there are other options available to them.

9 minutes ago, kentwo said:

You mean like how 2016's QB class turned out?

Now look at them and their teams.

All the more reason not to get into a frenzy over trying to get a quarterback. We spent years complaining about the talent around Wentz, but his contract made it even harder to get more talent around Wentz. Ultimately Wentz and Goff  were traded and the Rams and Eagles desperately moved up to get them. 

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Most mocks I’ve seen had the best offensive lineman gone by the third pick in the draft. 

Some of the more recent ones I've seen have Sewell dropping as teams reach for QBs and shiny objects. If he is there at 6 it would be a huge blunder to take one of the WRs, IMO. I would venture to say that the running game gets better behind Mailata and Sewell on the left side and Brooks and Johnson on the right side. Hoping that Kelce doesnt' retire. Hurts wouldn't have to be all that great to construct a ball control offense with this line. If it goes this way, I'd also spend a 2 or 3 on a RB. Doesn't help the D talent wise but a lot of 6-8 min drives would.

18 minutes ago, XoqTionR said:

Do you think eagles might bring in Tyrod Taylor to compete? 

I think it’s along the line of a vet like that. Someone who could push him some, but really isn’t much of a threat. If he fully implodes or gets injured, Taylor can at least come in and play som competent quarterback for the team. 

7 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Some of the more recent ones I've seen have Sewell dropping as teams reach for QBs and shiny objects. If he is there at 6 it would be a huge blunder to take one of the WRs, IMO. I would venture to say that the running game gets better behind Mailata and Sewell on the left side and Brooks and Johnson on the right side. Hoping that Kelce doesnt' retire. Hurts wouldn't have to be all that great to construct a ball control offense with this line. If it goes this way, I'd also spend a 2 or 3 on a RB. Doesn't help the D talent wise but a lot of 6-8 min drives would.

We will see. I’m curious to see what they do with Andre Dillard. I have major doubts about him, but he was their starter before he got hurt. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

We will see. I’m curious to see what they do with Andre Dillard. I have major doubts about him, but he was their starter before he got hurt. 

If I were GM, I'd trade him to Cincy so that they can draft what they always want....speeeeeeeed at WR. Get what you can for him but knock them out of the market for a LT. 

13 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Like I mentioned before they said the same stuff after Wentz was drafted, and the two guys drafted after him that following year are arguably both top 5. Mariota and Winston were supposed to be great, but they’re barely in the league now. We heard about how great Tua was supposed to be before he even went to college and he looks lost in the pros. Nobody expected anything from Joe Borrow and he worked himself into being the first overall pick. Justin Herbert was very good as a rookie too. That wasn’t supposed to be a good class. We have also saw supposed great quarterback classes that turned out to be duds too. McNabb’s draft class stands out as a major dud. There’s always going to be quarterbacks, and this season we saw three quarterbacks move to different teams so far as well. If the Eagles think they’re just the right quarterback away from being contenders by 2022 (not likely just yet) what stops them from making a move for a quarterback? Just saying there are other options available to them.

 

The problem is that getting a franchise QB is key and while there will be those that do not work out, it is crucial to get one. Which is why the QB market is so crazy.

The key issue here is if they see the guy they like this year, it could be now or never. Next year, there might be good QBs, but at least on paper none of them have yet produced, they're mostly based on potential. Even if Hurts sucks, the team may not be drafting this high again due to a still relatively weak NFC East (although the Cowboys should run away with the division if everyone is healthy and the WFT is a QB away from being really good.) So if they see a guy they like this year, they should get him rather than run the risk of begging for scraps next year or hoping that one of the college QBs pan out.

17 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I think it’s along the line of a vet like that. Someone who could push him some, but really isn’t much of a threat. If he fully implodes or gets injured, Taylor can at least come in and play som competent quarterback for the team. 

Jacoby Brissett would be the guy to get. Still fairly young, knows the offense, has shown flashes of good ball, can win you some games and isn't starter material.

No brainer, IMO.

Yeah, I'm not about the whole let's wait till next year to draft a QB thing. We could end up with a mid rd pick, the QB class that is speculated to be terrible might actually turn out to be terrible.

At this point, do a full evaluation of the top QBs in this draft, if one is deemed franchise caliber, draft him at 6 or higher.

6 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Jacoby Brissett would be the guy to get. Still fairly young, knows the offense, has shown flashes of good ball, can win you some games and isn't starter material.

No brainer, IMO.

 

6 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Jacoby Brissett would be the guy to get. Still fairly young, knows the offense, has shown flashes of good ball, can win you some games and isn't starter material.

No brainer, IMO.

Isn’t he still under contract with the Colts?

5 hours ago, nipples said:

Eh, I think it makes sense to draft a QB somewhere in the mid rounds. Sudfeld isn’t a good enough backup, (and is a free agent I think?). 

I’d keep an eye on Trask from Florida. Obviously Brian Johnson has a good relationship with him. 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Most mocks I’ve seen had the best offensive lineman gone by the third pick in the draft. 

Sewell will never make it past Cincy at worst. If he does he’s a no brainer. You trade Lane and go young with Sewell Dillard Mailata Driscoll. 

1 hour ago, XoqTionR said:

Do you think eagles might bring in Tyrod Taylor to compete? 

I think it would be a good move. See if our new coaching staff can build an offense to fit two qbs with similar skill sets.