1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Hurts is a franchise QB?

Yes. It's obvious.

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Fair point, but with the health of this OL, I wouldn't say that Dickerson 100% won't be see the field.  I'd say more like 50%.

Just now, Infam said:

Yes. It's obvious.

Yeah, obvious.  Lot's of 2nd round pick QB's are labeled franchise QB's before they even prove they can throw the football.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Yeah, obvious.  Lot's of 2nd round pick QB's are labeled franchise QB's before they even prove they can throw the football.

Not by me.

I am convinced, was already pretty sure after college - but after watching his four games it's obvious.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Fair point, but with the health of this OL, I wouldn't say that Dickerson 100% won't be see the field.  I'd say more like 50%.

He said 100% they won't see the field to start the season. Have to read the fine print. 

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

There's a fine line there.  Drafting players that will definitely see the field suggest that you are biasing towards need and not necessarily your board.

 

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Dillard started in week 6 and was going to be the week 1 starter the following year. JJAW started in week 3 and would have started if he wasn't terrible. Hurts started in week 14 and is the starter.

Dickerson will play in 2021 and will be the starting LG/C/RG in 2022.

Just now, Infam said:

Not by me.

I am convinced, was already pretty sure after college - but after watching his four games I just know.

The 4 games were objectively unimpressive, both in terms of arm strength and decision making ..... not sure what you thought you saw 

Just now, RLC said:

Dickerson will play in 2021 and will be the starting LG/C/RG in 2022.

Are you sure about that? He's recovering from a torn acl...

4 minutes ago, Infam said:

Yes. It's obvious.

No. No it's really not.

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

He said 100% they won't see the field to start the season. Have to read the fine print. 

It's only 100% if Dickerson himself isn't healthy.  I wouldn't put any money our starting 5 OL making it out of training camp.  Kelce is a rock, but is 33.  Mailata has constantly dealt with back problems and has been unable to stay healthy.  Dillard is coming off IR.  Brooks and Lane will be out of the lineup sooner rather than later.

We could easily be into the backups for week 1.  

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Dillard started in week 6 and was going to be the week 1 starter the following year. JJAW started in week 3 and would have started if he wasn't terrible. Hurts started in week 14 and is the starter.

Dickerson will play in 2021 and will be the starting LG/C/RG in 2022.

Again you guys need to read the fine print. Hes not saying they won't/didn't start at some point. he said they wont/didn't see the field at the start of the season. He gave himself some wiggle room there.  

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

There's a fine line there.  Drafting players that will definitely see the field suggest that you are biasing towards need and not necessarily your board.

 

To me, the Joe Douglas tenure was a lot of swinging for singles in the draft.  Guys who were unlikely to bust, but were supporting cast with no Pro Bowl candidates as the rule.

I don't mind taking a few big swings on guys like DeVonta Smith and Dickerson.

The Dickerson pick doesn’t upset me cause he went in the 2nd. Optimistic with it. Worse things have been routinely done around here.

If there were a prop bet of Dickerson playing more offensive snaps next year than Dillard or Lane Johnson, I'd be interested in the odds.

3 hours ago, The guy in France said:

IMO Humphrey was clearly a better C than Dickerson but you like Dickerson I guess hopefully not because you trust their judgement as the be all end all, obviously that’s questionable ... at the least. So you know where I’m coming from I’m positive on Hurts that he can improve, will improve and with a very good chance to be our QB for a while. I think Howie has bigger fish to fry and he needs to live or die by his drafts, wrong pick at 37 which should be a lot more sure thing than Dickerson 

Humphrey had issues with off target shotgun snaps at OU. Wonder if they didn’t consult Hurts about that. Dickerson is a better C and a much better G than Humphrey, especially how the Eagles like to use a C.  The double ACLs concern me a bit. If healthy going forward, and that is a huge IF, he was the BPA.  

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

The 4 games were objectively unimpressive, both in terms of arm strength and decision making ..... not sure what you thought you saw 

I've seen good runs, good decisions and a good arm..

People are just 100% about the end result and don't care if the OL was hurt as f.. he had no offseason and the team was in shambles.

It's a joke. Everyone who really looks at his performance honestly has to see he is our future franchise. There isn't even a hint of doubt in my mind.

7 minutes ago, Infam said:

Yes. It's obvious.

So much so that most of the fanbase and coaching staff feel otherwise. Go look up Tebow's first four starts and compare them with Hurts if you're so convinced.

Just now, BigEFly said:

Humphrey had issues with off target shotgun snaps at OU. Wonder if they didn’t consult Hurts about that. Dickerson is a better C and a much better G than Humphrey, especially how the Eagles like to use a C.  The double ACLs concern me a bit. If healthy going forward, and that is a huge IF, he was the BPA.  

More like BPA'IH.

Best Player Available, if Healthy

Is today the day Ertz is finally traded?

 

Just now, Infam said:

I've seen good runs, good decisions and a good arm..

People are just 100% about the end result and don't care if the OL was hurt as f.. he had no offseason and the team was in shambles.

It's a joke. Everyone who really looks at his performance honestly has to see he is our future franchise. There isn't even a hint of doubt in my mind.

You led with good runs.  Says it all.  Maybe he can be our franchise RB.  That's mostly what he was for those 4 games.

Just now, Swoop said:

So much so that most of the fanbase and coaching staff feel otherwise. Go look up Tebow's first four starts and compare them with Hurts if you're so convinced.

I don't give a rats ass about the talent evaluation of you guys though! 😁

I am telling you all! You're all blind if you don't see it!!!! 

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

Dickerson will play in 2021 and will be the starting LG/C/RG in 2022.

 

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Are you sure about that? He's recovering from a torn acl...

And why would we bench Seumalo, Kelce or Brooks

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And why would we bench Seumalo, Kelce or Brooks

Kelce or Brooks only if injured.. But Seumalo was a weak link at LG most of the time.

Ok, he looked decent some of the time. But if I had to name one guy that looked not up to it I would name Seumalo over Mailata, really.

 

But let's get real: Seumalo as starting center really sucked!

1 minute ago, Infam said:

I've seen good runs, good decisions and a good arm..

People are just 100% about the end result and don't care if the OL was hurt as f.. he had no offseason and the team was in shambles.

It's a joke. Everyone who really looks at his performance honestly has to see he is our future franchise. There isn't even a hint of doubt in my mind.

Optimism is a good thing, and what's best for the franchise right now would be for Hurts to ball out this season so the 3 first round picks next year can be spent adding blue-chip positional players ..... but there were a lot of late throws to the middle of the field -- especially downfield, too many runs, and a lot of fumbles.  

Hopefully Hurts and Smith form a dynamic duo