You know I was thinking about andy leaving and doug leaving. When andy left the year before he put juan as dc. Andy is a smart guy. He knew what would happen. I think this was a middle finger to Jeff and howie before he left. I think doug did the same thing by not hiring a offensive coordinator last year if rumors are to be believed that they made him fire Mike grogh (sp)

30 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

If you check out twitter search you can see a lot of people wanting Doug for a HC or OC. Seeing Chargers, Jets, and Hawks being mentioned a lot

 

You'd think they never saw our games

Same happened when Andy was fired. I’d say that worked out pretty well for KC. 

4 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Same happened when Andy was fired. I’d say that worked out pretty well for KC. 

True. Doug could just need a change of scenery. Though it's probably just an improvement for him to get away from Howie

His play calling was atrocious this season though. Plus it turns out that horrible coaching staff that was reported was likely accurate

9 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Same happened when Andy was fired. I’d say that worked out pretty well for KC. 

Yeah, that's the league we're in. Rick Kotite and Ray Rhodes, and even Chip Kelly got 2nd chances. Doug was the HC for a Super Bowl winner. If not this season, he'll be a HC again within the next year or 2.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

But man there always seems to be all this gossip and dysfunction around this team.

Isn't that usually a reflection of the leadership?         That kind of garbage generally starts at the top, and this organization to me has reeked of dysfunction since Lurie sabotaged Kelly and allowed him to dig his own grave.            The two constants always seem to be Lurie and his boy Roseman.

The more time passes, the more it blows my mind that we somehow actually got a Super Bowl out of this mess.

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I agree. I tend to blindly believe very little of what's reported.

I tend to believe none of it with my eyes wide open.          Untrue till proven true.

53 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

If you check out twitter search you can see a lot of people wanting Doug for a HC or OC. Seeing Chargers, Jets, and Hawks being mentioned a lot

 

You'd think they never saw our games

Fans from other towns, especially in different divisions or conference, only probably saw the Eagles in big games.         They remember big balls Doug and 'Philly Philly', and those are indelible images if you don't live with the team week to week and have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude like rabid local fans.

33 minutes ago, jblah said:

You know I was thinking about andy leaving and doug leaving. When andy left the year before he put juan as dc. Andy is a smart guy. He knew what would happen. I think this was a middle finger to Jeff and howie before he left. I think doug did the same thing by not hiring a offensive coordinator last year if rumors are to be believed that they made him fire Mike grogh (sp)

Why would Reid have wanted to give Lurie the middle finger?          Lurie handed him the damn operation to run and kept him here a half dozen years after he should have let him go.         If anything, it should have been Lurie giving Reid the finger for never winning a title and then running his franchise into the dirt.

Pederson won a Super Bowl for Lurie, and has been humiliated by having his coaches picked for him by Roseman, the very guy who constructed the miserable mess of a roster he has been expected to coach.          Pederson is definitely culpable too, but he is the guy who is justified to give the owner the bird.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

True. Doug could just need a change of scenery. Though it's probably just an improvement for him to get away from Howie

His play calling was atrocious this season though. Plus it turns out that horrible coaching staff that was reported was likely accurate

I do think Doug ran out of ideas how to get both Wentz and the offense back on track.  He didn’t really seem like an innovative kind of guy.  

1 hour ago, mjkvol said:

Isn't that usually a reflection of the leadership?         That kind of garbage generally starts at the top, and this organization to me has reeked of dysfunction since Lurie sabotaged Kelly and allowed him to dig his own grave.            The two constants always seem to be Lurie and his boy Roseman.

The more time passes, the more it blows my mind that we somehow actually got a Super Bowl out of this mess.

They kind of Forest Gumped themselves into a SB win in a way. 

15 hours ago, Utebird said:

You have research to back up that claim?

My oncologist would disagree.

I've seen research that indicates that, yes.  Also personal experience with family members and friends.  Your oncologist would disagree?  Shocking, no conflict of interest at all there...

8 hours ago, eaglesfan0075 said:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get turned down by all of our top choice external candidates and end up with Duce Staley as the head coach, with Jeff Lurie spinning it off as the "guy that made the most sense the whole time", or something about the "value of diversity", etc..

I fully expect them to end up promoting Duce and spinning it as this was their guy all along. To me that's BS though. They want someone who's going to essentially revolutionise this offense and I don't see Duce being that guy. 

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I fully expect them to end up promoting Duce and spinning it as this was their guy all along. To me that's BS though. They want someone who's going to essentially revolutionise this offense and I don't see Duce being that guy. 

At this point, I am just hoping for super coordinators.  

 

I'm an Eagles Fan for life but firing our Super Bowl Winning Coach is DISGRACEFUL PERIOD.   Jeffery press conference was a MESS and made ZERO SENSE.   Doug has been a Player, Assistant and Head Coach.  He's a Legend in this organization.   If he wanted more Power HE EARNED IT PERIOD.  Doug won in the Payoffs. Nick won the Playoffs.   Those are the facts.  The guys winning the Playoffs shouldn't be the ones losing their jobs.  Nick had the most Playoff wins for an Eagles QB since Donovan.  Doug had most Playoff wins since Andy yet they are both gone.   This is not how to run a successful organization getting rid of people that brought you a championship.   I don't care if we are rebuilding, Doug should not have lost his job there is no excuse for this debacle.  

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I fully expect them to end up promoting Duce and spinning it as this was their guy all along. To me that's BS though. They want someone who's going to essentially revolutionise this offense and I don't see Duce being that guy. 

The lack of interest of any team in Duce will tell you all you need to know about him as O.C.

2 hours ago, greend said:

The lack of interest of any team in Duce will tell you all you need to know about him as O.C.

Quite possibly but I would not be surprised if Duce ends up being their choice. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Quite possibly but I would not be surprised if Duce ends up being their choice. 

Yup

5 minutes ago, greend said:

Yup

And hey you know what... That might just be what we have to accept right now. I just don't think this is an attractive proposition right now. 

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And hey you know what... That might just be what we have to accept right now. I just don't think this is an attractive proposition right now. 

Possibly so. But I hope not.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

Possibly so. But I hope not.

You and me both. I hope we are a more appealing proposition than I currently think in my head. 

Yeah it sure feels like the Eagles are headed towards a dark ages the likes we haven't seen since the mid 80's.  Lurie is a class A fantastic owner but he's really getting up there in seniority and it appears that Howie Roseman will be the son figure in charge.  Howie has lost all confidence of this team and I doubt there are many FA's banging the door to come to an organization that jettisoned the two guys they literally built a statue to.

 

Only reason this won't be quite a bad as 80's is because the rest of the NFC east also has horrible GM's so at least we won't be a doormat on the way to division rivals winning SB's...but that's small consolation for what promises to be 4-5 years of really bad Eagles football.

3 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Yeah it sure feels like the Eagles are headed towards a dark ages the likes we haven't seen since the mid 80's.  Lurie is a class A fantastic owner but he's really getting up there in seniority and it appears that Howie Roseman will be the son figure in charge.  Howie has lost all confidence of this team and I doubt there are many FA's banging the door to come to an organization that jettisoned the two guys they literally built a statue to.

 

Only reason this won't be quite a bad as 80's is because the rest of the NFC east also has horrible GM's so at least we won't be a doormat on the way to division rivals winning SB's...but that's small consolation for what promises to be 4-5 years of really bad Eagles football.

Guys, the statue is a symbol of one of the best accomplishments Philadelphia sports has ever experienced, and quite possibly one of the best superbowl plays ever. Stop thinking we need to use the statue as a way to hang on to Foles as QB and Doug as HC. We built the statue so fans can walk by it for years and it tell a story. 

Even the bozo TV guys keep referencing the statue after Doug getting fired, we didn't build it to have Foles as a QB for 10 more years and we didn't build it to have Doug as our HC for the next 6 years.

We did not have that statue built just for Nick Foles and Doug Pederson. 

16 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Yeah, that's the league we're in. Rick Kotite and Ray Rhodes, and even Chip Kelly got 2nd chances. Doug was the HC for a Super Bowl winner. If not this season, he'll be a HC again within the next year or 2.

I think he gets paid until 2022. He might decide to take a year off then start campaigning next fall when the teams that will be looking for a new regime become clear. I don't know if teams like LAC and Houston are well into their coaching searches or not.

45 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

I think he gets paid until 2022. He might decide to take a year off then start campaigning next fall when the teams that will be looking for a new regime become clear. I don't know if teams like LAC and Houston are well into their coaching searches or not.

It makes sense. One report said Doug wants to take a year off after this past year. He was fired late. Maybe he wants to rest up and be available when next year’s firings take place. 

I like Doug and he will always hold a place in my heart for SB 52 but I just think it was time. The O was looking stale, the team was very undisciplined and unprepared, quite frankly giving him another year wasn’t going to change things. In my honest opinion he was very close to losing the team, I think Lurie made the right decision.