12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Biden cant even agree with himself, Im not the problem here

First he said he wouldnt trust it because it was developed under Trump

Now hes lecturing and being divisive, and his statements dont even make sense.  None of this is based on actual science. We've known that for quite some time, this is all performative, he needs a win after his Afghan disaster so hes appealing to his base with a campaign-esque speech

Yeah he didn't say that.

 

7 minutes ago, Procus said:

This mandate will be litigated, likely up to the Supreme Court.  Cruz thinks its illegal and that the Chief of Staff tweet is an admission of such.  I think it's an overreach - but by no means is this a slam dunk that the Supreme Court will overturn it.  Much closer call than the CDC overreach with the eviction moratorium.

 

Not that I necessarily agree with it all, but there's a reason why it's not an outright mandate. The optionality of weekly negative testing is to allow for religious based exemptions. Same for the 100 workers threshold to meet the legal standard of regulating interstate commerce. Pretty clear that they did their homework ahead of time to understand what would or wouldn't be upheld in a court of law.

 

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

So I guess Biden can't count on your support in 2024?

I cant provide the medical support he'll need by 2024, he'll probably require a team of medical professionals to provide the round-the-clock care

5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

  I'm thoroughly enjoying Mike's crying.  Biden should have done this months ago.

Biden is just doing what any rational leader would do in trying to end the pandemic just like he was trying to end America’s forever war in Afghanistan. Yeah, there’s gonna be some hiccups along the way. But there’s no reason to act like a complete dope about it.

5 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Yeah he didn't say that.

 

"Democrat Biden warns against rushing out coronavirus vaccine, says Trump cannot be trusted | Article [AMP] | Reuters" https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2671NW

8 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I’m more or less talking about the Covid protections that are in place now. Would kids have to wear masks to school every day if more people were vaccinated?

I guess that depends on the risks we are willing to accept. Variants are going to be around for some time it would seem and they will make their way into the US despite a 95% vaccination rate in the US or whatever level you want to achieve. People will get sick and some will be serious. I would like to think that at some level of risk we decide to accept it and live with it but we will no doubt debate the level for quite some time. 

6 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Yeah he didn't say that.

 

"What he meant was"

Bull ish.  He was clearly playing politics and casting doubt about the whole process.  It was a f'ing disgrace

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

I cant provide the medical support he'll need by 2024, he'll probably require a team of medical professionals to provide the round-the-clock care

My god are you butt-hurt about Biden. Take some BDS pills or something.

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

"Democrat Biden warns against rushing out coronavirus vaccine, says Trump cannot be trusted | Article [AMP] | Reuters" https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2671NW

Clearly, from the full quote, he's saying you can't trust Trump to lead a vaccine rollout. Which is a totally normal and rational thought that 70% of Americans had. You need to wait for the science and experts to say it's ready. 

10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

  I'm thoroughly enjoying Mike's crying.  Biden should have done this months ago.

Lick boots to own anyone who likes the constitution

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Bull ish.  He was clearly playing politics and casting doubt about the whole process.  It was a f'ing disgrace

I fully acknowledge that you believe every word of this.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

"What he meant was"

Bull ish.  He was clearly playing politics and casting doubt about the whole process.  It was a f'ing disgrace

Take two BDS pills and call me in the morning.

35 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Well, Biden can't very well mandate that people in other countries get vaccinated, and the US is by far and away the greatest contributor to distributing the vaccine globally.  All we can do from our vantage point is force our own mentally ill morons to get vaccinated (either with Biden's plan, or with mine [which includes forced castration]), and keep pumping vaccines and boosters out to our citizens and around the world, until everyone else has caught up.

Sure. I simply stated a fact. It had nothing to do with Biden. 

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I cant provide the medical support he'll need by 2024, he'll probably require a team of medical professionals to provide the round-the-clock care

Until he gets airlifted to Walter Reed and spends a few days there, I'd say he's doing just fine in that department.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

"What he meant was"

Bull ish.  He was clearly playing politics and casting doubt about the whole process.  It was a f'ing disgrace

He didn't say that though. Not even close. You just happen to be the biggest idiot on this board and cannot understand a simple, clear statement. The only disgrace is your comprehension skills, which are pathetic.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

Take two BDS pills and call me in the morning.

Or, if he doesn't trust the BDS pills he can just deworm himself

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Clearly, from the full quote, he's saying you can't trust Trump to lead a vaccine rollout. Which is a totally normal and rational thought that 70% of Americans had. You need to wait for the science and experts to say it's ready. 

"Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump," Biden said. "At this moment, the American people can’t either."

Just now, Dave Moss said:

My god are you butt-hurt about Biden. Take some BDS pills or something.

Ahh the inevitable point in every discussion with the emotional libs

Cant prove the nonsense youre spouting so you go to this level.  

I literally said something we all agree on but none of you can take it because it requires you to deal in facts and set aside feelings

5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

"Democrat Biden warns against rushing out coronavirus vaccine, says Trump cannot be trusted | Article [AMP] | Reuters" https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2671NW

I mean, that's basically refuting Mike's point. Biden didn't say he didn't trust the vaccine, he said he didn't trust Trump. Still a stupid thing to say given the political climate, but far from the gotcha moment Mike thinks it is.

"  "Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump," Biden said. "At this moment, the American people can’t either."

Biden warned against trying to rush out an unfinished vaccine ahead of the Nov. 3 election. "

Wow. wow wow wow.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

"Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump," Biden said. "At this moment, the American people can’t either."

But then we all did, right?  We all trusted Trump and took the vaccine that was developed under Trump's administration

So what he said was irresponsible and clearly political in nature

3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Biden is just doing what any rational leader would do in trying to end the pandemic just like he was trying to end America’s forever war in Afghanistan. Yeah, there’s gonna be some hiccups along the way. But there’s no reason to act like a complete dope about it.

The only hiccup here is that he didn't do it from the beginning.  Democrats have a tendency to have way too much faith in the unreachable lunatics in this country.  We should've entered the vaccine push with the assumption that there are too many mentally ill people and Republicans that would happily see their fellow Americans die if it means owning the libs to get to where we need to be without more strict incentives.

No surprise everyone's vaccine take is conveniently in perfect alignment with their party 

I think both sides have handled this horifficly. It's a joke 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

The only hiccup here is that he didn't do it from the beginning.  Democrats have a tendency to have way too much faith in the unreachable lunatics in this country.  We should've entered the vaccine push with the assumption that there are too many mentally ill people and Republicans that would happily see their fellow Americans die if it means owning the libs to get to where we need to be without more strict incentives.

Lol yeah thats their problem, they just love too much