so, that sucked last night. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually wouldn’t be all that surprised if embiid sometime in the next 2 years asks to be traded. Let’s be honest here, the last great tradable asset the 76ers had besides Joel Embiid and maxey (who they’re not gonna trade) was Ben Simmons. That Ben Simmons trade you had to capitalize and hit it out of the park if you were going to maximize Joel Embiid career and his championship window. What they got from it was a broken down James Harden which really hinders embiid’s chances to win a title.  

So now from this point forward you have limited resources/assets and limited cap space to make the team around Joel Embiid good enough to beat a Boston team that has two young players who could potentially be a superstar and a star and a bucks team that is very good. At this very moment, the odds are very much against the 76ers building a team that’s good enough around Joel Embiid to win a title which I think embiid is going to see that realization over the next two years.

I’d make harden play on his option next year to see how much of this stink is his hammy. If this harden is what we get next year then walk away. And then either deal tobias as a expiring contract at the end of next year or let him walk the following year and have a bunch to cap space. Only issue with this is we have no clue what embiid looks like with 2 more seasons of wear and tear. He might just be coming out of his prime then  but at least you’d have harden and Harris off the books 

Unless morey pulls a rabbit out of his hat i kind of see embiid seeing the writing on the wall. there’s a chance that embiid pulls a lillard and doesn’t want to be traded. However i hope he doesn’t because he doesn’t deserve to be stuck in purgatory cause this organization has done a piss poor job building around him over the years that led us here. 

most teams with 2-3 superstars have limited assets/cap space...celtics & bucks included...the sixers aren't alone there. i agree that the only way the sixers trade embiid is if he demands a trade. 

Wright is open to a job....

18 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

most teams with 2-3 superstars have limited assets/cap space...celtics & bucks included...the sixers aren't alone there. i agree that the only way the sixers trade embiid is if he demands a trade. 

Yes but the sixers unlike the Bucks and Celtics, have made numerous poor and not savvy moves. The sixers have made bad decision after bad decision. Go back to 2018, there’s a bunch of sixers bad moves, bad FO decisions and bad ownership. The Celtics and bucks don’t nearly have that as much as the sixers do. If the Celtics get to the ECF this year that’s 4 of the last 6 years. Last year was their worse year but they made good moves and hires this past offseason  bucks always finding ways to get guys to join and made good moves to improve the roster. (Also difference Celtics have two legitimate stars (Tatum is a superstar) and bucks have a superstar in Giannis and two all star type players in their primes in holiday and middleton. Sixers have embiid. A shell of himself harden, a guy in Harris who is solid but not worth what he’s being paid and hopefully maxey one day. It is a stark contrast between Celtics and bucks vs. sixers with superstars with limited assets/cap

There’s a difference between limited assets/cap space and being good at what you do most of the time. And then there’s the sixers who have limited assets/cap space and seemingly continue to make poor decisions that hurt the franchise. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes but the sixers unlike the Bucks and Celtics, have made numerous poor and not savvy moves. The sixers have made bad decision after bad decision. Go back to 2018, there’s a bunch of sixers bad moves, bad FO decisions and bad ownership. The Celtics and bucks don’t nearly have that as much as the sixers do. If the Celtics get to the ECF this year that’s 4 of the last 6 years. Last year was their worse year but they made good moves and hires this past offseason  bucks always finding ways to get guys to join and made good moves to improve the roster. 

There’s a difference between limited assets/cap space and being good at what you do most of the time. And then there’s the sixers who have limited assets/cap space and seemingly continue to make poor decisions that hurt the franchise. 

i agree but the front office isn't going to trade themselves.   i mean....a front office like this trading a mvp candidate in his prime would be a disaster. i fail to see the upside. 

18 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i agree but the front office isn't going to trade themselves.   i mean....a front office like this trading a mvp candidate in his prime would be a disaster. i fail to see the upside. 

Tbh not just the front office making moves, it’s their ownership group. Their ownership sucks and has since the days of the process.

That said the sixers are stuck in a purgatory where they are going to waste embiid’s career being good but not good enough. The biggest difference between the sixers vs. Celtics and bucks is their owners aren’t incompetent in whom they hire and put in charge. plus their front office is actually savvy when hit with limited resources and cap space due to their superstars. I’d actually be shocked if the sixers were able to catch and surpass the bucks or Celtics over the next 2 years. That’s painful to say cause i hate the Celtics as much as the cowboys, giants, mets and Ben Simmons. Unless harden’s hammy heals next year and he’s a superstar again i see sixers basically in the same spot and embiid growing frustrated by the end of next year 

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh not just the front office making moves, it’s their ownership group. Their ownership sucks and has since the days of the process.

That said the sixers are stuck in a purgatory where they are going to waste embiid’s career being good but not good enough. The biggest difference between the sixers vs. Celtics and bucks is their owners aren’t incompetent in whom they hire and put in charge. plus their front office is actually savvy when hit with limited resources and cap space due to their superstars. I’d actually be shocked if the sixers were able to catch and surpass the bucks or Celtics over the next 2 years. That’s painful to say cause i hate the Celtics as much as the cowboys, giants, mets and Ben Simmons 

I mean letting Brodgan go for nothing wasn't a brilliant move but getting Jrue for a few 1st looks like a great move. 

The assets the Sixers have just aren't great and the Sixers need to cross their fingers that they can get Harden to sign a 2 year max deal and not 5. He signs a 5 year deal, then this era with Embiid is over. Tobias has 2 years left at 38 and 40 million. Who the hell is going to want that? Have to trade assets with it and they already gave them away for Harden. 

The Celtics look really really good and Tatum looks like he has taken the leap to superstar. Always take the long shot creator wing over any position in modern basketball. Boston fans are horrible and as much as like Tatum I am hoping for misery for them.

 

8 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I mean letting Brodgan go for nothing wasn't a brilliant move but getting Jrue for a few 1st looks like a great move. 

The assets the Sixers have just aren't great and the Sixers need to cross their fingers that they can get Harden to sign a 2 year max deal and not 5. He signs a 5 year deal, then this era with Embiid is over. Tobias has 2 years left at 38 and 40 million. Who the hell is going to want that? Have to trade assets with it and they already gave them away for Harden. 

The Celtics look really really good and Tatum looks like he has taken the leap to superstar. Always take the long shot creator wing over any position in modern basketball. Boston fans are horrible and as much as like Tatum I am hoping for misery for them.

 

Brogdon going was one of the few non good moves by the bucks. The difference is that was a bad move they didn’t compound it by making another two or three bad moves.  The Sixers will make a bad move like drafting fultz then trade away Mikal Bridges and then the following off-season signing al horford. The sixers just continuously find ways to make bad moves. I feel like the George Costanza Seinfeld episode where maybe the sixers need to start doing the opposite of what they normally would and it might begin to work out for them. Lol 

Honestly i said before i make harden play next year on his option. See where he is. If he still stinks let him walk. next offseason harris is also an expiring contract. So could let him either play it out and walk at year’s end or use his expiring contract but really have limited resources to get something valuable back. If you let both walk for 2024 offseason you’ll have cap space available. Problem is 2 more years of wear on embiid and who wants to come here. 

agreed on Boston misery. 
 

 

In a meeting with Nets officials and Rich Paul on Sunday, Ben Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him, dating in part to last summer’s postseason, which is creating stress that could serve as a trigger point for his back issues.

 

Full excerpt:

Sunday’s events triggered frustration and disheartenment throughout the organization, multiple sources said. The fallout of Simmons being ruled out Sunday led to a meeting among franchise officials, Simmons and his agent, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul, on Monday in Brooklyn. According to sources, Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him, dating in part to last summer’s postseason, which is creating stress that could serve as a trigger point for his back issues. He added that he does want to play basketball and play for the Nets as he works on solutions in regard to his well-being.

7 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

In a meeting with Nets officials and Rich Paul on Sunday, Ben Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him, dating in part to last summer’s postseason, which is creating stress that could serve as a trigger point for his back issues.

 

Full excerpt:

Sunday’s events triggered frustration and disheartenment throughout the organization, multiple sources said. The fallout of Simmons being ruled out Sunday led to a meeting among franchise officials, Simmons and his agent, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul, on Monday in Brooklyn. According to sources, Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him, dating in part to last summer’s postseason, which is creating stress that could serve as a trigger point for his back issues. He added that he does want to play basketball and play for the Nets as he works on solutions in regard to his well-being.

 

It would have been nice to get a better return in that trade (Haliburton/Hield), but the important part was just getting that mental midget out of Philly. 

 

46 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I mean letting Brodgan go for nothing wasn't a brilliant move but getting Jrue for a few 1st looks like a great move. 

The assets the Sixers have just aren't great and the Sixers need to cross their fingers that they can get Harden to sign a 2 year max deal and not 5. He signs a 5 year deal, then this era with Embiid is over. Tobias has 2 years left at 38 and 40 million. Who the hell is going to want that? Have to trade assets with it and they already gave them away for Harden. 

The Celtics look really really good and Tatum looks like he has taken the leap to superstar. Always take the long shot creator wing over any position in modern basketball. Boston fans are horrible and as much as like Tatum I am hoping for misery for them.

 

The Celtics success makes all of this sting even more.  In the second week of January the Cs were 18-21 and we were 23-16.  We were in the hunt for the #1 seed with a max contract slot not having played a single minute.  Obviously any solid trade was going to make us even better, right?  In fact, around that time many Cs fans were on board with sending Brown for Simmons. 

All was right with the world.  Fast forward to late April and it's doomsday in the PHL and those pasty dorks in Beantown are talking NBA Finals.  What the F happened!? 

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

embiid is in his prime and (most likely) mvp runner up the past 2 seasons.  trading him now would be just ridiculous. you don't throw an asset like that away in his prime. teams wait decades for a player like that to come along. 

we are still waiting for a player like that to come along and actually help us in the playoffs. Embiid unfortunately seems like he will never, ever be that guy. 

How valuable is a regular season only type of player?

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Wright is open to a job....

he better get his D'Antoni disguise ready. Maybe he can get hired here then.

30 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

https://tenor.com/bOMPq.gif
 

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Wright is open to a job....

One blank check from Josh Harris incoming. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Follow him and saw this. Harden didn't forget how to play basketball so yeah ill pass on his reasoning 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Doesn't say anything about his stupid hamstring 😛

Watch atlanta come back and win this series 

 

2 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

In a meeting with Nets officials and Rich Paul on Sunday, Ben Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him, dating in part to last summer’s postseason, which is creating stress that could serve as a trigger point for his back issues.

 

Full excerpt:

Sunday’s events triggered frustration and disheartenment throughout the organization, multiple sources said. The fallout of Simmons being ruled out Sunday led to a meeting among franchise officials, Simmons and his agent, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul, on Monday in Brooklyn. According to sources, Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him, dating in part to last summer’s postseason, which is creating stress that could serve as a trigger point for his back issues. He added that he does want to play basketball and play for the Nets as he works on solutions in regard to his well-being.

 

It's obviously Severe Anxiety/Panic Disorder and his "mental block" is Anxiety Avoidance.   It's like mental health 101:

 

He obviously has a phobia of shooting and the only solution he has come up with is to avoid playing.

 

Here's my take:

This definitely stems from childhood.... He's obviously had a messed up family life - between the abuse aligations by his sister and the weirdo articles about his father forcing him to play basketball and do everything left handed, etc.  You know something messed up probably happened to him as a kid - it explains the aloofness and antisocial personality. 

You can tell he's one of those guys who hates playing basketball, but likes being a celebrity - it's basically just a job to him.

His entire online presence is based around video games, cars, NFT's and fashion - basketball is obviously not his main priority.

Like someone said before - Andrew Bynum was the same person.   They're both 6'10/7 foot dudes who were naturally athletically gifted but were probably forced to play a sport they really weren't into by their parents and grew to resent it.

If you could not go to work at a job you hated and still get paid, would you still go to work?

 

He's still a **** and I'm glad he's getting trashed for this, but it's obvious to anybody who is familiar with mental illness to understand what is going on. 

4 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

 

It's obviously Severe Anxiety/Panic Disorder and his "mental block" is Anxiety Avoidance.   It's like mental health 101:

 

He obviously has a phobia of shooting and the only solution he has come up with is to avoid playing.

 

Here's my take:

This definitely stems from childhood.... He's obviously had a messed up family life - between the abuse aligations by his sister and the weirdo articles about his father forcing him to play basketball and do everything left handed, etc.  You know something messed up probably happened to him as a kid - it explains the aloofness and antisocial personality. 

You can tell he's one of those guys who hates playing basketball, but likes being a celebrity - it's basically just a job to him.

His entire online presence is based around video games, cars, NFT's and fashion - basketball is obviously not his main priority.

Like someone said before - Andrew Bynum was the same person.   They're both 6'10/7 foot dudes who were naturally athletically gifted but were probably forced to play a sport they really weren't into by their parents and grew to resent it.

If you could not go to work at a job you hated and still get paid, would you still go to work?

 

He's still a **** and I'm glad he's getting trashed for this, but it's obvious to anybody who is familiar with mental illness to understand what is going on. 

I won't disagree at all, but what the F have you been doing the last year. He should have been with a sports therapist the very next day after Game 7. It was so obvious to everyone that passing on a wide open layup was a mental block because he saw he was going to get fouled and shoot FT's.Rich Paul and his team absolutely failed him as a person.

23 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

 

It's obviously Severe Anxiety/Panic Disorder and his "mental block" is Anxiety Avoidance.   It's like mental health 101:

 

He obviously has a phobia of shooting and the only solution he has come up with is to avoid playing.

 

Here's my take:

This definitely stems from childhood.... He's obviously had a messed up family life - between the abuse aligations by his sister and the weirdo articles about his father forcing him to play basketball and do everything left handed, etc.  You know something messed up probably happened to him as a kid - it explains the aloofness and antisocial personality. 

You can tell he's one of those guys who hates playing basketball, but likes being a celebrity - it's basically just a job to him.

His entire online presence is based around video games, cars, NFT's and fashion - basketball is obviously not his main priority.

Like someone said before - Andrew Bynum was the same person.   They're both 6'10/7 foot dudes who were naturally athletically gifted but were probably forced to play a sport they really weren't into by their parents and grew to resent it.

If you could not go to work at a job you hated and still get paid, would you still go to work?

 

He's still a **** and I'm glad he's getting trashed for this, but it's obvious to anybody who is familiar with mental illness to understand what is going on. 

He has to have to foresight to see this can't possibly work forever.

1 hour ago, iladelphxx said:

 

It's obviously Severe Anxiety/Panic Disorder and his "mental block" is Anxiety Avoidance.   It's like mental health 101:

 

He obviously has a phobia of shooting and the only solution he has come up with is to avoid playing.

 

Here's my take:

This definitely stems from childhood.... He's obviously had a messed up family life - between the abuse aligations by his sister and the weirdo articles about his father forcing him to play basketball and do everything left handed, etc.  You know something messed up probably happened to him as a kid - it explains the aloofness and antisocial personality. 

You can tell he's one of those guys who hates playing basketball, but likes being a celebrity - it's basically just a job to him.

His entire online presence is based around video games, cars, NFT's and fashion - basketball is obviously not his main priority.

Like someone said before - Andrew Bynum was the same person.   They're both 6'10/7 foot dudes who were naturally athletically gifted but were probably forced to play a sport they really weren't into by their parents and grew to resent it.

If you could not go to work at a job you hated and still get paid, would you still go to work?

 

He's still a **** and I'm glad he's getting trashed for this, but it's obvious to anybody who is familiar with mental illness to understand what is going on. 

How about we cut the BS and just say he is a P***Y who has been spoiled his entire life