15 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

yeah...that's a lack of leadership.  you don't take games off during the playoffs. 

Part of the story. Glenn is also a coach that’s always had this issue with his teams since leaving the Celtics. When this is a consistent issue with multiple of his teams then part of it falls on him. He also has made very little  adjustments in this series besides just getting embiid back. he got embiid back. Really Miami  missed good looks in game 4. Tyler Herro missed at least 4-5 open shots. The difference tonight is Miami is actually hitting those shots at home. 

some of this is embiid has been solid in the first two games back in this series. Not what he was prior to the fracture. but tonight he needed to be mvp form and he didn’t or perhaps can’t be that guy with the mask and thumb.  

There’s also the aspect we are relying on a 21 year old kid to be our second best player behind embiid. It really should be routinely James harden. But he’s erratic game to game so it’s more pressure on maxey to have to step up. In the playoffs it’s rare you see 21 year olds having to play as big of a role and counted on as much as he is for the sixers in order to win. 

lastly one of the reasons why the deeper this series went the more concern you had for the sixers starters is that Miami is deep. The sixers continuously have to play their starters 37-43 mins a night. It’ll eventually catch up to you if you are getting lousy mins out of your bench. So by game 6 and 7,  the likelihood is the sixers begin to wear down and the heat are fine due to their depth.

Losers.  They don’t have the mentality to win big games 

Besides harden, embiid and maxey being what they are tonight (all were awful), I’d also add tobias Harris in the past two games beginning to turn back into what tobias Harris has been the past couple years in big moments/games in the playoffs for the sixers where he disappears for long stretches. The last 2 games he’s averaging 12.5 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists. Shooting 40% the last 3 games and he was 31% and 36% in games 3 and 5. The sixers need more offensively (really scoring) than 11 points out of Harris on 40%.  past two games he’s gone long stretches without scoring. They need him to be a consistent scorer with embiid not being what he was pre-orbital fracture/thumb. Game 4 he went from 4:29 of the 2nd quarter to 10:56 of the 4th without scoring. That’s a quarter and a half where he also took 0 shots between those baskets. game 5 he went from 1:26 in the first quarter til 6:35 of the 3rd without scoring (believe just 3 shots). The sixers need him to score in this series to help finish off Miami  

Add on he’s been asked to be a bigger defender then he ever has so he’s wearing down. the past last two games is basically giving you what he was giving you offensively vs. Toronto back in 2019 which was arguably his worse statistical numbers of his playoff career. 

What a total lack of effort all around. Unbelievable 

6ers in 7

Listening to a lot of embiid’s presser but some of the things he’s saying comes off poorly after a performance like tonight and in general. 

 

 

 

 

I still think they win at home to push it to 7. 

1 minute ago, nipples said:

I still think they win at home to push it to 7. 

Honestly dating back to last year every time i think they will do one thing they do the exact opposite. I thought after game 3 vs. atlanta they’d steamroll atlanta. They lost the next two. Heck when they lost game 4 how they did i thought they’d come back and blast atlanta in game 5. Lost that game. Then i thought it was over heading into game 6. They won that game. I figured game 7 at home they’ll salvage this series then lose to the bucks. They lost game 7.

This year thought they’d end it in game 4 or 5 vs Toronto. They no showed. Then i thought they’d surely lose game 6 after that and they won. Tonight i didn’t expect to win but thought it would be a down to the wire type game. They got destroyed. I think they’ll win game 6 but with how the sixers are they easily could just get smoked in game 6 

On 5/8/2022 at 6:04 PM, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I hope they play with the same urgency and energy. I worry this team goes in waves with that. Like Toronto first two games they did. Game three they found it second half. Then took two games off to re-find it. 

I hate being a sixers fan at times. 

Crushed

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Listening to a lot of embiid’s presser but some of the things he’s saying comes off poorly after a performance like tonight and in general. 

 

 

 

 

Still talking about the MVP?? Lol yeah had nothing to do with his performance. Im not saying it was his biggest issue but, that played at least a small piece in tonight's performance. Especially the " I don't know what else I have to do to win it" line.... That is someone who is pissy about not winning MVP.

28 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Still talking about the MVP?? Lol yeah had nothing to do with his performance. Im not saying it was his biggest issue but, that played at least a small piece in tonight's performance. Especially the " I don't know what else I have to do to win it" line.... That is someone who is pissy about not winning MVP.

Honestly i think the worst quote in there is the if i don’t play I’m called soft. And if i play bad they’ll say I’m just not good enough. he really should not be worrying about what anybody Fing says about him or the situation. Outside of that locker room and organization nothing else matters. he should be worried about winning game five, playing your best and coming out with energy and urgency. F everything else. 

I get it he is injured and he’s not gonna be the same player with these injuries. Not sure how many players would be playing or even playing as well as he had done first two games back. However his energy like the rest of the team was not there tonight. Heck they had the report in shoot around it wasn’t there. If he doesn’t bring the energy it feels like the rest of the team follows. This reminds me of game 5 vs. Toronto in 2019 where the sixers got obliterated 125-89. Then won game six before ultimately losing the series. However that series is much different if we played with urgency in game 4 and game 5 we didn’t bother to show up. 

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Honestly i think the worst quote in there is the if i don’t play I’m called soft. And if i play bad they’ll say I’m just not good enough. he really should not be worrying about what anybody Fing says about him or the situation. Outside of that locker room and organization nothing else matters. he should be worried about winning game five, playing your best and coming out with energy and urgency. F everything else. 

There were a few quotes in there that show he isn't ready to win anything yet. He has to learn at some point he can't piss away games because he is in a pissy mood or doesn't have energy.... You won't have it every night but, the playoffs is where you dig deep. Like you said dig deep and not worry about what people think of him if he plays or not. 

 

24 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

There were a few quotes in there that show he isn't ready to win anything yet. He has to learn at some point he can't piss away games because he is in a pissy mood or doesn't have energy.... You won't have it every night but, the playoffs is where you dig deep. Like you said dig deep and not worry about what people think of him if he plays or not. 

 

Yup. Watched the entire post game presser. It was a bad vibe all around. And it came off really poorly for embiid. Frankly i feel more towards the sixers are losing game 6 on Thursday. Can’t let everything on the outside dictate how you play the game. Not winning an mvp award sucks but if you win an nba title you are likely winning a finals mvp and you’ll get more from that anyway. Instead we are pissing away chances in a career that doesn’t have the longevity of some other players  

love embiid and he is a great player. But they’re other guys around the nba are playing or were hurt. None continuously talk about everything surrounding it after a bad effort night. They just go about their job and not make excuses when they had a bad night even if we know why that is with the injury. booker is still dealing with his hammy. Luka is still dealing with the after effects of his calf strain. Giannis last year hyperextended his knee in game 4 of the ECF. Came back and didn’t say anything and just played an all time nba finals. Granted i think embiid’s orbital fracture is worse than some of those. And he has the thumb issue.  we respect the hell out of him for playing even if he is not his usual self. Fans aren’t stupid. All of us know you can’t do everything you’d normally do. But that doesn’t explain why the energy in the first two games back were there and then tonight it was nonexistent then reverted back to talking about the injuries 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They just go about their job and not make excuses when they ahead a bad night even if we know why that is with the injury. booker is still dealing with his hammy. Luka is still dealing with the after effects of his calf strain. Giannis last year hyperextended his knee in game 4 of the ECF. Came back and didn’t say anything and just played an all time nba finals

This^ everyone at this point is playing through something. I'm sure his face hurts like hell and that mask is annoying. However, you don't need your face to run. The thumb he has already been playing with. 

That's why I'm still skeptical of Harden and that hamstring sheet. That injury has become real convenient when he has a piss poor game. 

I thought the Joel of last night was history. This year he has showed he had matured. Why did he revert back? The body language was there right from the start. Usually this year when he got mad, he would pick himself off of the floor instead of waiting for the obligatory teammate to pick him up. He would just watch to the free throw line with a serious look on his face and continue the game with great effort. His play would take out the frustration he was feeling. Last night, the fake back injury when he jumped into the stands showed he was more into his feelings than the game. That was a piss poor effort from top to bottom with that team. 

15 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I thought the Joel of last night was history. This year he has showed he had matured. Why did he revert back? The body language was there right from the start. Usually this year when he got mad, he would pick himself off of the floor instead of waiting for the obligatory teammate to pick him up. He would just watch to the free throw line with a serious look on his face and continue the game with great effort. His play would take out the frustration he was feeling. Last night, the fake back injury when he jumped into the stands showed he was more into his feelings than the game. That was a piss poor effort from top to bottom with that team. 

yep...he just doesn't have that fire in his gut. mvp candidates shouldn't need to be motivated in game 5 of a 2-2 playoff series. if you're going to be eliminated in a playoff series, at least go out giving it your all...not limping and crying your way out of the arena. 

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I hate being a Philly fan at times. 

FYP

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But wouldn't want it any other way

It’s sad but true 

 

Not just this game but in general watching all of these games in the postseason, but we might be the worst team in the league in trying to get entry passes into the post. There’s times where we just throw it to our opponent, or throw it 10 feet over the head of embiid or somehow fire it 3-4 rows into the stands. It’s a comedy show at times for how bad we are trying to get it to embiid in the post with our passes. 

Lol at the hawks. But for the nets if they somehow walk away with Collins (or Hunter) and bogdanovic for Simmons that would actually be good additions to that roster. 

 

Meh. Like it or not Embiid says whatever he wants all the time. So not surprising he talked about the injuries etc. That's just how the guy is. He is different than Giannis, Luka, etc personality wise.

We aren't learning anything new here this series about Embiid. We cant win a championship with him as the only star. They tried Harden and he is a decent add but not the caliber player we need to win it all. We need the supporting cast to play amazing every game in order to somehow win a championship. I think we are getting our hopes up just because it seems like a pretty open year. But this team is still very lacking. 

29 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

Meh. Like it or not Embiid says whatever he wants all the time. So not surprising he talked about the injuries etc. That's just how the guy is. He is different than Giannis, Luka, etc personality wise.

We aren't learning anything new here this series about Embiid. We cant win a championship with him as the only star. They tried Harden and he is a decent add but not the caliber player we need to win it all. We need the supporting cast to play amazing every game in order to somehow win a championship. I think we are getting our hopes up just because it seems like a pretty open year. But this team is still very lacking. 

Agreed.  If you can’t get another star in his prime to pair with Embiid, you’re better off seeing what you can get for Embiid (would be a lot) and going through a semi-rebuild.

2 hours ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Agreed.  If you can’t get another star in his prime to pair with Embiid, you’re better off seeing what you can get for Embiid (would be a lot) and going through a semi-rebuild.

Get some stars to build around the kid. 

This playoff run and the entire future hinges on Maxey. They need him to be that other star. When he plays like ish, which he did last night, it's difficult for them to beat good teams.