At least Maxey is still hustling.

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. Embiid needs more than 1-2 good players with him. Embiid is a strictly regular season player. He will always be too fatigued, and too injured to dominate through the playoffs. He is a super max regular season player, and just an above average starter by the time playoffs come. 

For a team that wants to sell tickets in the regular season he is worth the price of his contract. For a team with championship aspirations, he needs incredible depth around him to help carry his weight when hes playing like a role player. And his supermax makes it difficult to build enough around him. 

To be honest this is an accumulation of bad moves by the sixers FO and ownership that’s gotten a horrible team around embiid outside of maxey. As well as embiid continuously getting hurt in the playoffs. Drafting Furkan or TLC or Okafor or trading away bridges for nothing or  wasting cap space on Al Horford and having to trade him with a pick just to get rid of that contract. At some point in time when you waste the amount of assets the 76ers have  and the cap space they’ve had they gotten little out of FAs this is what happens. You get a team stuck in a purgatory and wasting embiid’s career.
 

I’ve said this before at some point in time probably sooner rather than later embiid like Barkley is going to ask to be traded because they’re just wasting his career. That’s the reality with the moves they have made over the last four or five years to get to this point. There’s no getting out of this because nobody wants Harris. Tobias Harris over the last 3 games has reverted back to what we’ve seen from him. Where he disappears for long stretches and when games got bigger he wasn’t nearly worth the money. like Al Horford, James harden was not worth it at this stage of his career. Morey/Rubin wanted to believe it was just he was on the nets and didn’t want to be there but the reality was he was just not the same player anymore and there was no way you were winning a title with him as your second best player.

Furthermore the fact that we have to rely on a 21-year-old kid and Danny Green at 34 as much as we do just to get this far tells you there’s a massive problem with the moves the sixes have made over the last 4 years.

I hope I’m wrong. But my belief has been since  the end of last season was they were going to regress over the next 3 years back to where they were pre-process years once embiid eventually hits his decline.  It looks more like that now because the last big tree chip you had was Ben Simmons and you failed on that trade. So now you are going to be stuck with a star in embiid and a star in Maxey but the rest of that team isn’t worth the money nor very good. I don’t see how morey or any GM is catching the Celtics, bucks, suns or warriors going forward. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

To be honest this is an accumulation of bad moves by the sixers FO and ownership that’s gotten a horrible team around embiid outside of maxey. As well as embiid continuously getting hurt in the playoffs. Drafting Furkan or TLC or Okafor or trading away bridges for nothing or  wasting cap space on Al Horford and having to trade him with a pick just to get rid of that contract. At some point in time when you waste the amount of assets the 76ers have  and the cap space they’ve had they gotten little out of FAs this is what happens. You get a team stuck in a purgatory and wasting embiid’s career.
 

I’ve said this before at some point in time probably sooner rather than later embiid like Barkley is going to ask to be traded because they’re just wasting his career. That’s the reality with the moves they have made over the last four or five years to get to this point. There’s no getting out of this because nobody wants Harris. Tobias Harris over the last 3 games has reverted back to what we’ve seen from him. Where he disappears for long stretches and when games got bigger he wasn’t nearly worth the money. like Al Horford, James harden was not worth it at this stage of his career. Morey/Rubin wanted to believe it was just he was on the nets and didn’t want to be there but the reality was he was just not the same player anymore and there was no way you were winning a title with him as your second best player.

Furthermore the fact that we have to rely on a 21-year-old kid and Danny Green at 34 as much as we do just to get this far tells you there’s a massive problem with the moves the sixes have made over the last 4 years.

I hope I’m wrong. But my belief has been since  the end of last season was they were going to regress over the next 3 years back to where they were pre-process years once embiid eventually hits his decline.  It looks more like that now because the last big tree chip you had was Ben Simmons and you failed on that trade. So now you are going to be stuck with a star in embiid and a star in Maxey but the rest of that team isn’t worth the money nor very good. I don’t see how morey or any GM is catching the Celtics, bucks, suns or warriors going forward. 

yep

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

 

The Jay Wright thing is only echoed by the dumbest of dumb.  

It was a little scary to think of giving Butler his max contract at his age. All night I noticed how he looks more lean than I have seen him in years. And he was always ripped. Never out of shape. But its clear that he changed something to take his self care to the next level and extend his effective playing career.

Here we are with slow, out of shape Harden. And injured Embiid watching his good friend Butler send him home. 

Embarrassing

7 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Tough game to watch.  Heartless performance by this team.   (Other than Maxey - that kid came to play).  Embiid has a broken face, sprained thumb and was just robbed of the MVP - so he gets a pass.

 

For the rest - SMH.  James Harden?  Who is James Harden?  Pathetic performance.  He can go.

No one other than Embiid and Maxey are untouchable, imo. 

No other teams are touching anyone other than Embiid/Maxey. I meant Harden will find a home but we’re stuck with Tobias.

Butler definitely made it known the Sixers fed up

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It was a little scary to think of giving Butler his max contract at his age. All night I noticed how he looks more lean than I have seen him in years. And he was always ripped. Never out of shape. But its clear that he changed something to take his self care to the next level and extend his effective playing career.

Here we are with slow, out of shape Harden. And injured Embiid watching his good friend Butler send him home. 

Besides settling on Ben Simmons over butler, I know for a fact they did not want to offer Jimmy Butler a five-year Max contract because of how they thought he would age. But the fact is if you were willing to trade for James Harden at 32 going on 33, he’s already shown decline then you should’ve had no problem at that point in time giving Jimmy Butler what he wanted cause at the end of the max he was gonna be 33/34 and likely right where harden was. Because he would’ve taken that five year max at that time. 

Harden is a massive issue for the Sixers because they needed to hit a homerun on that Ben Simmons trade. That was the last major piece they had.

Additionally as much as i like Harris as a person. Tobias Harris the player is not a championship team caliber player. He’s a good player in this league but like I said when they made that trade with the clippers, Jerry West wouldn’t have traded him if he believed he was a championship caliber player. There was a reason why Jerry West didn’t try very hard to keep him. That should’ve been a red flag and  the Sixers didn’t realize it and it forced them to have to extend him after they let butler walk. 

Harden can go. Wouldn’t even want him on a one year deal at this point. Hopefully he doesn’t opt in.  

Not even sure where they go from here…ideally Rivers, Harden and Harris are gone.  Somehow get Beal and some kind of bench.  Embiid realistically probably only has 1-3 dominant years left so gotta win soon

Doc said he knows what he did to get the team here. When he came here nobody expected this team to be anywhere.

What the hell is he talking about? He inherited an annual 2nd round exit team. Everyone expected this team to contend for a championship for the last few years, including this year. And they underperformed again. 

He was the next coach in line to inherit one of the most talented teams in the NBA and underachieve with it. He thinks he has done something special just taking them to the 2nd round. wtf?

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It was a little scary to think of giving Butler his max contract at his age. All night I noticed how he looks more lean than I have seen him in years. And he was always ripped. Never out of shape. But its clear that he changed something to take his self care to the next level and extend his effective playing career.

Here we are with slow, out of shape Harden. And injured Embiid watching his good friend Butler send him home. 

They call it "coke" in Miami. Does wonders for your stamina.  n energy come game time. It's the Miami way.

3 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Not even sure where they go from here…ideally Rivers, Harden and Harris are gone.  Somehow get Beal and some kind of bench.  Embiid realistically probably only has 1-3 dominant years left so gotta win soon

I have bad news for sixers fans, there isn’t enough cap space or tradable assets or move that  Morey can make for the Sixers to surpass the Celtics, bucks, suns and warriors. They just don’t have that capability or flexibility. This is why the moves from 2018 to 2021 they needed to be smarter and better FO leadership/ownership. Now you were in a spot where it is really hard to make the move necessary to surpass those teams. It is very unlikely that happens. So you’re more likely gonna wind up being stuck in a purgatory and wasting embiid’s career

5 minutes ago, nipples said:

Harden can go. Wouldn’t even want him on a one year deal at this point. Hopefully he doesn’t opt in.  

The problem is that letting him walk doesn’t give us cap room. If he walks for nothing, we are still over the cap. He’s still better than anyone we can get for the exception. If we can trade him for something… fine. Otherwise we have to bring him back. Not what we want to hear but that’s how it is. 

15 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

No other teams are touching anyone other than Embiid/Maxey. I meant Harden will find a home but we’re stuck with Tobias.

Toby showed up all playoffs. Rivers and Harden MUST go- start there and work in some other things. But START with Harden and Rivers. If they are here next year, I'm taking a year of 76er watching OFF. No lie.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I have bad news for sixers fans, there isn’t enough cap space or tradable assets or move that  Morey can make for the Sixers to surpass the Celtics, bucks, suns and warriors. They just don’t have that capability or flexibility. This is why the moves from 2018 to 2021 they needed to be smarter and better FO leadership/ownership. Now you were in a spot where it is really hard to make the move necessary to surpass those teams. It is very unlikely that happens. So you’re more likely gonna wind up being stuck in a purgatory and wasting embiid’s career

thats why Simmons needed to go for 2-3 solid players and 1st round picks. Not a washed up super star. Needed depth, and future assets. 

A Rivers Ran Through It.

Would you fire pop?

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

thats why Simmons needed to go for 2-3 solid players and 1st round picks. Not a washed up super star. Needed depth, and future assets. 

Looks like you were way off on that one!

 

 

Just now, iladelphxx said:

 

 

Me too Jimmy. Me too. 

7 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

Toby showed up all playoffs. Rivers and Harden MUST go- start there and work in some other things. But START with Harden and Rivers. If they are here next year, I'm taking a year of 76er watching OFF. No lie.

He averaged 11 points over the last three games. And that’s including a little garbage time stat padding tonight. When the game was actually within reach he was Fing terrible. 

9 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The problem is that letting him walk doesn’t give us cap room. If he walks for nothing, we are still over the cap. He’s still better than anyone we can get for the exception. If we can trade him for something… fine. Otherwise we have to bring him back. Not what we want to hear but that’s how it is. 

I’m not sure I care. Half the time he’s a liability with his awful turnovers. 

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

thats why Simmons needed to go for 2-3 solid players and 1st round picks. Not a washed up super star. Needed depth, and future assets. 

You could go for the star if Tobias Harris was tradable asset to get you 2-3 pieces that were role players/depth. But the problem is everyone knew Tobias Harris is what he is. No one is taking on that contract and giving you anything worthwhile until it becomes an expiring contract or next year at the deadline with 1.5 years left. The trade they should’ve made was for haliburton and hield for Simmons. Then hoped this offseason you could move Harris or move him at the deadline next year 1.5 years left on the contract hoping some team would want his expiring contract. 

** i do believe the kings would do Simmons for haliburton and hield+. I don’t believe the rumor they’d have done harris and Simmons even if we took Barnes back.