https://www.libertyballers.com/platform/amp/2022/6/29/23187875/report-blazers-mavericks-trade-suitors-matisse-thybulle-james-harden-pj-tucker-nba-free-agency

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Philadelphia continues to be mentioned as the leader to land Tucker on a widely-discussed deal that could reach as high as three years and $30 million. In addition to James Harden sacrificing some annual dollars, it’s believed the Sixers are still exploring various trade options to free financial flexibility, as well as upgrade their roster with premium veteran talent. The two teams most often mentioned as Matisse Thybulle suitors have been Portland and Dallas.

The Sixers’ biggest need is wings, and it’s hard to find many options who could be attainable from Portland or Dallas. The Mavericks’ Reggie Bullock seems like the best, and potentially more realistic target from these teams (at least more so than guys like Josh Hart and Dorian Finney-Smith, who certainly wouldn’t be available in such a scenario). Bullock would give the Sixers some extra rangy defense at 6-foot-6, and a pretty quick trigger from three with his high-volume shooting (he’s shot 39 percent from three on seven attempts per 36 minutes over the last five seasons).

 

However, Bullock was a starting level player for the Mavs through their run to the Western Conference Finals. Thybulle is a liability on offense and couldn’t be counted on to even stay in Philly’s playoff bench rotation. It’s hard to see the Mavs moving Bullock for Thybulle, unless they’re incredibly high on the Sixers’ young wing and receive additional compensation from the Sixers.

We’ll keep you updated with any more developments in a possible Thybulle trade. For now, the biggest thing to monitor with the Sixers is whether Harden does opt and take a pay cut starting from next season — which seems like an increasingly likely and helpful development.

 

https://twitter.com/SmittyReborn/status/1542177197959651328?s=20&t=VIHLr1ojfohbVTBjymkwvg

Sacramento is a possible landing spot for Tobias Harris if the Sixers re-engage in trade talks for him. – via Matt Moore @ Action Network

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

https://twitter.com/SmittyReborn/status/1542177197959651328?s=20&t=VIHLr1ojfohbVTBjymkwvg

Definitely would allow them to get tucker and not have to just ship guys like thybulle and kork out for nothing. Also helps wait on dealing tobias if they wanted too. He becomes more valuable at the trade deadline/next offseason with his contract becoming an expiring contract in 23-24

5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Sacramento is a possible landing spot for Tobias Harris if the Sixers re-engage in trade talks for him. – via Matt Moore @ Action Network

For Harrison Barnes+?

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Definitely would allow them to get tucker and not have to just ship guys like thybulle and kork out for nothing. Also helps wait on dealing tobias if they wanted too. He becomes more valuable at the trade deadline/next offseason with his contract becoming an expiring contract in 23-24

If they play it right,  Harris, Tucker, and Harden will all expire at the same time. 

Even if Harden and Tucker get a 3rd year unguaranteed to make it easier to trade,  or release. 

Could be looking at big space in 2 summers. 

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If they play it right,  Harris, Tucker, and Harden will all expire at the same time. 

Even if Harden and Tucker get a 3rd year unguaranteed to make it easier to trade,  or release. 

Could be looking at big space in 2 summers. 

I’m guessing if harden is not opting in and taking less then he’s likely getting a guaranteed 3rd year. I’d love to get him on 2 year. Even so harris and tucker coming off clears room. 

Cap 1.6m higher than expected (122m)

Windhorst said the 6ers are operating as if they have the full MLE, and the BAE.

 

So you'll get Tucker,  and the BAE should be somewhere around 3 million, so someone for that amount too. I'd guess they'd give Drummond that as a thank you/sorry for the Nets trade rather than trying to get him back on a vet min.

Apparently knicks have reached out to teams about trading Randle.

He makes less than Harris. He adds rebounding and toughness. Good fit on the court and for the cap

26 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Windhorst said the 6ers are operating as if they have the full MLE, and the BAE.

 

So you'll get Tucker,  and the BAE should be somewhere around 3 million, so someone for that amount too. I'd guess they'd give Drummond that as a thank you/sorry for the Nets trade rather than trying to get him back on a vet min.

Nets apparently trying to get ayton 

 

2 hours ago, Khani1 said:

For Harrison Barnes+?

barnes & richaun holmes works    

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Nets apparently trying to get ayton 

 

Yeah. I think its a pretty good bet Drummond will come back to play for Doc again, with more assurance that they arent just going to ship him wherever the hell again next time. 

Bench with Melton, Tucker, and Drummond would be pretty good before signing some vet min guys.

Just gotta find a way to turn Thybulle in to someting useful on the wing. 

 

Just now, mr_hunt said:

barnes & richaun holmes works    

holmes is a free agent I believe.

Woj suggesting that Harden will opt out and take less money 

 

W

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

 

 

holmes is a free agent I believe.

nah. 

Randle and Reddish for Harris makes a ton of cap, and basketball sense for us.

And allows Tobias to go be the alpha on a sucky team. 

Harris makes about 36M, and Randle + Reddish make 26-27

So you are just about at that area where you get the full MLE from the trade.

Need to find a team to take about 2M more from NY to make it work. 

 

Harden, Maxey, Reddish, Randle, Embiid

Melton, Thybulle?, Tucker, Niang, Drummond

Just now, mr_hunt said:

nah. 

my bad. I remember his name in the "free agent and trade primer" article from rights to ricky sanches. Hes in the trade portion. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Randle and Reddish for Harris makes a ton of cap, and basketball sense for us.

And allows Tobias to go be the alpha on a sucky team. 

Harris makes about 36M, and Randle + Reddish make 26-27

So you are just about at that area where you get the full MLE from the trade.

Need to find a team to take about 2M more from NY to make it work. 

Been reports the Knicks are trying to go after ayton or murray. Not sure they want to take on money if they are attempting to go after Brunson and add either murray or ayton. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Been reports the Knicks are trying to go after ayton or murray. Not sure they want to take on money if they are attempting to go after Brunson and add either murray or ayton. 

well that sucks. I had the team all figured out. 

5 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

Woj suggesting that Harden will opt out and take less money 

 

W

 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

well that sucks. I had the team all figured out. 

Might not be able to get murray or ayton. I still think makes most sense for the pacers with ayton. Although possible the Knicks do a sign  and trade with Phoenix of ayton for randle and cam if structure ayton contract a certain way and some fillers going back and forth 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Interesting notes from what I can see of that article behind a paywall

BAE us up to a little over 4M.

However using the BAE, OR the NTPMLE triggers a hard cap  at 156.9M

 

 

Im not sure teams ever want to trigger that hard cap. At that point you cant even do any sign and trades. You are pretty much limited to vet min as your ONLY way to add talent. It gets really restirictive.

I wonder if Harden is leaving enough off that we can use those exceptions, and still have a tiny bit of wiggle room before the hard cap.

KCP and Barton traded. Couple of guys 6ers have been linked to in the past

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267617/Nuggets-Acquire-Kentavious-Caldwell-Pope-Ish-Smith-From-Wizards-For-Will-Barton-Monte-Morris

I am pretty sure the spurs are going into a full tank rebuild and trying to get victor 

 

I think a little mix of whats been rumored, and what may be ideal and realistic considering that is

Tucker MLE

Drummond BAE

House- vet min

Thybulle + traded for Gordon

 

Maxey, Harden, Melton, Harris, Embiid

Dort, House, Tucker, Niang, Drummond

 

You have a ton of defense, and still really good shooting on that bench.

EDIT: Nevermind. Thybulle, Kork, and Shake still doesnt even get you close to Gordon. Dont see how they can still land him. Maybe Dort. OKC is supposedly interested. Wonder if Dort is a realistic option.