Once again, it seems like Silver may not be so pleased with the 6ers

Adam Silver was asked for his assessment on what the data shows about player movement in the NBA in response to last week's trade of James Harden for Ben Simmons.

"First of all, I think we've all changed our view," said Silver. 

Silver referenced a bygone era in which David Stern would discuss the superstars of the NBA such as Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Michael Jordan with how they were tied to a single franchise. 

"Now what we're seeing in the league, first of all, shorter contracts," said Silver. "Which I don't think is a bad idea because one of the things we tried to do with our players association back beginning around 10 years ago was tie performance to pay in a closer way. And I think that's what we've seen with shorter contracts.

"The data shows that superstars moving isn't necessarily a bad thing because it allows bad situations to [resolve] in an orderly way, to change. It gives teams that may not be in a competitive position hope that they can sign one of those players.

"But shorter contracts to me is something very different and free agents moving at the end of contracts is different than what we just saw where you have players actively seeking to move while they're under contract. The data is clear on that, that's not good for the league."

I have continuously been pondering over that the next move could be in the summer. So much smoke about trading Harris at the deadline, and instantly after the deadline passed you have speculation that we will still try to clear him to make more room for another player.

Ingram seems to be the dream. 

Otherwise, I was just thinking about the Knicks. They got pretty good last year without much guard talent. They went and added some guards, and suddenly theyre much worse. Theyve committed long term to Randle, but theyve somehow gotten further away from becoming a contender while trying to build around him.

I wonder if they can be convinced to start over and trade him.

He would be a fantastic fit here. He adds defense. He adds another legit scoring option. He improves rebounding over what Harris provides, but stretches the floor well enough and handles it well enough on the perimeter to be a great fit next to Embiid.

Hes a damn near perfect player for our needs statically, and schematically. 

 

There seem to be two options for creating a package for him. You can send Harris, but that doesnt really allow NY to re-set things. His contract is bigger than Randle's. Or you can send Green, Kork, and Thybulle. A mix of expiring contracts, and reasonably sized tradable contracts, a highly regarded yound prospect, defense, and shooting. One option is a closer talent match. The other is better for NYs salary situation. 

Thompson got waived by the pacers but is already set to sign with Chicago. 

That was my favorite big man buyout signing we could have made. 

Zion may require a 2nd surgery on his foot.  Yikes. 

30 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I have continuously been pondering over that the next move could be in the summer. So much smoke about trading Harris at the deadline, and instantly after the deadline passed you have speculation that we will still try to clear him to make more room for another player.

Ingram seems to be the dream. 

Otherwise, I was just thinking about the Knicks. They got pretty good last year without much guard talent. They went and added some guards, and suddenly theyre much worse. Theyve committed long term to Randle, but theyve somehow gotten further away from becoming a contender while trying to build around him.

I wonder if they can be convinced to start over and trade him.

He would be a fantastic fit here. He adds defense. He adds another legit scoring option. He improves rebounding over what Harris provides, but stretches the floor well enough and handles it well enough on the perimeter to be a great fit next to Embiid.

Hes a damn near perfect player for our needs statically, and schematically. 

 

There seem to be two options for creating a package for him. You can send Harris, but that doesnt really allow NY to re-set things. His contract is bigger than Randle's. Or you can send Green, Kork, and Thybulle. A mix of expiring contracts, and reasonably sized tradable contracts, a highly regarded yound prospect, defense, and shooting. One option is a closer talent match. The other is better for NYs salary situation. 

They are much worse because of Randle and his play this year .Dude has been bad  this year and he is extremely lazy on defense. Those numbers last year to this year after getting paid are bad. 

Rather Sixers keep Harris

Apparently on the RTRS podcast ( I assume that's rights to Ricky Sanchez) Morey announced that they are close to signing a buyout player.  He said he's actually disappointed they weren't able to officially announce it yet.  It is imminent. 

Allegedly is a back up center. 

 

I don't know who has been bought out at center except for Thompson and supposedly he's going to the bulls. Hopefully Morey pulled a steal. 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Apparently on the RTRS podcast ( I assume that's rights to Ricky Sanchez) Morey announced that they are close to signing a buyout player.  He said he's actually disappointed they weren't able to officially announce it yet.  It is imminent. 

Allegedly is a back up center. 

 

I don't know who has been bought out at center except for Thompson and supposedly he's going to the bulls. Hopefully Morey pulled a steal. 

Must be someone already available. Enes Kanter?

17 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Must be someone already available. Enes Kanter?

Would have to think so. Didn’t realize he’s only 29. Feels like he’s been in the league forever. He actually averaged a double double last season with Portland. 

Either way, I think he’d be a decent back up center to give 10-15 minutes a game. 

Maybe it’s a situation like Thompson where they know where he is going but they are waiting for the release so it can be announced. 

45 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Must be someone already available. Enes Kanter?

PHILADELPHIA FREEDOM!   

A backup big and Gary Harris might be enough to get us to the Finals. 

Kanter is a good offensive big but not on D. Why he doesn't stick with teams. 

1 hour ago, Khani1 said:

A backup big and Gary Harris might be enough to get us to the Finals. 

Is Orlando actually buying him out? I know that was the hot rumor but they haven’t done so yet. I’d love to get Harris. We could use his shooting. His defense this year has not been great but i suspect it’s because he’s on Orlando. His defensive rating is 116.5 and his career it’s 112.8

11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Zion may require a 2nd surgery on his foot.  Yikes. 

Feel like his career is over before it even got started. Really sad

55 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Kanter is a good offensive big but not on D. Why he doesn't stick with teams. 

agreed...he's actually the opposite of what they need but the pickins' are slim. 

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

agreed...he's actually the opposite of what they need but the pickins' are slim. 

It’s either him or Robin lopez. Those are about the only two that really give you anything on the market. Possibly favors if he’s bought out but really he’s underwhelming 

If Eric Gordon or Harris are bought out one of those 2 I’d go after and try to get. Both would be excellent off the bench for the sixers.  

Marc Stein on Gary Harris: I think he was widely assumed to be a buyout guy if he wasn’t traded. And there’s really been no discussion there to this point. He hasn’t really pushed to move on. And if he doesn’t push to move on, I think the magic would be happy to finish out the season with him.

 

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10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s either him or Robin lopez. Those are about the only two that really give you anything on the market. Possibly favors if he’s bought out but really he’s underwhelming 

If Eric Gordon or Harris are bought out one of those 2 I’d go after and try to get. Both would be excellent off the bench for the sixers.  

i've seen dieng's name mentioned as well....meh. 

7 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i've seen dieng's name mentioned as well....meh. 

Didn’t they try to sign Dieng before?  I can’t remember if it was last year or before that but I’m pretty sure they went after him before he signed with another team.

8 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Marc Stein on Gary Harris: I think he was widely assumed to be a buyout guy if he wasn’t traded. And there’s really been no discussion there to this point. He hasn’t really pushed to move on. And if he doesn’t push to move on, I think the magic would be happy to finish out the season with him.

 

53 mins ago – via Marc Stein @

Yeah i read last night there was a belief he wouldn’t be bought out and maybe the magic try to actually help in a sign and trade in the offseason to get something back for him then. 

i think Eric Gordon is more of a candidate to bought out. However i think the competition for him would be steep. Morey with ties back to houston but seems like Phoenix has been rumored as the likely destination if it happens. 

5 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Didn’t they try to sign Dieng before?  I can’t remember if it was last year or before that but I’m pretty sure they went after him before he signed with another team.

yeah...i remember his name coming up at some point. 

59 minutes ago, West_Philly said:

Feel like his career is over before it even got started. Really sad

He should have tried to stay in shape. 

Also with Morey on RTRS he said that there was another trade that was "pretty heavily explored" 3-4 days out, but that things shifted for reasons he couldn't say because it would reveal who it was.

Hmmm? Haliburton?  Beal?  Hali shifted because the Kings didn't want to wait on Philly.  Beal shifted because the wrist injury was then diagnosed as season ending.

40 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He should have tried to stay in shape. 

Dude is eating himself out of the league.  If he came to Philly he'd be 600lbs due to cheesesteaks.

13 minutes ago, rambo said:

Dude is eating himself out of the league.  If he came to Philly he'd be 600lbs due to cheesesteaks.

I think his mom is his dietitian. It's like Simmons and his brother being his shooting coach. 

At that level you don't allow family involvement and find professionals

 

38 minutes ago, therealdawk said:

Also with Morey on RTRS he said that there was another trade that was "pretty heavily explored" 3-4 days out, but that things shifted for reasons he couldn't say because it would reveal who it was.

Hmmm? Haliburton?  Beal?  Hali shifted because the Kings didn't want to wait on Philly.  Beal shifted because the wrist injury was then diagnosed as season ending.

Beal has wrist surgery a few days prior to the deadline