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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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Braves win. I have a bad feeling about the next month

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Change the effing title...... say something nice and they got slapped arournd.

29 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would give up Aiden Miller+ in a trade to get Miller from the A’s. The reason is because he’s under team control for the next five years and he is young. Plus when this run ends and you go to trade him, his value is still gonna be really high so you’re likely going to get very good prospects back at that time. He’s a guy I would give up prospects for.

I don't know. Miller has already had UCL problems. The dude throws 104mph. It's not if, but when he will go under the knife for TJ surgery and then boom, he's out for close to 2 years. He's a ticking time bomb. If they go bullpen help, I would go in another direction. 

15 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

I don't know. Miller has already had UCL problems. The dude throws 104mph. It's not if, but when he will go under the knife for TJ surgery and then boom, he's out for close to 2 years. He's a ticking time bomb. If they go bullpen help, I would go in another direction. 

That worries me, but really he is a star closer. This is the type of guy you would give up prospects for cause he’s a game changer. if he does stay healthy for you you’re probably getting three cheap years from him out of the five. And when this run closes you’re probably gonna get a prospect of Miller’s ability to help a reboot when you go to trade him. to me it’s hard to give up adian Miller, but this is one of those guys I think i do it cause it makes our bullpen pretty incredible especially if Alvarado figures it out.

I also look at it this way for this postseason run. Having Miller, strahm and Hoffman shortens the game and makes the game a six inning game. Because those three for the seventh, eighth and ninth inning you’re gonna have a real hard time scoring runs. So you better get to our starters. And if wheeler, Ranger and Nola can pitch the way we’ve seen them pitch, that is unbelievably hard to beat that. Right now I think you only have 2 guys in that bullpen that you trust. 

don’t get me wrong he is not I have to have him at all costs. And I’m open to other relievers. But if that’s what it took, I would strongly consider it. Because I think he makes that much of a difference in a postseason run.

 

Rojas!!

Phillies at bats today have largely been awful. Ortiz has 81 pitches through 6 innings. Last two innings have been really brutal. 21 pitches to get 6 outs. 

Too much to ask for Harper to run I guess........this one is over it seems, decided not to show up, thats ok the schedule gets much easier

4 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Too much to ask for Harper to run I guess........this one is over it seems, decided not to show up, thats ok the schedule gets much easier

They don’t figure a way to come back in this one they’re about to be swept by the pirates. And now down 2 runs looking like that’s going to be a tall task.

well bringing in gas can Ruiz so likely going to be at least 3-0. 

Stott is terrible, Marsh can't hit lefties, great young talent

Their offense is pathetic. Last 3 innings Ortiz has thrown 29 pitches to get 9 outs. We can say injuries but since this team went to Colorado they haven’t played consistently. It’s why they are about to be 25-22 since then and 6-6 over their last 12 even with a sweep of the dodgers. 

The negativity is flowing tonight

Mccarthy is  complete joke of a broadcaster, the guy can  not judge a fly ball when it is hit, the great ones like kalas always could

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

Stott is terrible, Marsh can't hit lefties, great young talent

Marsh has been particularly brutal in July outside of the dodgers series.

vs. Dodgers: 5-10 3 RBI 2 HRs

vs. Everyone else: 2-25 0 RBI 1 XBH 13Ks 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Marsh has been particularly brutal in July outside of the dodgers series.

vs. Dodgers: 5-10 3 RBI 2 HRs

vs. Everyone else: 2-25 0 RBI 1 XBH 13Ks 

Sad

13 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Sad

Yeah, it’s a problem.  the reason they need 2 outfielders is because they were supposed to "fix” him so He could be an every day player when they made that trade. But now in year five of his major league career, he can’t hit left-handers still and he’s a platoon player. So have both Rojas and marsh that need to be platooned. 

Can blame some on injuries but really Phillies have been mediocre since going out to Colorado. 

Since May 24 (Rockies series): 25-22

Since London series (June 8): 18-17

Since July 4: 6-6

have best record in MLB but they haven’t played like it since mid May, 2 months ago

 

38 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Can blame some on injuries but really Phillies have been mediocre since going out to Colorado. 

Since May 24 (Rockies series): 25-22

Since London series (June 8): 18-17

Since July 4: 6-6

have best record in MLB but they haven’t played like it since mid May, 2 months ago

Phillies can thank the Braves for being as mediocre for maintaining the 7.5 game lead 

since May 24: 25-25

since London series: 18-17

since July 4: 7-6

 

This team has too many holes to win the WS. Refrain from trading young talent trying to fix it like RA did after 2008. They need two outfielders, pen help, and Stott sucks. Too much to fix on top of NC going cold at the wrong times each postseason. 

8 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

This team has too many holes to win the WS. Refrain from trading young talent trying to fix it like RA did after 2008. They need two outfielders, pen help, and Stott sucks. Too much to fix on top of NC going cold at the wrong times each postseason. 

To be honest, looking around the National League everybody has holes. The Dodgers have health issues but after their first 6 the lineup is worse than the Phillies. Their bullpen is ok. Their starters are good if healthy which glasnow never stays healthy. Yamamoto might not be back til September if he comes back. The Braves have outfield issues. They also have some bullpen issues. The Brewers aren’t that good. To be perfectly honest the team playing the best right now might be the diamondbacks. They are getting on a roll and they haven’t gotten Kelly or Rodriguez back which will happen soon. The pirates, cardinals and padres have issues. Really the National League is there for the taking if the Phillies can get back to what they were April and May and add onto the roster.

that said the biggest issue here is that the Phillies didn’t do anything all off-season except add Merrifield and bring everybody else back.  Even before they lost to the diamondbacks how many times and we complain that they stranded too many guys with runners in scoring position when it was a high leverage situation? A lot. It’s why we kept saying they missed rhys. How many times did we say they needed to add a bullpen arm because as bad as kimbrel was in the postseason he was actually good for like 4.5 months of the season. You never really replaced that. Some guys got better like Hoffman, Bohm and strahm and some have regressed like Alvarado and Stott. Some still haven’t made the jumps they envisioned like Rojas and marsh 

 

 

10 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

To be honest, looking around the National League everybody has holes. The Dodgers have health issues but after their first 6 the lineup is worse than the Phillies. Their bullpen is ok. Their starters are good if healthy which glasnow never stays healthy. Yamamoto might not be back til September if he comes back. The Braves have outfield issues. They also have some bullpen issues. The Brewers aren’t that good. To be perfectly honest the team playing the best right now might be the diamondbacks. They are getting on a roll and they haven’t gotten Kelly or Rodriguez back which will happen soon. The pirates, cardinals and padres have issues. Really the National League is there for the taking if the Phillies can get back to what they were April and May and add onto the roster.

that said the biggest issue here is that the Phillies didn’t do anything all off-season except add Merrifield and bring everybody else back.  Even before they lost to the diamondbacks how many times and we complain that they stranded too many guys with runners in scoring position when it was a high leverage situation? A lot. It’s why we kept saying they missed rhys. How many times did we say they needed to add a bullpen arm because as bad as kimbrel was in the postseason he was actually good for like 4.5 months of the season. You never really replaced that. Some guys got better like Hoffman, Bohm and strahm and some have regressed like Alvarado and Stott. Some still haven’t made the jumps they envisioned like Rojas and marsh 

 

this goes way back why dave was let go with the red sox, i mean he got lucky with his one world series win but his decision making in general made no sense and he killed the red sox.

everything is about we cant do this, we cant that when it comes to getting rid of prospects for proven talent, like this is window to win now, like dave has to make moves if this team makes it to the world series, if he does nothing, either we get knocked out of the playoffs early or may not make the playoffs.

27 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

this goes way back why dave was let go with the red sox, i mean he got lucky with his one world series win but his decision making in general made no sense and he killed the red sox.

everything is about we cant do this, we cant that when it comes to getting rid of prospects for proven talent, like this is window to win now, like dave has to make moves if this team makes it to the world series, if he does nothing, either we get knocked out of the playoffs early or may not make the playoffs.

And they can destroy the minors like Rube and get nothing else

Tbh Arozerena makes a ton of sense. He’s a RH bat. Can be an everyday OF. He’s got 2 more controllable years after this year. After an awful start he’s been really good since June 1: .293 AVG/.399 OBP/.910 OPS.

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