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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - We can't hit for crap

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1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly, being up 9 to 1 I probably would’ve pulled wheeler. you want to get him rest when you can and not put extra pitches and innings on him.

You never take your starter out just because they are winning big. 

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12 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

You never take your starter out just because they are winning big. 

Thats BS we’ve done that in the past with Ranger and nola 

It's about time they butt F'ed someone instead of being on the receiving end. Maybe this will boost their confidence for a bit

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Thats BS we’ve done that in the past with Ranger and nola 

Starting pitchers are expected to go 7 innings or more every 5th or 6th day. You are not going to pull your ace, who is in the CY Young conversation, in the 4th inning of a game he is cruising. This isn’t football. 

27 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Starting pitchers are expected to go 7 innings or more every 5th or 6th day. You are not going to pull your ace, who is in the CY Young conversation, in the 4th inning of a game he is cruising. This isn’t football. 

Also, it wasn’t the fourth Fing inning. he had just gotten through the 5th inning at 83 pitches. So it’s going to the sixth inning.

What difference does it make if it’s your ace. If anything you want to get him more rest because he’s pitched more than anybody else besides Nola. They literally removed Ranger Suarez from a 10 to 2 game vs. Miami because they were up by so much and he was at 78 pitches. Aaron Nola who’s pitched more innings than anybody on the staff over the last five years they also removed from a game like that. It’s BS if you wanna do it for some, but you won’t do it for wheeler who probably at his age and amount of innings he’s logged the last 3-4 years with the postseason could use the extra rest. Hence why they gave him a couple weeks off in the past and also pushed some of his starts out so he wasn’t pitching every 5th day. 

Also, the Cy Young thing is also BS. Cause they pretty much shut him down for a month in 2022 when he had a "injury” and was really they saw he was wearing down and could use the rest and he was a candidate then. And he could’ve return prior to he entire month off they gave him. And it was known they extended it cause they knew they needed him fresher for the postseason (and that year they were down to the wire getting in). Add on they want to go to a 6 man rotation which is going to give him 1 day a week so that’s also going to hurt his chances. I’d be willing to bet with two or three weeks left in the year if the Phillies already clinched the division or where it looks like the divisions over they’re gonna give him a week to two weeks off. So he’s likely gonna miss 2 maybe even 3 starts. Furthermore even after giving him time off they’ll limit him to likely 3-4 innings just to ramp up

The whole football aspect you bring up, the Phillies have purposely removed guys from games to save their arms from the extra innings early in the season and they’ve also done it later in the season. They’ve pushed starts back and given guys weeks off if they think they need rest and running on fumes. So realistically, the Phillies have shown you they are willing to do it and that’s how they’ve treated it in the past. Removing him after 83 pitches after the 5th inning isn’t going to kill his cy young chances. 

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

If he could be an average to slightly below average hitter, and clean up the base running mistakes, we’d be set at CF for a long time. Or at least have a decent trade chip. 

56 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

If he could be an average to slightly below average hitter, and clean up the base running mistakes, we’d be set at CF for a long time. Or at least have a decent trade chip. 

Said the other night he really should model his game after Michael Bourn. I can’t remember if Bourn was a high prospect but he played 11 years in the MLB. He wasn’t a power hitter. Just a good fielder and learned how to be a solid hitter. .266 for his career. Only had 36 homeruns during that time but was able to stay in the league for as long as he did due to his speed, defense and just being a solid hitter. Frankly think Rojas is a better defender than Bourn was at this stage of their careers. 

Why I didn’t like Robert Jr. he’s overrated cause of his 2023 year which is likely a career year. He has the same type of issues marsh does where he strikes out a lot and you basically would need to fix his approach and hitting to get the most out of him. he just has more power than marsh and can play CF defensively. I’m guessing the Phillies didn’t want to trade another high level prospect and have to fix him and marsh they kind of not had the success they wanted. 

 

Actually happier to see Wilson than marsh. Wolverine and WEston Wilson 

 

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10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why I didn’t like Robert Jr. he’s overrated cause of his 2023 year which is likely a career year. He has the same type of issues marsh does where he strikes out a lot and you basically would need to fix his approach and hitting to get the most out of him. he just has more power than marsh and can play CF defensively. I’m guessing the Phillies didn’t want to trade another high level prospect and have to fix him and marsh they kind of not had the success they wanted. 

 

Jamie Lynch from ALL PHLY loved him some Luis Ronert jr. He was acting like he was the next Gary Maddox. Glad we didn't get him. 

Just now, vsptroops said:

Jamie Lynch from ALL PHLY loved him some Luis Ronert jr. He was acting like he was the next Gary Maddox. Glad we didn't get him. 

I wanted arozarena or Ian happ. Happ’a average is so so but he’s on pace for 27 HR and 90 RBI. And arozarena has been great for the mariners 

0-4 with RISP tonight 

 

Wow Realmuto got a hit with RISP. Back to back games, last time was last year 

39 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

0-4 with RISP tonight 

But they are winning, I am a glass is half full kind a guy

10 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

But they are winning, I am a glass is half full kind a guy

Turner is 6 for 8 since being benched 

lol Baltimore wanting Sotot 

 

Dbacks are gonna catch the dodgers and pass them

 

Feels like this game should be more than 2-0 and bites us in the ass 

Thompson is a dunce

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Feels like this game should be more than 2-0 and bites us in the ass 

They scored 13 yesterday you knew it was gonna be like this today! 

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

They scored 13 yesterday you knew it was gonna be like this today! 

I was hoping for 3 days of offense. Too much of me to ask for 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I was hoping for 3 days of offense. Too much of me to ask for 

Yeah. How dare you?

2 minutes ago, Know Life said:

Yeah. How dare you?

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