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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - We can't hit for crap

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9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t disagree with firing long, but the problem is going to be who you gonna get to replace him with a month left in the season. You have to have somebody that can communicate with the players and get them to change. I don’t think it’s just gonna wake them up firing him because they’re still gonna have the same flaws that they have you need somebody that can fix some of their flaws. Or get through to them and help them snap out of it. Essentially the guy you hire is just an interim hitting coach. Not really a bunch of great in house candidates in the organization. Add on if it crashes and burns anyway and you fire Thomson then that hitting coach is likely gone at the end of the year as well. So gonna need to either promote from within (we really don’t have great in house candidates. I’d have said Charlie Manuel but health prevents him from doing it) or have someone from the outside willing to do the job for basically a month and candidate pool is not going to be robust. I’d add a chance if you fire long to send a message that you get the same thing that happened with the eagles and they just completely roll over and die as a lot of players love long.

I don’t disagree with you that I would fire Kevin Long to try to send a message.  you’re spiraling anyways. But there is a world where where it doesn’t send a message and they actually just give up entirely. I know they’re playing bad and they look awful, but I don’t think it’s from a lack of effort (besides Turner not running it out a couple weeks ago). I think if you make that move and it backfires, you’re going to get guys not caring and just the season completely slips away.

yeah next year, they cannot run this back or else, this team will go downhill and probably not come back for a long time. coaches, manager, general manager, they have to be cleared out, no excuse for this to happen.

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3 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

yeah next year, they cannot run this back or else, this team will go downhill and probably not come back for a long time. coaches, manager, general manager, they have to be cleared out, no excuse for this to happen.

They’ll be changes. However have a hard time believing guys like wheeler, Harper, Nola, Ranger, Sanchez, schwarber, Castellanos and Turner will be gone. Their contracts either make it difficult to do it or they are winning type players they won’t want to trade away when they likely think their window is still open.

imo their bullpen likely looks vastly different. Tend to think estevez, Alvarado are gone. Hoffman is unknown as he’s a FA. strahm and Kerkering are likely to knows back. I’m guessing Ruiz and lazar are back too. So likely going out and getting 2-3 new arms.

rotation is likely wheeler, nola, Sanchez and Ranger. Painter as the 5th on an innings limit so likely acquire a 5th starter either prior to the season or at the deadline (preferably FA as no prospects given up). 

the lineup is interesting. Cause technically have 4 spots where can use upgrades: second, LF, CF and C. Catcher i think it’s going to be realmuto and Marchan in a platoon that’s 60/40. Then again Marchan never stays healthy. He’s currently injured in the minors. To me I’d be shocked if they don’t make a big move in LF or CF. Imo i think they like to see Rojas next year to see if he makes a jump in his second full season. If he does then they are golden. If he doesn’t i think there’s a chance Crawford is called up at some point middle of the season where they can get him for the year and not give up one of his cheap years. To me LF makes the most sense as marsh is what he is. Unless he just completely turns it around down the stretch i think 2.5 years of trying to fix him is enough to say it’s likely not happening. He has 3 cheap controllable years left so I’m guessing they can trade him and likely get a bullpen piece from a team that wants to try fixing him on a cheap contract and then trade him if they do to cash in.

Stott’s situation is much more murky. Caba and miller can be the future at 2b or move turner to 2b and miller/caba take over. Problem is neither are going to be ready next year. Most likely miller in 2026. And Caba likely mid season 2026 or 2027. So essentially see if Stott pans out in 2025 and plays like 2023. Or have a one year bridge. I’m guessing the Phillies value Stott highly enough to give him another year.

imo new BP, 5th starter and a LF is likely what you are getting from the Phillies offseason. If they fail hitting wise i think long is gone and Thomson is on a short leash in 2025 like Girardi was in 2022

Obvious to everyone but the Phillies record the last 4 years when hitting 0 homeruns in a game 

2021: 15-37

2022: 16-35

2023: 11-28

2024: 14-26

That throw to first was way more stressful than it had to be.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Obvious to everyone but the Phillies record the last 4 years when hitting 0 homeruns in a game 

2021: 15-37

2022: 16-35

2023: 11-28

2024: 14-26

Now do their record in the playoffs the last 2 postseasons when they dont hit a homer. Probably just as gross. 

3 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Now do their record in the playoffs the last 2 postseasons when they do and don't hit a homer. Probably just as gross. 

2021: no playoffs 

2022: 2-3

2023: 1-2

last year they got as far as they did cause they basically hit homers galore through game 2 of the nlcs. After game two they didn’t hit homers in games 3 or 6. Lost both. 

Welcome back Ranger, great command, the stamina will come. Score some runs for this man!!!

Holy crap realmuto hit a homer with risp

There ya go. It’s about time someone sits in a 3-0 fast ball and drives that mofo. 

just had to throw Ruiz into the game here. Why? Tomorrow you have allard going. You might actually need Ruiz to give you 2-3 innings tomorrow.  Nope let’s throw him tonight in a 5-1 game. Should’ve been Kerkering then strahm then Hoffman then estevez. It doesn’t have to be this hard except our manager is a moron 

Looks like Realmuto finally got tired of all of us ****ing about his abysmal hitting with RISP.

5 minutes ago, NothingClever said:

Looks like Realmuto finally got tired of all of us ****ing about his abysmal hitting with RISP.

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Why the F are we bringing in Hoffman now that it’s 10-2?

Sure, everyone shows up after I leave.

30 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why the F are we bringing in Hoffman now that it’s 10-2?

Our Manager is a genius

41 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

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SPACER.PNG ? :unsure:

I really want to say they’re back, but I’ve seen them go off like this in a game and then not be able to do anything the next couple games. To me tomorrow is a pivotal moment in this season. Because if they can go out there and manage to win that game and win this series it’s pretty big. I think they may have turn the corner. But if they go out and just get their ass handed to them tomorrow, it’s been much of the same.

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

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Shows up on my phone 

JFC 

 

Actually like lazar. But had to make room for allard tomorrow. 

Need to win the next one

Why isn’t Wheeler pitching today? Isn’t he on 5 days rest?

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

Why isn’t Wheeler pitching today? Isn’t he on 5 days rest?

Only reason i could come up (with beside an extra day of rest to every pitcher cause they pushed everyone back) is that if you do this then you can skip walker’s spot in the rotation this upcoming week.

Monday— wheeler

tuesday— nola

wednesday- sanchez

thursday- ranger

friday— allard

saturday— wheeler

Sunday— nola 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Only reason i could come up (with beside an extra day of rest to every pitcher cause they pushed everyone back) is that if you do this then you can skip walker’s spot in the rotation this upcoming week.

Monday— wheeler

tuesday— nola

wednesday- sanchez

thursday- ranger

friday— allard

saturday— wheeler

Sunday— nola 

If they win today then it brings a good feeling heading into the home stand.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

If they win today then it brings a good feeling heading into the home stand.

No it doesn't, they need a 5 game winnnig streak at least

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