Just now, Thrive said:

Don’t think he has the resume of an OC. 

Isn't this his 3rd stint as an assistant HC?

3 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Gannon was fools gold all along. This made me more excited for next year. 

He took a defense loaded with talent and got it to play like a defense loaded with talent.  He did have the team shut down bad offenses but they could not pitch shut outs against better teams.  His lack of experience showed in the Super Bowl showed.  He should have been going all out to get Mahomes in that last drive to either let them score quickly or create a turnover.  

Just now, ManuManu said:

Without knowing the plan at DC, that seems right. 

We know Gannon will wreck bad offenses. We know he'll flounder against real QBs.
New DC has the widest range of outcomes.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So he’s not the OC there either. 

Looks like a parallel move for Duce, but closer to home to be near family.  Good for Duce.

 

Ultimately, I think the writing is pretty well established on the wall.  RB coach is not an ideal path to OC and an even harder path to HC.   This is still very much a passing league, and those are the guys who move up the ranks.  RB and OL don't seem like the breeding and testing grounds for new OCs and HCs.  That's coming from QB and WR coaches.  A TE coach has to make a choice... focus on the passing game aspect and move on to WR coach and try to climb that ladder, or focus on the running game side and move over to OL.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

More importantly... they hadn't made that call the entire game.  That point in the game was not the point where you start to enforce things more tightly.  It has to be a consistently called game for all 60 minutes... and if you are letting them play for the first 58 minutes, you have to let them decide the game themselves and only the most egregious calls are the ones to be made, not ticky tack stuff that is let go all the time in the NFL and more importantly, was let go through out that particular game.

Exactly this.

I have a friend in SF who texted me and said that wasn't a hold, my wife works with a guy from Chicago whose a bears fan and Saud the same thing.

Everybody other than chiefs fans and maybe cowboys and whiners fans know exactly the same that even if it is technically a penalty one doesn't call it at that point when it hasn't been called all game unless it egregiously obvious.

Having said that my main issue with the call is if one is going to make that call at that point in the game make it when the penalty occurs at the point of contact not after the result of the play and mahommes freaking out asking for it.

If the ref thought it was a penalty should have thrown the flag when he saw it not after the result of the play.

30 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Hes gonna f'ing gut that franchise 

It's not turning me on anymore.  It just makes me sad.  

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Maybe not surprised, but fans should be bothered by how much of a mismatch it was. Lou Anarumo with half the Eagles talent held the Chiefs to 23 points in their building. And last year with Tyreek Hill completely stifled them in the 2nd half to go to the SB.

That is what happens when a good coach gets players to play above their abilities.

To be fair some of our "points" were scored by their defense and after an awesome punt return. 

 

I don't think I've ever been more wrong about a player, but I am so glad I was wrong.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Looks like a parallel move for Duce, but closer to home to be near family.  Good for Duce.

 

Ultimately, I think the writing is pretty well established on the wall.  RB coach is not an ideal path to OC and an even harder path to HC.   This is still very much a passing league, and those are the guys who move up the ranks.  RB and OL don't seem like the breeding and testing grounds for new OCs and HCs.  That's coming from QB and WR coaches.  A TE coach has to make a choice... focus on the passing game aspect and move on to WR coach and try to climb that ladder, or focus on the running game side and move over to OL.

Yep. I'm betting passing concepts are not a Duce strong suit and it's what stifling him to the same role on 3 teams now. 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Exactly this.

I have a friend in SF who texted me and said that wasn't a hold, my wife works with a guy from Chicago whose a bears fan and Saud the same thing.

Everybody other than chiefs fans and maybe cowboys and whiners fans know exactly the same that even if it is technically a penalty one doesn't call it at that point when it hasn't been called all game unless it egregiously obvious.

Having said that my main issue with the call is if one is going to make that call at that point in the game make it when the penalty occurs at the point of contact not after the result of the play and mahommes freaking out asking for it.

If the ref thought it was a penalty should have thrown the flag when he saw it not after the result of the play.

I work with a ref (obviously not an nfl level ref) he said it technically was a hold but agrees that it shouldn't have been called there.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Maybe not surprised, but fans should be bothered by how much of a mismatch it was. Lou Anarumo with half the Eagles talent held the Chiefs to 23 points in their building. And last year with Tyreek Hill completely stifled them in the 2nd half to go to the SB.

That is what happens when a good coach gets players to play above their abilities.

Been preaching this for a while. The reason why i say Jim Schwartz was a better DC is because there’s times he had a defense decimated by injury and yet was able to maximize some lesser talent and get them into positions to still be competitive and win games. Go back to the 2018 eagles, they had injuries in the second all year with darby, mills, mcleod and maddox getting hurt at some point in time and some for long periods of time. Yet in a divisional round against the saints he managed to hold the saints to 20 and managed to have them playing better by the end of the year. Heck he made Leblanc a fan favorite. 

Gannon did a commendable job in 2021. But really he was still not good against better offenses in the league. This year he was given a loaded defense. And yet still the lions, cowboys with Dak and mahomes put up on average 35ppg. Only legit offense (good Qb and top 10 in scoring) that didn’t go over 30 vs. the eagles was the jags and Vikings. Vikings was impressive but the jags was m Lawrence struggling early in the season and rain helped in that game. Also both at home. We were 8 points worse on road or neutral site. 

Just now, wussbasket said:

 

I don't think I've ever been more wrong about a player, but I am so glad I was wrong.

Join the club

 

 

I like this list a lot. Only major corrections I’d make are Aaron Rodgers is still too low, he had a strong season with what he had to work with, and Lawrence was dinking and dunking a lot to succeed in 2022. I didn’t see a clear path to him blowing up in 2023, he reminded me of Wentz in 2019 for Pederson. He’ll be better for sure, but there’s a gap between what he did and what Hurts/Herbert are expected to do in 2023.

Dont mind Herbert over Allen, Maybe move Rodgers up to 5th, Lawrence to 7th, otherwise looks pretty good.

Just now, greend said:

I work with a ref (obviously not an nfl level ref) he said it technically was a hold but agrees that it shouldn't have been called there.

Players adjust to how the game is being called. If it hasn't been called all day, you can't call it at that point. 

1 minute ago, wussbasket said:

 

I don't think I've ever been more wrong about a player, but I am so glad I was wrong.

Jalen Hurts is one of the few players where his "intangibles" actually matter

Just now, vikas83 said:

Players adjust to how the game is being called. If it hasn't been called all day, you can't call it at that point. 

yup

1 minute ago, greend said:

I work with a ref (obviously not an nfl level ref) he said it technically was a hold but agrees that it shouldn't have been called there.

Just now, RLC said:

Jalen Hurts is one of the few players where his "intangibles" actually matter

we can stop talking about his "intangibles" now that we know he can play

Not an Eagle here is a big deal

3 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

 

I don't think I've ever been more wrong about a player, but I am so glad I was wrong.

I'm excited about him next season. Expectations are high after that insane jump from year 2 to 3

4 minutes ago, greend said:

To be fair some of our "points" were scored by their defense and after an awesome punt return. 

This is true, but I honestly don't believe it would have mattered. Mahomes could have picked apart this defense with a peg leg in that game, that's how open his targets were and how little the pass rush was getting to him. They were going to score on every possession they had because the defense was that overmatched in the 2nd half.

And they also missed a FG don't forget and at the end kneeled and kicked a FG when they were at the one yard line, so one can also argue that is 7 extra points they left on the board also.

The only people who think a flag should have been thrown on that play are people who call 911 on people who didn’t use a turn signal when merging onto the interstate. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Not an Eagle here is a big deal

That's an odd one to me

4 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

 

I don't think I've ever been more wrong about a player, but I am so glad I was wrong.

Me too, always been impressed and a big fan of Hurts the person, his work ethic, leadership, grit etc...it's awesome to see him retain all that and also develop into a legit pro QB.

He balled out in the super bowl, I have no doubt in my mind if that stupid ref doesn't make that call that hurts gets the ball with 130 + left and drives for the win or tie.

We were robbed of that possibility as was the world but I'm glad hurts is the guy going forward, I wasn't so sure he'd ever get there