November 12, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, Kz! said: This is clearly true because Democrats are known to share detailed policy positions with the electorate. It's why Kamala took all those long-form interviews where she really delved into her nuanced positions on a wide array of subjects just before the election. Clearly, Democrats were just too smart to convince dumb voters to let them stay in power. If you're looking for me to argue that she was a great candidate you're going to be disappointed.
November 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: What, and you're not garbage? he's not a trumper, so .... no?
November 12, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said: Thats some self serving nonsense. And its why you keep losing It's the truth. You all want to tiptoe around the elephant in the room (or in your case never say one "positive" thing about Dems)... which is that the political demographics in this country have done a 180. Democrats are now the more informed and more educated party when it comes to policy debate and they're going about their business like nothing has changed. They don't know their audience anymore. They used to be the party of the working class and had to try to convince educated, white suburban voters to vote for them. Now, Democrats are basically the party of the top 1%. The data shows it. The more money you make the more likely you are to have voted for Kamala. I'm not going to sit here and be sorry or pretend that I'm not more informed than an average Trump voter. But I'm not running for office either. And if I was I'd have to pretend to be something I'm not... and THAT is why Democrats are losing. The party doesn't work and message doesn't work anymore for the modern day electorate.
November 12, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, Kz! said: Remember how hyped the libtards were in here when this happened lmfao She somehow had more coherence in whatever the hell that was than Kamala did in three months
November 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, barho said: I couldn't care less TBH, just think its pretty pathetic what our country has become. Like I always say, I make enough money to not give a damn, but I do find it rather pathetic what this country has become. Leader of the free world.....not so much. Proof that women lie "It's fine"
November 12, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: It's the truth. You all want to tiptoe around the elephant in the room (or in your case never say one "positive" thing about Dems)... which is that the political demographics in this country have done a 180. Democrats are now the more informed and more educated party when it comes to policy debate and they're going about their business like nothing has changed. They don't know their audience anymore. They used to be the party of the working class and had to try to convince educated, white suburban voters to vote for them. Now, Democrats are basically the party of the top 1%. The data shows it. The more money you make the more likely you are to have voted for Kamala. I'm not going to sit here and be sorry or pretend that I'm not more informed than an average Trump voter. But I'm not running for office either. And if I was I'd have to pretend to be something I'm not... and THAT is why Democrats are losing. The party doesn't work and message doesn't work anymore for the modern day electorate. No, and this "we are just TOO SMART” world view is why you keep getting your back blown out by a 70 year old game show host. Ever see that South Park episode with the San Francisco dip sh**s huffing their own farts? Yeah — that’s you. The problem isn’t your propaganda, the problem is you.
November 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: That's a weird reaction. You defending the guy who told parents their children weren't actually murdered? No, am asking you if you're not garbage
November 12, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, TEW said: No, and this "we are just TOO SMART” world view is why you keep getting your back blown out by a 70 year old game show host. Ever see that South Park episode with the San Francisco dip sh**s huffing their own farts? Yeah — that’s you. The problem isn’t your propaganda, the problem is you. Not sure if you've checked but "mayanh8" wasn't on the ballot. The Democrats ran their candidate and lost. Me stating a fact that I'm smarter than Trump and his supporters had nothing to do with it. BUT, if you're suggesting that people voted for Trump and against their own self interest out of spite for people like me... that sounds just dumb enough to be something a MAGA voter would do and I might be able to be convinced there's some truth to it.
November 12, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Procus said: No, am asking you if you're not garbage Nope. Alex Jones, though? Absolute garbage. Not many people on Earth lower than that scumbag Alex Jones.
November 12, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: It's the truth. You all want to tiptoe around the elephant in the room (or in your case never say one "positive" thing about Dems)... which is that the political demographics in this country have done a 180. Democrats are now the more informed and more educated party when it comes to policy debate and they're going about their business like nothing has changed. They don't know their audience anymore. They used to be the party of the working class and had to try to convince educated, white suburban voters to vote for them. Now, Democrats are basically the party of the top 1%. The data shows it. The more money you make the more likely you are to have voted for Kamala. I'm not going to sit here and be sorry or pretend that I'm not more informed than an average Trump voter. But I'm not running for office either. And if I was I'd have to pretend to be something I'm not... and THAT is why Democrats are losing. The party doesn't work and message doesn't work anymore for the modern day electorate. This is the level of copium I want all of you libtards operating at. You need to be copium maxxing like mayanh8 here. You absolutely love to see it.
November 12, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Not sure if you've checked but "mayanh8" wasn't on the ballot. The Democrats ran their candidate and lost. Me stating a fact that I'm smarter than Trump and his supporters had nothing to do with it. BUT, if you're suggesting that people voted for Trump and against their own self interest out of spite for people like me... that sounds just dumb enough to be something a MAGA voter would do and I might be able to be convinced there's some truth to it. No, I’m suggesting that no matter how you dress up your sh** policies they are still absolute sh**.
November 12, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, barho said: Women? I thought someone said you are a woman. Bar Ho would fit
November 12, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, TEW said: No, and this "we are just TOO SMART” world view is why you keep getting your back blown out by a 70 year old game show host. Ever see that South Park episode with the San Francisco dip sh**s huffing their own farts? Yeah — that’s you. The problem isn’t your propaganda, the problem is you. The most serious problem for Democrats remains the insane progressive wing of the party. I was in PA for 5 days right before the election, and Trump was running the "Kamala is for they/them" ad non-stop because it works. As Bill Maher has said -- if your policy sounds like an Onion headline, maybe find a better policy. Democrats won't stand up to their lunatic fringe (trans activists, terrorist supporters, etc.). While the GOP won't do it either, the GOP fringe isn't nearly as repugnant to the average voter -- crying fascism doesn't have the same impact as telling people their daughter is going to get beat up by a boy at her lacrosse game. If the left wants to win, they need to start calling out the crazy in their party instead of focusing on the crazy in the GOP.
November 12, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: I thought someone said you are a woman. Bar Ho would fit Did you just misgender him?
November 12, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: The most serious problem for Democrats remains the insane progressive wing of the party. I was in PA for 5 days right before the election, and Trump was running the "Kamala is for they/them" ad non-stop because it works. As Bill Maher has said -- if your policy sounds like an Onion headline, maybe find a better policy. Democrats won't stand up to their lunatic fringe (trans activists, terrorist supporters, etc.). While the GOP won't do it either, the GOP fringe isn't nearly as repugnant to the average voter -- crying fascism doesn't have the same impact as telling people their daughter is going to get beat up by a boy at her lacrosse game. If the left wants to win, they need to start calling out the crazy in their party instead of focusing on the crazy in the GOP. Yup. Open borders, roving gangs of looters, and trannies in your daughter’s bathroom is not a messaging problem. It is a problem of fundamentally insane policies and no amount of rewording those policies is going to change the fact that they are insane policies.
November 12, 20241 yr Just now, TEW said: No, I’m suggesting that no matter how you dress up your sh** policies they are still absolute sh**. "your sh** policies"? I think you've got me mistaken for someone else. Until a candidate comes along who wants to completely axe Social Security, end Citizens United, overhaul the DoD and their out of control spending, and go full bore single payer... I'll continue to just vote for anyone but Trump. But these days a legitimate POTUS candidate like that is probably as rare one who wants to run on a platform of eliminating a woman's right to vote.
November 12, 20241 yr Just now, mayanh8 said: "your sh** policies"? I think you've got me mistaken for someone else. Until a candidate comes along who wants to completely axe Social Security, end Citizens United, overhaul the DoD and their out of control spending, and go full bore single payer... I'll continue to just vote for anyone but Trump. But these days a legitimate POTUS candidate like that is probably as rare one who wants to run on a platform of eliminating a woman's right to vote. Dude, you’re a hardline democrat why pretend otherwise?
November 12, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Did you just misgender him? I thought someone said Barho was a woman a day or so ago.
November 12, 20241 yr One thing to add about the progressive wing killing the Democrats' electoral chances -- you see this much more vividly at the state and local level where the idiot progressives get into the majority. Look at some of the races in CA. The mayor of Oakland, a radical progressive, was recalled. So was the DA for Alameda County, who refused to prosecute criminals. And Proposition 36, which makes shoplifting a felony again, passed with 70% of the vote. However, the stupidity remains. While Oakland recalled the idiot progressive mayor (her home was raided by the FBI back in the summer), they still elected a majority uber progressive city council and city attorney. LA elected Karen Bass as mayor. These people do real damage that the GOP can pay up on a national level. Until Democratic voters stop supporting this insanity, they will continue to be tainted with it nationally.
November 12, 20241 yr Just now, TEW said: Dude, you’re a hardline democrat why pretend otherwise? My stances have been documented for years. We've both discussed with each other on this message board about reducing the debt and ending SS. Why pretend otherwise?
November 12, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: "your sh** policies"? I think you've got me mistaken for someone else. Until a candidate comes along who wants to completely axe Social Security, end Citizens United, overhaul the DoD and their out of control spending, and go full bore single payer... I'll continue to just vote for anyone but Trump. But these days a legitimate POTUS candidate like that is probably as rare one who wants to run on a platform of eliminating a woman's right to vote. 2 minutes ago, TEW said: Dude, you’re a hardline democrat why pretend otherwise? Mayanh8 just went from "the democrats are just too smart for the masses" to "their policies suck" in a single post.
November 12, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, TEW said: Yup. Open borders, roving gangs of looters, and trannies in your daughter’s bathroom is not a messaging problem. It is a problem of fundamentally insane policies and no amount of rewording those policies is going to change the fact that they are insane policies. What's amazing is that I can't understand why Harris wouldn't call a couple of these things out. Agree that border security is an issue, and say you will deport all illegal immigrants convicted of a felony. Saw you're against biological males competing with women -- adults are free to identify as they like, but we must accept genetic differences among the sexes. Call defund the police a mistake. Bill Clinton won the election with an easy layup calling out Sister Souljah. That's what Harris needed.
November 12, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: One thing to add about the progressive wing killing the Democrats' electoral chances -- you see this much more vividly at the state and local level where the idiot progressives get into the majority. Look at some of the races in CA. The mayor of Oakland, a radical progressive, was recalled. So was the DA for Alameda County, who refused to prosecute criminals. And Proposition 36, which makes shoplifting a felony again, passed with 70% of the vote. However, the stupidity remains. While Oakland recalled the idiot progressive mayor (her home was raided by the FBI back in the summer), they still elected a majority uber progressive city council and city attorney. LA elected Karen Bass as mayor. These people do real damage that the GOP can pay up on a national level. Until Democratic voters stop supporting this insanity, they will continue to be tainted with it nationally. Why do you think California went permanently blue?
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