32 minutes ago, TEW said:

In the minds of voters, yes.

The key difference is that project 2025 has not been implemented, but the world has had a decade to see the leftist social issues become an institutional force. And they don’t like it.

If Trump does implement project 2025, and it’s unpopular with tangible real world results that touch the voters’ day to day lives, with crazy things like roving bands of looters and dudes in dresses raping girls in their bathrooms, then the GOP will be face similar stigma.

The only way your argument holds any water is if Biden was some conservative democrat. He won big in 2020. Pelosi and the democrats won big in 2018. They weren't far to the right of democrats in 2024. The difference is groceries were expensive and people romanticized that they were cheaper when Trump was president. 

New Jersey was only as blue as Virginia this Presidential election (as it stands now).  Is this a trend towards becoming a swing state, or is this a one-off?

26 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Also the campaign doesnt exist in a vacuum. Her comments on sex changes for prisoners killed her and rightfully so

It's not like she ran on that in 2024. Those comments were from 2019. So basically he 2020 campaign killed her 2024 campaign. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I have a kid in middle school too, and have seen enough about what happens in their text message threads to know that these stupid ass clowns take pictures of literally everything that happens before, during, and after school, even when they're in a class that specifically forbids use of a phone, thereby risking it getting confiscated and having to be retreived by a parent. If even a fraction of these furry stories are real, I'd imagine there would be more pictures of them in a school setting. If you can't convince someone cow-tipping isn't real, ask them why there aren't hundreds of videos of it on youtube.

Foxnews would be running a story every week if they could locate these "cat" kids. People are so gullible.

1 minute ago, xzmattzx said:

New Jersey was only as blue as Virginia this Presidential election (as it stands now).  Is this a trend towards becoming a swing state, or is this a one-off?

Unless Trump manages to run for another term I'd assume it's a one-off.

39 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Do parents just no longer exist? Who the hell lets a kid pretend to be a cat all day long? 

I am sooooooooooo happy I didn't have kids.

My oldest brother is now in assisted living due to early onset dementia; he's also been treated for depression most of his adult life.  I've been taking him to a psychologist once per month (out of his own budget) and I can tell you from waiting in the waiting room during his sessions that every -- and I mean EVERY -- patient coming into the office walks in with a little kid.

These people would honestly rather pay a stranger $200+ per hour to explain life to their kid rather than do their own parenting.  It's really sobering to see.

18 minutes ago, rambo said:

Here you go @vikas83 .  Dig in.  It's worse than I thought.  🤣

 

This is like everything else, weirdos instead of seeking help for their mental illness, find other weirdos on the internet to reassure each other that they're not weirdos. 

2 minutes ago, Gannan said:

It's not like she ran on that in 2024. Those comments were from 2019. So basically he 2020 campaign killed her 2024 campaign. 

Doesnt matter. Its still her. 
 

you like to talk about cult, but you keep missing is that people end up voting for the person more than the platform

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I have a kid in middle school too, and have seen enough about what happens in their text message threads to know that these stupid ass clowns take pictures of literally everything that happens before, during, and after school, even when they're in a class that specifically forbids use of a phone, thereby risking it getting confiscated and having to be retreived by a parent. If even a fraction of these furry stories are real, I'd imagine there would be more pictures of them in a school setting. If you can't convince someone cow-tipping isn't real, ask them why there aren't hundreds of videos of it on youtube.

I'm not saying it's rampant.  Just happen to be 2 in the 6th grade center at our school district.  I don't even have an issue with it honestly (besides allowing them to use the boys room), it's just funny to me.  My boy doesn't have a phone yet.  Can't be trusted and most of these kids use snap which deletes them message after a certain time frame.

So I was under the impression they were furries until my boy came home a corrected me and explained the difference between therian and furry.  It's friggen hilarious, imo.

Just now, Paul852 said:

Foxnews would be running a story every week if they could locate these "cat" kids. People are so gullible.

Parents taking stories like this at face value almost makes me question what school they attended when they were that age, because apparently all the rumors they heard back then must've been 100% true.

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Doesnt matter. Its still her. 
 

you like to talk about cult, but you keep missing is that people end up voting for the person more than the platform

I'm not saying it didn't sink her. My wife made the point that her campaign "was doomed from the start" and this is yet another example. TEW in his victory lap, is saying how horrible her campaign was. I'm saying it really doesn't matter what kind of campaign she ran, she never really had a chance for a multitude of reasons. This is clearly one of them. She couldn't walk back what she said in the last campaign.

3 minutes ago, rambo said:

I'm not saying it's rampant.  Just happen to be 2 in the 6th grade center at our school district.  I don't even have an issue with it honestly (besides allowing them to use the boys room), it's just funny to me.  My boy doesn't have a phone yet.  Can't be trusted and most of these kids use snap which deletes them message after a certain time frame.

So I was under the impression they were furries until my boy came home a corrected me and explained the difference between therian and furry.  It's friggen hilarious, imo.

I would ask my kids about this, but that's just not a conversation I want to have. They go to Catholic schools so I doubt this is a thing in their circles. 

4 minutes ago, rambo said:

I'm not saying it's rampant.  Just happen to be 2 in the 6th grade center at our school district.  I don't even have an issue with it honestly (besides allowing them to use the boys room), it's just funny to me.  My boy doesn't have a phone yet.  Can't be trusted and most of these kids use snap which deletes them message after a certain time frame.

So I was under the impression they were furries until my boy came home a corrected me and explained the difference between therian and furry.  It's friggen hilarious, imo.

Sure, or it could also just be a story that started with a grain of truth and was embellished for effect every time it was retold.

4 minutes ago, rambo said:

Here you go @vikas83 .  Dig in.  It's worse than I thought.  🤣

 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Sure, or it could also just be a story that started with a grain of truth and was embellished for effect every time it was retold.

I'm going to have two kids in school for a while. I'll report back when i run into my first cat kid (not on Halloween of course).

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Sure, or it could also just be a story that started with a grain of truth and was embellished for effect every time it was retold.

No.

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I'm going to have two kids in school for a while. I'll report back when i run into my first cat kid (not on Halloween of course).

My daughter is in 8th and hasn't come across it.

6 hours ago, barho said:

Agreed, you can't buy yourself into the Oval Office, but apparently you can win it through hate.  How sad is that?

If hate was all it took, Kamala would have been able to pull it off. 

5 minutes ago, rambo said:

No.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/no-evidence-that-us-schoolchildren-are-self-identifying-as-animals-and-disrupt-idUSL1N2YN1O2/

19 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The only way your argument holds any water is if Biden was some conservative democrat. He won big in 2020. Pelosi and the democrats won big in 2018. They weren't far to the right of democrats in 2024. The difference is groceries were expensive and people romanticized that they were cheaper when Trump was president. 

I would argue that 2018 was run if the mill mid term reaction that happens nearly every election cycle. It also came before the summer of love.

Biden actually WAS seen as a throwback candidate. That was the whole point of his "campaign.” Some semblance of the past. That illusion was then destroyed, so now we have Trump.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/no-evidence-that-us-schoolchildren-are-self-identifying-as-animals-and-disrupt-idUSL1N2YN1O2/

Cool.

20 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

New Jersey was only as blue as Virginia this Presidential election (as it stands now).  Is this a trend towards becoming a swing state, or is this a one-off?

Think we saw alot of one-off states this year. Even california had tons more red counties than usual. Doubt that holds

12 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I'm going to have two kids in school for a while. I'll report back when i run into my first cat kid (not on Halloween of course).

Wasn't there that one weirdo teacher who wore massive fake boobs to school everyday? We found out because there were like tens of thousands of pics of him, including in the actual classroom.

That was one teacher, at one school, doing some weird ish, and it was plastered all over the interent. But we now have at least 2 (or even 3?) people on the subforum of an NFL team's unofficial message board who say it's happening at their kid's school, but still no pics? Yeah, I'm gonna need to see some more evidence besides the "Trust me bro" of a 6th grader.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Wasn't there that one weirdo teacher who wore massive fake boobs to school everyday? We found out because there were like tens of thousands of pics of him, including in the actual classroom.

That was one teacher, at one school, doing some weird ish, and it was plastered all over the interent. But we now have at least 2 (or even 3?) people on the subforum of an NFL team's unofficial message board who say it's happening at their kid's school, but still no pics? Yeah, I'm gonna need to see some more evidence besides the "Trust me bro" of a 6th grader.

I've been assured it's widespread so at this point I'm just waiting. Surely the dude without kids who said it's happening all over is right.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Wasn't there that one weirdo teacher who wore massive fake boobs to school everyday? We found out because there were like tens of thousands of pics of him, including in the actual classroom.

That was one teacher, at one school, doing some weird ish, and it was plastered all over the interent. But we now have at least 2 (or even 3?) people on the subforum of an NFL team's unofficial message board who say it's happening at their kid's school, but still no pics? Yeah, I'm gonna need to see some more evidence besides the "Trust me bro" of a 6th grader.

Hey Napoleon, you're really blowing this out of proportion.  They're not causing disruption or anything like that.  And yes, I do trust my boy and all players on my team.  I'm just saying they exist and I find it funny.  Not that it's a pandemic.

And for future reference, calling someones kid a liar is a dick move.  Kid is in advanced classes and does very well in school and is as honest as them come.