45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Our QB was Heisman runner up operating spread. Totally disagree. Believe this is exactly a formula to apply even more stress to our opponents D. Saquan….or downfield. The more you spread things out….the less any disguise can even be attempted. Numbers game….just pushing those numbers to be even more well defined by clearing out the box even more.

The problem with clearing out the box is that you don’t punish (and wear down) the Defense as much. Imposing their will on the opponent is at the heart of the Eagles Offensive game plan

The RB from FL could be a total steal(Montrell Johnson) I fully expect him and Ship to be the 2/3 next year and we can let Dillon go

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Right... you have to make adjustments to minimize the limitations of a guy like Calcaterra....correct. .it's why he isn't looked at as a #1 TE.

But we shall see what happens.

" MOVE" " WHAM" ... love the terminology, regardless though, both Goedert and Calcaterra on their final year... you would assume if the team views " wham" " move" and route running as enough, then they can part ways with Goedert and let Calcaterra take over as #1 TE.

If they don't do that, then I would easily assume they don't view Wham, move etc...as enough in their offense.

Moving to Calc just makes so much more sense in the current financial environment here.

The Wuss will be our competition this year

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Right... you have to make adjustments to minimize the limitations of a guy like Calcaterra....correct. .it's why he isn't looked at as a #1 TE.

But we shall see what happens.

" MOVE" " WHAM" ... love the terminology, regardless though, both Goedert and Calcaterra on their final year... you would assume if the team views " wham" " move" and route running as enough, then they can part ways with Goedert and let Calcaterra take over as #1 TE.

If they don't do that, then I would easily assume they don't view Wham, move etc...as enough in their offense.

What’s the financial gap between the two really making that decision obvious?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I don’t think they will Jurgens cap hits are 3, 5 and 8 mil over the next 3 years does go to 11m and 15m in years 4 and 5 but by then we will have 3 salary increases and likely look to extend Jurgens or move him by then.

As for Davis the 5th year option doesn’t go into effect until 2026 and he will likely have a new deal before then no need to speculate

Heavy backloading that already practically forcing us to extend in a bad situation down the line.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

With regard to Cam, Howie was just being Howie … extending a player one to two years before everyone else would extend that player. At the time of the announcement of the extension, the dollars appear to be somewhat high. However, when the one to two years elapses, the numbers that seemed so high are no longer as high due to new contacts that have been signed by other teams with players at that position. Further, the AAV of the extension only kicks in after the current contract expires. And in addition, the player gets their bonus cash up front. It is a win-win-win all around.

Usually what you point towards would apply. But not at those position. Top guy just got his money. C money is jumping forward these next years like every other position,

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See I really appreciate this post. Detailed specifics from a knowledgable Birds fan! Thank you!

I cut my teeth in the Eagles Blog when @goeagles99 originally created it on the old EMB on PE.com. Lots of listening to and learning from people who knew and know much more than me. There is a hell of a lot of camaraderie in the Blog. A reasonable amount of difference of opinion as well.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The way I see how it works ideally is if needed that player has to pass block

Agreed, both pass block and run block.

However, there are multiple ways to accomplish that. For instance, the Off that the Cowboys drafted at Pick 22 was not on my personal Board in any of the 7 Rounds. He is a hell of a blocker "in a phone booth” but ask him to block in space or get to the second level or pull and he is out of his league. The Eagles consistently want their O-linemen to be nimble ad proficient when blocking in space, blocking at the second level and pulling. Stoutland understands the value of a head start when two players collide.

On a separate but related subject, one of Davis’ great strengths is his ability to recognize and blow up screen plays. He is so massively strong that he constantly gets double team blocking, and when that imposition of opposing force doesn’t happen, he instantly smells a rat and acts accordingly … to the detriment of the players in the screen.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lane's career isn't ending for 2-3 more years. Lane will "welcome him to the NFL"

Two more years….against what could very well become a game wrecking terror of elite pass rushing mayhem. Not even sure Lane can stop him. He is a tough matchup for him even. This rookie is a serious problem!

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why? He was a TE. Like considering Hurts a RB who can throw "always"

Not the way I saw things. Tony G has always been one of…mostly considered the best TE ever. But he transcended and blurred the lines between TE and WR. Really thought he performed mostly like a wideout. One of the best Wideouts ever at that.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Didn’t Jurgens make the pro bowl last year??? So we paid our pro bowl C and his cap hits are peanuts over the next 3 years while the cap will continue to grow

Can talk about pro bowl this and that. That’s fair argument even. Exactly his leverage that really stuck it to us to pay that much. I haven’t seen him at any elite levels though. Don’t think I’m dogging him even from my perspective. Just calling him above average and a good starting player.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I don’t think they will Jurgens cap hits are 3, 5 and 8 mil over the next 3 years does go to 11m and 15m in years 4 and 5 but by then we will have 3 salary increases and likely look to extend Jurgens or move him by then.

As for Davis the 5th year option doesn’t go into effect until 2026 and he will likely have a new deal before then no need to speculate

Fifth year option goes into effect the moment it’s exercised. That’s the point I’m highlighting…that you are missing here. We owe him that now. It’s more than he’s worth….plus puts us in bad leverage situation needing to extend to lower that cap hit. Fairly important big fork in that road with him. He’s owning us in these negotiations is my takeaway from it.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Is this an accurate statement or just your own bias??? What’s the difference between runs when Davis is on the field v not??? He is obviously going to have a much larger impact against the run then a pass rusher

He got injured and wasn’t in high enough conditioning rookie season. So wasn’t even turned to those playoffs. Been raising his game each season though. But these figures would be so clearly based more on future potential than actual proven production so far.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Is this an accurate statement or just your own bias??? What’s the difference between runs when Davis is on the field v not??? He is obviously going to have a much larger impact against the run then a pass rusher

I mean across the board in the NFL pass D gets paid so much more than run d. DE, LB and S that are great run defenders but not pass down players aren’t ever making the big bucks.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie is great. He signs those "too high" contracts for extended years and they get surpassed while our guys are still under contract due to the cap salary increases. Of course the fans pay for that along with increased ad prices. $13.00 for a beer is a bit much, but as long as we suck them down,they won't stop

Yeah you obviously aren’t speaking about the Bradberry and Huff contracts. It works for and against you. Problem lies in that everybody knows if Rosie isn’t extending you early…he’s not looking to pay you. Creates situations like Reddick and so on…:quality signing….but in the end we had to just suck up all that loot on a guy not even playing here.

But you still have to pick and choose. Sign early good players. Great! Obvious. But which players don’t you keep and when? Where do you draw the lines and what lace value? Cam is an above average young player looking to only improve. So obviously would like to retain. But not at any cost. I’d say he actually would be a fairly easy player to replace with minimal dropoff.

55 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie will restructure or let him walk. he is young enough to warrant another 4 year deal. I love how we stuff the run and force teams to throw into our ridiculously effective secondary. Pick your poison LOL

This all ties into long term extension talks Rosie and Davis have been engaging in. These results I see as Rosie losing on all fronts pretty much:

55 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why? Either you win it or you don't. Like we "should" have won the SB we lost vs KC

Don’t think your point is very relevant. They weakened us and strengthened themselves making a SB run signing Hargrave. Who doesn’t make that move in those circumstances? It was a good move.

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Heavy backloading that already practically forcing us to extend in a bad situation down the line.

You still don't get it LOL

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

All the linemen we had in also and didn't take ANY. Howie said they only had 10 players with round 1 grades (Campbell being one of them)

I told you universally it was deemed a weak draft

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Two more years….against what could very well become a game wrecking terror of elite pass rushing mayhem. Not even sure Lane can stop him. He is a tough matchup for him even. This rookie is a serious problem!

Then Hurts needs to learn to throw tunning to the left

Lane has dealt with the top rushers for many years, now you are saying a rookie is going to teach him some things? I have my doubts. and BTW WHAT are you going to DO about it? Nothing, there is nothing you can do about it except whine and worry. if we need to go to the quick passing game we will

53 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They will stink until they find QB1. Belichick had Brady, he was the franchise, not Bill. Milton is not enough to turn that loser franchise around. He will be DOA up there if he wanted to be on a contender

Not where Vrabel has ever earned his success from. History says you’re wrong. He needs to change the culture. Bring in a SB winner….that kicked butt under the biggest lights. Their QB might be adequate for Vrabel to roll with being he’s a D mind HC. He didn’t rely on top QB in Nashville ever.

56 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They will stink until they find QB1. Belichick had Brady, he was the franchise, not Bill. Milton is not enough to turn that loser franchise around. He will be DOA up there if he wanted to be on a contender

Milton doesn’t have to be the one player fix everything. He’s a piece in the right direction though. Great signing for them.