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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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59 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

From my view winningest coach ever for us really pissed me off being so unqualified. For me he’s been responsible for delaying our best ever franchise QB. Like I’ve said I’m blessed while also cursed…understanding just how much more we could have given our O and especially Hurts. Any franchise takes a QB first overall pick…or first round…nobody even hesitates to have understanding developing your franchise QB takes priority over everything else. Siri instead short term thinking one step at a time approach…chose short cutting our best ever. Allowed to under the circumstances FO wasn’t considering Hurts as our franchise QB at first. Rosie heavily investing scouting a devoid QB class actually really considering a need for Pickett. So Rosie at fault some here as well. But Siri way about things one thought only at a time isn’t even probably the biggest holdup. Him skipping teaching Hurts basics because week one each season it wasn’t essential relying on Kelce instead. What held things up so much was Siri can’t do it. Siri doesn’t get it….so of course he isn’t believing it’s such a crucial element. Explains plenty about his so called O scheme. Best ever franchise QB been stuck in a terrible O scheme I’d identify as the even bigger delay and holdup having to be overcome.

So my question is would you rather have a "qualified" head coach who doesn't delay Hurts progression

OR would you rather have 2 SB appearances and one win since Siri's been here?

I'll take the SB all day long

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50 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Did you ever look at the resumes.... Siri , Andy, Doug... prior to being hired. Siri’s resume smokes the other 2. Not even close.

But what’s the conclusion of this? That Rosie was only interested in hiring puppets not demanding power to go along with the title? Pedey got booted the very moment he felt like he earned anything more after winning the Sb …with his backup QB….against the best ever dynasty opponent.

Moore resume without question was superior to Siri in comparison. Not even close. Siri was hired based on Gannon mostly …Steichen quality OC on board also.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Moore resume without question was superior to Siri in comparison. Not even close. Siri was hired based on Gannon mostly …Steichen quality OC on board also.

Heck I’m near convinced Rosie higher on Gannon than ever was about Siri.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

Mirror mirror on the wall who’s the most narcissistic of them all?

I deal with reality instead of lying to myself. I was very straight telling about myself. Just one facet comes out here revolving around it. It’s something I’ve faced my entire life …in everything really. Felt like such a gift….before experience made me so aware of the entirety of what I just know as my life. I have great attributes as well as ridiculous weaknesses also. I at a very early age decided to accept myself and be me.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

Mirror mirror on the wall who’s the most narcissistic of them all?

Is what it is. Explained it as great and terrible. But …any chance you believe I wasn’t expecting such a response? I get it…from my side of things I’m just being real. Doubt many could relate and understand though. Feels like a fairly unique very complicated personal trait I’ve dealt with/I’ve capitalized on.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

Mirror mirror on the wall who’s the most narcissistic of them all?

No judgment from me on your response. You never walked in my shoes. So of course in your mind this is how it probably comes off…just different is really all.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Spin and conjecture

Very knowledgable educated assumption. I’m not Siri best friend to insider exactly know everything at all. But ….you are the one brought up your understanding of Occams Razor….there it is in action being applied for me to form an opinion.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

The Patricia hire made no sense at all. It was really strange and a very bad decision/move. Whose fingerprints were on that hire never were clear. No clarifying evidence exists that I’ve ever seen. We are left to speculate.

Again…I can’t conclude anything but Rosie formulating this concocted plan of scapegoating Desai already having selected the option he’s turning to. Really all on Rosie. He screwed things up pretty bad all over that situation. Had Fangio already in house to succeed Gannon. Reality took a bunch of effort for Rosie to have botched the DC job transfer. Rosie really loved him some Gannon. Telling you…Gannon is the main reason Siri was hired as HC.

Believe Lurie recognized all the great non football qualities with Siri also being key. He understands so much more than just X and O brilliance required.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

For the most part your bolded statement is true, but it definitely was not true during the time Chip Kelly was here. Roseman was stripped of his power during that period.

Which did nothing but cement his way of thinking against losing his power.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

For the most part your bolded statement is true, but it definitely was not true during the time Chip Kelly was here. Roseman was stripped of his power during that period.

Which again was a hire many favored. No Mas loved Chipper. Very clear to me how flawed his approach was. FL loved how much stats could be put up supplying extra possessions every game Chipper coached. Even could see stat chasing enticing potential players towards choosing that O.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Which again was a hire many favored. No Mas loved Chipper. Very clear to me how flawed his approach was. FL loved how much stats could be put up supplying extra possessions every game Chipper coached. Even could see stat chasing enticing potential players towards choosing that O.

But lord don’t try and be any kind of leader under Chipper. There was no room for any other opinions with that coach. This is the way…comply….of I’ll trade you off for a bag of stale LB donuts even if you are an elite player.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

For the most part your bolded statement is true, but it definitely was not true during the time Chip Kelly was here. Roseman was stripped of his power during that period.

But…no question this promotion for Patullo was clearly Siri making the choice. No other choice with a HC just win the SB. Rosie fired Pedey for it so soon after winning it all….but no way can spin firing the coach that just won it all. Rosie could hate Patullo decision more than I…nothing can be done about it though.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Spin and conjecture

That was detailed laying out the exact proven track record….not like I’m jumping to this based on a single game or moment…extensive enough sample size to formulate opinions from.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So anything that’s never happened before can’t ever occur according to this logic. History clearly repeats itself. But also future always has new things never been done before. Both are true…and certain.

Reading is fundamental. You blithely skipped over (wantonly ignored) the word "near.”

But heck No Mas chooses to blind himself surrounding Siri so much he says he actually believes Moore was a Siri hire he chose. Stripped of power at a low point to gain power from Rosie…hired because he couldn’t demand any earned power…years and years everything telling you Rosie clearly made the hire of Moore his interviewed most likely second choice as HC versus Siri. In fact…I believe the HC choice over Siri…head to head. Moore didn’t have Gannon along though. Siri wins the SB gaining a situation he can’t be recorded his hire….he promotes his right hand buddy Patullo. The guy he insisted stayed here so he wasn’t surrounded by enemy Moore coaches. Clear moment Siris choice: Patullo. No universe that guy chooses his exact main rival second favorited for his job by Rosie.

I can’t even picture a version Rosie promotes Patullo or agree with the choice. Fired Pedey for a more qualified unproven choice he made.

No spin any GM can work for firing Siri right after he won it all though. Rosie would get villainized everywhere.

Last season exactly opposite. Siri was holding on by the slightest thread for any way he could keep his job. Zero power…

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My answer was exactly what Eagles fans expectations should be. Why lowered expectations have just become expected and acceptable for so many Eagles fans I can’t really put my finger on the cause.

Your answer didn’t meet the criteria of the question asked, which was for one or more names that you would propose for the position. You either had the arrogance to believe that answering the question as asked was beneath you OR the cowardice/fear of providing an answer OR both.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Did you ever look at the resumes.... Siri , Andy, Doug... prior to being hired. Siri’s resume smokes the other 2. Not even close.

How do you even mean? Guess I’m missing plenty about Siri’s past. Just knew his dad was a coach…he was a WR coach jumped up to OC to do all the leg work for Reich. An OC…not running his own O …under a HC never proved worthy of the title. Pedey worked under AR. Elite HOF coach arguably the best ever. AR under Holmgren very responsible working with Favre. AR and Pedey equipped with as quality an O scheme as existed at the time pretty much. AR taken it miles forward since…but fantastic revolutionary O scheme.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You’re late to the party. Ask anybody else comes around here about my pecking order of choice OC would have been. They all can answer for me. But not about falling in love with just one option. The answer I’ve supplied applies the entire Siri HC Eagles career.

I will defer to Joe and NC for whether you have ever given a pecking order of the actual names of human beings who you believed met your criteria. If they can’t corroborate such a list provided by you, then it is up to you to provide the evidence of such a list. If you don’t provide it then you will simply have confirmed yourself as a liar.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Did you ever look at the resumes.... Siri , Andy, Doug... prior to being hired. Siri’s resume smokes the other 2. Not even close.

But please instead of always just alluding towards whatever you really are trying to say…please just say it for once. I’m not doing the work towards digging this all up. What am I missing about Siri’s resume qualifying him as HC? Giving you the credit assuming I have to be really missing something

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

From my view winningest coach ever for us really pissed me off being so unqualified. For me he’s been responsible for delaying our best ever franchise QB. Like I’ve said I’m blessed while also cursed…understanding just how much more we could have given our O and especially Hurts. Any franchise takes a QB first overall pick…or first round…nobody even hesitates to have understanding developing your franchise QB takes priority over everything else. Siri instead short term thinking one step at a time approach…chose short cutting our best ever. Allowed to under the circumstances FO wasn’t considering Hurts as our franchise QB at first. Rosie heavily investing scouting a devoid QB class actually really considering a need for Pickett. So Rosie at fault some here as well. But Siri way about things one thought only at a time isn’t even probably the biggest holdup. Him skipping teaching Hurts basics because week one each season it wasn’t essential relying on Kelce instead. What held things up so much was Siri can’t do it. Siri doesn’t get it….so of course he isn’t believing it’s such a crucial element. Explains plenty about his so called O scheme. Best ever franchise QB been stuck in a terrible O scheme I’d identify as the even bigger delay and holdup having to be overcome.

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