Niners aren’t looking to be in a great position now though. If I was Lynch(Shannahan) whoever’s got what power there…I’d rip that team up. Kittle, McCaffrey…Trent Williams might be the best OLine ever. But he’s like 36. You don’t get rid of him…but he’s isn’t a building block for a new future. They’re done! Easy schedule this season though. But those sick drafts the Niners were pulling aren’t what’s going on now. Heck really that trade up for Trey just still showing big time now. That was an alltime reach by Lynch. I couldn’t figure out why he would have been a second round draft pick even. All potential…something.

Then they went All In with Hargrave and others. Timing was correct….team flawed..not champions. So All In has its prove they’re paying after SB hangover.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You will never find anything because it's not there.

I wouldn't call you a liar , just ignorant. Which is easy to see when in your mind you get facts all wrong... Like the recent example of you stating SF making 7 nfc title games when it was 4... when you make such an egregious mistake... i.tend to lean more on ignorance than intentionally lying.

I just don’t think you pay attention to other posts because of the narcissistic nature you have.

Brought a grin to me just knowing how much that had to hurt you to deny that absolutely brutal opinion you had then. Worse than just manning up and owning it to me…but to each their own. We all win is what’s great about it. Think you’re happy you were wrong and we won another Championship.

I actually not even sure where you stand about Hurts right now this offseason? We know you aren’t thinking he can’t win the Lombardi at least.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Get rid of 2 teams...how do you divide up the divisions and conferences now?

They weren’t always so evened up. Heck two divisions in each conference I’d be fine with. They really seemed to realign and make 8 divisions targeting Manning and Brady setup. Made sure those two were sandbag divisions.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Get rid of 2 teams...how do you divide up the divisions and conferences now?

Actually want four less. But no way that’s happening so whatever. Just guesstimating loosely gauging quantity of talented enough players. Heck…get rid of one team each division would be fantastic. They’ll add more if anything…not wasted much on that thought

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4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why do we keep rehashing this crap?

Because I was deceitfully misquoted. Pretty key specific about getting Jalen Carter makes the trade difference. But yeah I’m moving on…

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

His opinion was showing the actual players and their pay... this way we can see why they make those numbers... putting name to number....not theory without the actual facts.

No…it was about who are the best two outside CBs. Which may..or may not be DeJean. I’m skeptical. Think he has much to learn to catch up at that position. Plus I like Ringo. He works for me. Big and fast…got some experience. He could have easily have been involved much more this whole time. Got Adoree too.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

His opinion was showing the actual players and their pay... this way we can see why they make those numbers... putting name to number....not theory without the actual facts.

Not sure which you are referring here? But didn’t see names.

20 hours ago, mattwill said:

Your prejudice is showing through. The evidence for that is that:

the #1 CB is being paid $30 million per year,

the #6 CB is being paid $20 million,

the #11 CB is being paid $19 million,

the #16 CB is being paid $18 million,

the #21 CB is being paid $13 million,

the #26 CB is being paid $12 million,

the #31 CB is being paid $10 million,

the #36 CB is being paid $7.5 million,

the #41 CB is being paid $5.5 million,

the #46 CB is being paid $3.8 million,

the #51 CB is being paid $3.5 million,

the #56 CB is being paid $3.25 million,

the #61 CB is being paid $3 million, and

the #66 CB is being paid $2.5 million.

That is 32 teams worth of 2 starting CBs. What is the NFL ”pay scale” that describes that wide distribution of annual pay.

And yes, the problem is you projecting an issue where there is no issue. The free market is working just fine.

No names here…just generic CB. Hey next we can list DBs and pay. Nothing break things down more specific than that. Then we can list all that qualify as football player by salary rank. Why not more pretty irrelevant deep dive into nothing? But at least was a solid attempt since he can only just avoid almost all facts over years stating otherwise.

Other issue I have is all two starting CBs. When three CBs start on every team in the league. Percentages of Nickel usage can’t be denied. With Dime next. Probably just part of all that lingering old school thinking. Slot isn’t a starter and isn’t t nearly as valued. Brady did a masterful job displaying the Slot role can play in any O.

See the weak Slot pay is driving out talented Slot players. Ceedy Duce plays S…not weak elite Slot pay. DeJean driven outside. Fangio battling it though.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Congrats you achieved a new high in STUPID

It was your statement…which practically meant absolutely nothing. But alluded to play DeJean over Ringo outside it seemed. Yet DeJean might not be betted than Ringo outside. I’m actually fairly confident right now Ringo is better. Not sure if Fangio has the power to yank DeJean for Ringo full time outside. Only way he can is just don’t call two CB Ds.

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When the TIME COMES Howie will make him an offer, He can accept it or leave. No different for anyone else. Let HOWIE worry about it because YOU HAVE NO SAY, NONE ZERO ZIP. Like I said go bang on Lurie's door and tell him you can do better than Howie. Just ridiculous the carrying on and WHINING. We'll all be looking forward to your first Presser

That offer and it’s acceptance will be based on what the rest of the league offering in comparison. But yeah..am kind of whining…this situation pissing me off and messing with our team. Just like Tanner should have been number two but we got stuck committed to Pickett as backup. Now feels like we already committed to DeJean gets his snaps outside this season. Fangio/agent agreed upon compromise.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

You may think/believe it is a good way for it to be described, but it is a false and inaccurate way for it to be described.

Think of it this way, someone reading your posts in this forum may believe that Mork from Ork is a good way to describe you. Does the fact that they believe that make it either true or accurate?

Because Mork sat on his head....the analogy of having your brain in your arse? Is that why you used that analogy for Ham? Not bad

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then your D is undisciplined and a drop on offense has zero to do with the defenses job. You could argue they were "gassed" in which case that means the O was not doing THEIR jobs long before the 1 drop

They weren’t gassed. O had just long drive down to the 17 killing the clock. Call it what you wish. Shouldn’t happen to those levels with pros. But…it sure did. Momentum does play a role…can’t ignore it exists. But I agree with just how embarrassing that was from our D. About as bad as Saquan’s drop. Players were looking at Saquan near god levels though….just not how you call that by Siri. It works …with a catch though..give him that. I was actually praising Siri all the way up until that. It really seemed like Siri knew what he was doing forcing ATL TOs. Just right when it mattered and the clock now would run…he didn’t run the clock. Great setup all the way up until why he should have been focused and doing all that in the first place. It should have been because going for it on fourth down the whole time. Two straight runs. They weren’t stopping us…so no need to get cute there anyway. Even if they did…would have actually left us in a more favorable position with less points(not even going all in explains a this too you)

41 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When the TIME COMES Howie will make him an offer, He can accept it or leave. No different for anyone else. Let HOWIE worry about it because YOU HAVE NO SAY, NONE ZERO ZIP. Like I said go bang on Lurie's door and tell him you can do better than Howie. Just ridiculous the carrying on and WHINING. We'll all be looking forward to your first Presser

But the time we are being forced to deal with it is now

32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The NFL doesn't care what you would like

No doubt…they sure don’t want the Eagles running a dynasty on the league. Fighting so hard against us. So desperate…..

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I admit exaggerating Niners run there. But was still pretty impressive whole organization compared to most any other teams. Not us and the Chiefs. But easy to say 25 other teams Weren’t as good as the Niners there. Just threw out random number seemed close. So no…I’m not technically going v through team by team last several years accomplishments.

Because then you would have to look at the facts and see where " Rosie" falls in place when comparing.

You will never admit he is a top if not the best at his position. You just can't do it. The agenda was locked ...never going to happen even though the consensus opinion around the league, around the media ...is he is the top executive in the NFL.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But is a trait of getting the best out of a QB that can’t win a championship a great skill? It’s useful…but ceiling of your Bronze Standard.

Which coach do you think players prefer to play for? Did thr Eagles ever have a player quit right in the middle of the game and refuse to go in?

Did the Eagles ever choke and lose a lead in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl? Completely doing nothing on offense?

Siri all day over the coach in SF. Not close as a head coach. The job is head coach, not offensive coordinator.

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What statement? Your posts run amok all over the place. A DB playing CB is not even close to a RB playing DT please

So what does get your best players on the field even mean then? You said it. Taking your statement would mean get Saquan out there on D. Best player..on field. What was amok was that nonsense statementt really meant absolutely nothing. But yeah just pointing out all the nonsense.

Maybe you can reword your statement to better represent your feelings.

But really think you just jumping the gun anointing DeJean as great and best outside CB. Which no way you can really know much about DeJean outside abilities and preparedness.

When we were discussing that draft with TD123 loving DeJean. My big question was can he play outside? Thoughts were Coop was a first round selection. So because of the positional unbalance..Slot CB worth less. So I was trying to get you both to sign off on whether he could play outside or not ..to be worthy of a first round selection.

My guy was Q obviously…but I didn’t think we’d still get him so late. Obviously I thought super high of Q…he didn’t disappoint either.

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Because then you would have to look at the facts and see where " Rosie" falls in place when comparing.

You will never admit he is a top if not the best at his position. You just can't do it. The agenda was locked ...never going to happen even though the consensus opinion around the league, around the media ...is he is the top executive in the NFL.

I did say Rosie was the best…just for me doesn’t automatically equal perfect. Really just happy Rosie just did all I’ve been wanting here for so long. Get the big RB, get the LB …and DBs… this all obviously I felt was holding us back..or Rosie back more specifically. Especially hiring Fangio. Qualified coach who’s earned personnel controls. All the stuff you pickup following our team all these years with Rosie.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like I said…I don’t stake any claims to be any expert on the subject. I could look into it. I prefer to really form conclusions based on gathering enough information to do so. How I believed it was viewed. Not even say I’m wrong…just not going to pretend I’m 100 percent confident. Actually thought I helped you out there with what you were saying.

Exclusively 32 teams in the closed NFL league system, I believe technically changes whether it could be considered a free market.

Regarding your bolded statement, that is a tried and true method for forming an opinion, but all it is is an opinion. It isn’t fact, only what is rolling around in that labyrinth that is your brain.

You cross the line of acceptable behavior into antisocial behavior in two ways. (1) you don’t accept the opinions of others, while simultaneously rejecting their opinions, and (2) you don’t share the quantitative research that you used to form your opinion(s). All you provide are qualitative musings about the opinion itself… over and over and over again.

There is a third anti social behavior you exhibit. You are constantly measuring the size of your pecker, and then broadcasting that pecker size for all to hear.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Brought a grin to me just knowing how much that had to hurt you to deny that absolutely brutal opinion you had then. Worse than just manning up and owning it to me…but to each their own. We all win is what’s great about it. Think you’re happy you were wrong and we won another Championship.

I actually not even sure where you stand about Hurts right now this offseason? We know you aren’t thinking he can’t win the Lombardi at least.

Don't have to deny anything with you...as I said, I don't think you lie at all....I absolutely believe you live on your planet and interpret things how you want. .. you can’t ever be wrong when you have that mentality.

I say, it's nice we don't take 33 seconds to get to the line of scrimmage and the media was talking about how the Eagles used a remote control car to simulate motion at a period where offense vs defense wasn't allowed on the field at the same time.... your interpretation...

" Chip is No Mas's boy"

It is what it is... you don't think like a normal human being. I can't do anything about it.

I believe to this day that you still have no clue why the Eagles were looked at when they signed Barkley. Why Atlanta was penalized.

You spin the subject to something completely unrelated..it's what you do.

Do I think you believe me or GB or anyone else actually said things.....sure it's absolutely possible... the way your mind works and how you don't pay attention to other people's posts...I wouldn't doubt anything you believe.

That's why I don't think you ever lie... you actually have to know stuff to lie.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I admit exaggerating Niners run there. But was still pretty impressive whole organization compared to most any other teams. Not us and the Chiefs. But easy to say 25 other teams Weren’t as good as the Niners there. Just threw out random number seemed close. So no…I’m not technically going v through team by team last several years accomplishments.

The history of the accomplishments of the 49ers organization is indeed impressive, but the original point you made was about John Lynch as a GM. The FACTS are that the vast majority of those organizational accomplishments happened before Lynch became GM, so they are irrelevant to the point you made about Lynch.

Bottom-line, when confronted with the errors of your original point/assertion, you attempted to change the subject to weasel out of admitting your error.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why do we keep rehashing this crap?

Because CGJ was a victim. His car was stolen. Don't you remember???

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The goal is win championships. On that don’t think Lynch did his job. Flawed team…hard to say just how far the not winning a championship characteristics are embedded there. Lynch…might be one isn’t doing it. Shannahan could make a case against him. Of course the case for such overachieving overcoming the QB he’s clearly displayed beyond question.

Bottom-line, Lynch isn’t the god-like GM you asserted him to be.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They weren’t always so evened up. Heck two divisions in each conference I’d be fine with. They really seemed to realign and make 8 divisions targeting Manning and Brady setup. Made sure those two were sandbag divisions.

It's amazing how the popularity of the league took off with the 32 team league ...8 divisions of teams ...making it all even.

But let's create a cluster F÷÷× now by changing things that have made the league so profitable?

Now as an Eagles fan let's complain the league is watered-down...but it was OK when the agenda was how great Andy Reid is.

The league is suffering because teams aren't patient in rebuilding... they rush and fail... or don’t set it up for longevity.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually want four less. But no way that’s happening so whatever. Just guesstimating loosely gauging quantity of talented enough players. Heck…get rid of one team each division would be fantastic. They’ll add more if anything…not wasted much on that thought

There could easily be four or even eight more rather than four less. Just look at the largest television markets list. #4 is Toronto. #12 is Montreal. #22 is Vancouver. #20 is Orlando. #23 is Sacramento. #26 is Portland. #24 is St. Louis. #31 is San Diego. #37 is Salt Lake City. #36 is San Antonio. Lots of TV households to tap into there. Lots of additional revenue.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Attempt #5 or 9 or 14 TANNER WAS UNPROVEN BEFORE THE START OF THE SEASON-memorize this

He’s looked the part the entire time. Tanner is better but unproven. So we needed to concrete guarantee a QB proven not that great.

55 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Because then you would have to look at the facts and see where " Rosie" falls in place when comparing.

You will never admit he is a top if not the best at his position. You just can't do it. The agenda was locked ...never going to happen even though the consensus opinion around the league, around the media ...is he is the top executive in the NFL.

It’s a ton breaking down one GM …much less every GM. I pretty much reply about any moves Rosie makes.