13 hours ago, mattwill said:

There was no put down. None overt nor implied. You clearly inferred one where there is/was none. Different strokes for different folks. Some people spend most of their time in "the library” often to their detriment when it comes to experiencing feelings. Other people spend much more time "downstairs” where the feelings are warm and exciting. It takes all kinds to make a village.

I try and make it a habit to walk in the shoes of the folks I interact with. Those daily journeys provide and produce plenty of opportunity for observation. I shared my observation with Joe. It had no judgment, just shared observation. I’m sorry that it triggered you. I’ve always lived by the belief that it’s not whether you win or lose, but how you played the game that mattered. My proudest moment as a high school wrestler came in a bout at the New York Athletic Club where I got pinned by my opponent in the Second Period. It was a great triumph to have made it out of the First Period without being flattened. No matter how anyone cut it, it was a loss … a decisive loss. But I knew I had done my very best, and my teammates did too. He was after all an Olympic bronze medalist at the just completed Olympics.

Regarding leaving, you’ll just have to put up with me and my eccentricities. I suspect this won’t be the last time I trigger you with my "library” talk.

14 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

This offends me . It's been a LOOOOOONG road to get here, that is "short term" to you? I didn't become a fan in 2017 like those "fair weather" fans. Now we FINALLY have all the right people in all the right places and we have a shot at repeating and indeed that is SHORT TERM. Why would I NOT be excited for this opportunity? Would you prefer we trash/ tank this season to get better draft picks???? Because it's a longer term outlook? You strike when the iron is hot. NON bloggers are still FANS and I don't appreciate your implication that I am something LESS because I am not a blogger. Very disrespectful of you. Don't tell me about fan sufferings since I lived in the Cleveland zone for a long time and gave up on them(Browns) because they never COULD get their act together. I really DON'T feel like suffering for another 35 years(I don't have the time anyhow) and still supporting this team for whatever amount of time you deem "long term". If you feel we are unworthy of you, maybe you should hang out on the blog site and leave us peons to our page. I'm really not in the mood for being put down, since being a LOSING FAN since 1971(other than 2017 and the losing appearance by McNabb and company). I think I've suffered enough like all the fans have . BLOG all you want, it doesn't make you better than me and I find your post extremely bothersome. I didn't go to Wharton, I can't do spreadsheets, I am no comp whiz but your blood is no greener than mine. Have a nice day

Excuse me, but doesn't this dialouge belong in "Rant and Rage"?

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I will be watching this kid

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Kenyon-Sadiq-TE-Oregon

My choice is #2 on the TE list: Joe Royer

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If you are a team that feels it needs a starting QB... normally that team would invest it's first round pick to get him.

If a team sees McKee as a starter... not just to get him to try out. Then they would invest that same pick. The year won't matter...it's a QB, you either have one or not.

If they don't see McKee as the probable solution, then they won't invest a first round pick...in any year.

So this silly idea or innuendo of 2026 second Round pick or a 2027 1st ....isn't really realistic.

You are conducting your assessment through the lens of 100% certainty. 100% certainty does not exist in the National Football League.

There is always a certain amount of risk/uncertainty associated with all NFL decisions. So, a team can be convinced that a specific player is going to succeed as their starting quarterback, but there is a real possibility that things won’t go as expected. The player could be not as good as the team expected him to be. The player could get injured. There are all sorts of risk factors. In the case of McKee, one of the risk factors is the small number of NFL starts that he has. A team can, in concept, be relatively convinced that he’s going to succeed, but that small number of starts injects a higher level of risk than if he had 15 starts.

Another factor that affects value is contract status.

If risk/uncertainty is zero and the contract status is good, then the value is indeed a 1st Round pick in the current year. As the risk/uncertainty rises above zero the 1st Round pick value gets devalued.

In the case of McKee the general opinion is that the current year 1st valuation is knocked down to a 2nd Round pick. For some teams, the devaluation is steep enough that they wouldn’t surrender anything more than a 3rd.

Matt... you got beat up a lot as a kid? Just curious?

That aside.... if I was another team I wouldn't offer higher than a 2026 3rd for McKee. If im the Eagles, im not taking anything other than a 2026 1st.

So ... I don't see a trade. Really ready to move on... but similar to Ham....you go off on a tangent and don't answer.... what do you want to happen with McKee?

E=MC2.... if tree falls in the forest with nobody there.... let's put that aside, you can discuss that with the elite bloggers.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

How can I put it simple.... I'm not F@@#ing up the team chemistry or the salary cap ... for 1 2nd round pick.... certainly not anything in 2027 or 2028

We don't need to change anything, this is the first legit attempt to repeat as a champion.... since 1949... 2027 and 28 drafts can wait

I’d say Rosie kind of screwed things up if he’s passing down any offers like that for McKee. Should have kept Pickett if that was the case.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say Rosie kind of screwed things up if he’s passing down any offers like that for McKee. Should have kept Pickett if that was the case.

I honestly was thinking that trade was there to be made with Moore accepting the Saints job. Especially once the Carr news broke. Made so much more sense for them to have traded for McKee than drafted their QB high like they did. Biggest attraction with their QB drafted was supposedly more NFL transition ready than other draftees. But really might refer a bit towards he’s already closer to his ceiling.

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Matt... you got beat up a lot as a kid? Just curious?

That aside.... if I was another team I wouldn't offer higher than a 2026 3rd for McKee. If im the Eagles, im not taking anything other than a 2026 1st.

So ... I don't see a trade. Really ready to move on... but similar to Ham....you go off on a tangent and don't answer.... what do you want to happen with McKee?

E=MC2.... if tree falls in the forest with nobody there.... let's put that aside, you can discuss that with the elite bloggers.

I stated my position on that approximately 48 hours ago. I’ll go back and bring it forward for you. You must not have read it.

Edit: it was actually 96 hours ago.

On 7/11/2025 at 4:00 PM, mattwill said:

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

@joemas6 it was actually 96 hours ago.

Here’s an interesting take. How do you rank the importance of QB versus O-Line versus Defense

10 hours ago, Freshmilk said:

QBs are important, but I think offensive line is the most important factor in winning, followed by having a good defense. A great QB can't overcome having a poor oline and/or a bottom 10 defense. The majority of the teams fall in this bucket, regardless of the quality of the QB. Again, Mahomes has been his own bucket for a while.

The Eagles broke scoring records in the NFC championship and SB combined, not because they had the best QB, but because they had the best oline and defense. In fact, many people picked against the Eagles throughout the playoffs and SB simply because they felt that QBs were the deciding factor, completely ignoring that the Eagles had a top 3 oline, top defense, top running game, top 3 WR/TE group. Howie has known for years the importance of the oline, he's finally come to understand the importance of a great defense rather than just a great defensive line. He knows those two units drive winning in the NFL.

40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Matt... you got beat up a lot as a kid? Just curious?

Nope. Anyone who thought about it knew I was a wrestler and could thump them.

Over the last 3 seasons Jalen Hurts id 14-1 Against the AFC in the regular season

Who is the only AFC QB Hurts has lost to?

If anybody involved with our organization believes we are playing with ‘house money’ this season? Need to replace that guy.

On 7/14/2025 at 3:05 PM, joemas6 said:

So I took a quick glance at those 3 trades.... the 1995 and 1996 trades were both made by the Chargers. A little desperation there.

The 2009 trade between Denver and Seattle ended up giving Seattle Earl Thomas in 2010.

Bobby Beathard specials.

12 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Over the last 3 seasons Jalen Hurts id 14-1 Against the AFC in the regular season

Who is the only AFC QB Hurts has lost to?

Jets

12 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Over the last 3 seasons Jalen Hurts id 14-1 Against the AFC in the regular season

Who is the only AFC QB Hurts has lost to?

Hurts got injured in that game. That was a good question..

I don’t remember who the QB was…I’ll guess Darnold

Very interesting to consider Siri’s approach and circumstances going into this season. So very different!

53 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If anybody involved with our organization believes we are playing with ‘house money’ this season? Need to replace that guy.

Do you understand what "playing with house money” means?

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t remember who the QB was…I’ll guess Darnold

Zack Wilson

Joe, this is why accumulating Draft picks is a necessary evil.

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Hopefully everyone understands why Howie didn't keep any of the notebale FA this year and traded away CJGJ now. The money needed to keep this young defense together is going to be staggering.

Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, Jordan Davis, Reed Blankenship, Moro Ojomo, Kelee Ringo and Nakobe Dean all need contracts in a year or two. Dean is the biggest question mark, but you can argue for all of them to be brought back.

Cooper DeJean and Quinyon Mitchell will get there's like you said, but they can hopefully stagger those two.

Howie needs to absolutely nail WR and TE over the next two drafts. Hate to say it, but in order to keep the young defense together, they might have to do a slow turnover at the skill positions with AJ and DeVonta when it's time to sign the rest. Time will tell but Howie has built an incredible team. How much of it can he keep together?

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Zack Wilson

Good one…you got me there

Still riding the SUPER BOWL high! Wear my Super Bowl Champions hat to every golf course I go to….headed to British Columbia Canada next week for a 7 day golf trip! E-A-G-L-E-S

So freaking cool!!!!

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

Joe, this is why accumulating Draft picks is a necessary evil.

WE HAVE 13 DRAFT PICSK NEXT YEAR.... THAT'S 2 DRAFTS! YOU CAN'T ACCUMULATE EVERY YEAR THAT MANY AS THERE ISN;T ENOUGH ROSTER SPACE.

Look at how you are already planning for losing so many on cuts this year. Do ALL of the 3 OL and Keegan make the team this year? 4 OL drafted... already McMahan was cut last year... 5 OL Drafted the last 2 years... how many make the team? 2 more LBs drafted this year on top of Trotter last year.

So many draft picks... plus UDFAs

Again.... you have to look at roster building differently at each stage.... 13 picks after 10 this year ... already having a young roster... those young guys will have development. Contracts, I'm not worried about... Carter will get the big one. I'm not expecting Ojomo, Ringo or Dean to break the bank lol... Dean is 90% gone after this year unless he comes back on a cheap prove it 5th year

And again... WHY DO YOU MISS THE POINT OF ....IF THESE GUYS LEAVE THEN WE GET COMP PICKS!!! We accumulate comps picks just with the normal business of being where we are now with the roster... we won't need trades. There is no " necessary evil"

I don't think people understand this exact position we are with our roster because we have never been here before.

We won a championship last year while being on the way up... not already at the top or on the way down. We have a very young team. The 2023 draft class... going into year 3....

Carter = starter

Smith = starter

Steen = projected starter

Brown = would need a rookie to beat him out as a starter

Ringo = projected starter

McKee = #2 QB

Ojomo = #3 or 4 DT, plenty of playing time

But on top of that, studs locked in long term .... LT, LG, C all young

Both WRs = young

The RT and RB are locked in 2 or 3 more years.

The LBs are all young except for Baun who is locked in 3 more years

Safeties ALL young

CBs all young

DTs = Davis going into year 4 has team option year 5, Carter and Ojomo are year 3, Robinson a rookie

DE = Smith year 3, Hunt year 2.

When in Eagles history has the roster been this young? Then when has it been this successful, coming off of 2 SB appearances in the last 3 years? This combo of youth and success, while still being built... NEVER have we been in this stage before. I think some people have been programmed to play GM a certain way because we have never been in this situation before. Usually we are looking for free agents to add due to a million holes or aging starters... or the lack of leadership/ winning culture. There is none of that now... and none of that should be here for a few more seasons.

If anything is " house money" it's every draft pick after DeJean stepping up to get serious playing time. 9 picks last year, so 7 after DeJean, 10 picks this year... and 13 on the nooks for next year.

That's a projected 30 draft picks that we will have in 9 months time, that would be selected after our 22 year old DeJean.

If you want to not put Hunt in there... that's still 29 picks after him. we will have that in 9 months.

Which team will have that many picks in such short time.... while already being at the top?

With 29 picks... other than Campbell and possibly the safety we drafted round 2 along with addressing TE... we may not even have a need for a starter.... that's crazy! That is what one can say is " house money"

If we lose players after this year and next year... that adds comp picks to 2027 and 2028 drafts. More " house money"

So, why the need to worry about 2027 and 2028 drafts and trading for more picks .... is there really a " need" You could argue strategy there would be drafting less but making sure we hit the targets, like 2018 and 2022 ... 5 players each draft... Goedert, Maddox, Sweat, Pryor, Mailata and Davis, Jurgens, Dean, Kyron Johnson , Calcaterra. ... easily could argue that would be a better strategy than another year with double digit picks in a row!