July 12, 2025Jul 12 2 hours ago, joemas6 said:Wow...you are already thinking about a 2027 draft pick.... again my point....it's tough for some people to understand th3 position of being a contender and staying put. Already designating a draft pick 2 years from now... it's a little obsessive and silly. 2 seasons are going to be played before then.....as contenders. Lots of stuff can change.You are approaching your thought process as an either/or choice. I believe it is both/and rather than either/or. This team is going to be a powerful contender no matter who QB2 is. Further, if you could buy a 1st Round pick for $5 million, how quickly would you write the check?
July 12, 2025Jul 12 2 hours ago, joemas6 said:Salary cap implicationsSalary cap implications go out the window if you can (effectively) purchase an additional 1st Round pick for $5 million.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Like Foles he's not going to get that unless Hurts(see Wentz) goes down for an extended time. McKee looked plenty fine when he played his one game, so that question becomes moot until Hurts goes out(which I hope doesn't happen). McKee has a better squad than Foles ever had. So there is no way to tell, but McKee looks alot better than Foles did. Foles was a game manager like Hurts, with McKee your passing game opens up quite a bitFoles got it early in his career, long before Wentz was ever drafted. You are correct that McKee won't get the opportunity that Foles did back in 2013 without an injury to the starter... but to put McKee higher than Foles is a case of putting the cart before the horse. You can project it as a possibility, but you cannot say that McKee's actual play can match what Foles did here in 2013 and 2014. The squad around McKee, were he to be called upon, being better than the surrounding cast Foles had actually works against your argument. And calling Foles a game manager.... yeah, ok. I don't think you remember what Foles did here. QBs don't go 27-2 as a game manager, nor do they throw 7 TDs in a single game as a game manager. Nor do they out duel Tom Brady in the Super Bowl... as a game manager. 45 career passing attempts, in just over 5 quarters of play against 2 of the worst pass defenses in the NFL last year in garbage time, when neither had anything to play for.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Tanner went 4-0. If you extended that out it would be 28-0. We all know picks happen, still he is comparable or better on the stat page and I see no reason he would "chicken out" in a playoff gameYou do understand that you can't extrapolate stats like that and get any kind of meaningful information from it, especially considering the caliber of opponent that McKee faced in those 5+ quarters of NFL football he played.No one said that he'd "chicken out" in a playoff game, but you can't say that he'll rise to the moment either. Even prior to 2017 season, Foles had a playoff start and came off the field the final time with the lead against the Saints. Sadly, the defense allowed the Saints to run out the clock and get the winning FG in the final 5 minutes. But, we've never seen McKee play from behind in an NFL game. That's a very different thing, let alone in the playoffs. McKee's never done it. We don't know how he'll perform in a moment like that. We can pretend we know, or believe that we can project how he'd handle it... but no one knows, not even him, until he faces that obstacle.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Well in any case, we know Howie will figure it out. McKee is rolling and I see no reason to nip that in the bud. Not too worried about it at this point. Let's get through the season hopefully unscathedI’m greedy, a trait shared by the Blog posters who responded, and want the current season result to be another SB win AND the future to avoid a crash. The only way to avoid that crash is to arm Howie with replacement resources.All the above is just my opinion. I’m not saying my opinion is right, and I respect the win-now perspective you and Joe and Ham have articulated. I’m just greedy enough (and a 77 years, old enough) to want my cake and eat it too.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:Why is it either or? Why can't we win now and keep that going through the draft and acqusitions. We lost ALOT of top notch players,but here we are contending like nothing happenedWe can, but not with just the standard seven picks per year. Look at the current roster. So many of the players were added through acquired picks.One of the keys to Howie’s success in the Draft is the leverage he has had thanks to the additional picks he has gone into the Draft with.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Hurts does,except on the ground. Both are GAME MANAGERS IMO. neither would qualify for the "air Coryelle" awardAre there really only two types of QBs … Air Coryell or Game Manager?What type of QB is Lamar Jackson?
July 12, 2025Jul 12 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Well so far he is keeping that going and I really see no reason that won't continue. 7 picks a year is enough if you get the right players. We retain players for less because they CHOOSE to play here as most FA"s would also. So we're on top of the food chain ATMYou and I will have to agree to disagree that the standard seven picks is enough. If Howie was playing only with the standard seven, we wouldn’t have Jalen Carter, or Slim Reaper, or Cooper DeJean just to name a few players.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:Those are the spectrum ends, most fall between those. Jackson is a gifted runner AND passerIs being a gifted runner an Air Coryell trait or a Game Manager trait?
July 12, 2025Jul 12 9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:You do understand he played with the 2's and still put up big numbers vs the opponents 1's. Foles never had to play with the 2's in meaningful games. I'm not bashing Foles, he pulled off the impossible(with help from the D). I merely believe if McKee played with the 1's there would be no drop off in production. Different play calls for him since Hurts legs would be gone for sure. But he scored with Dotson as his #1. Put him in with AJ,Smitty and the rest of the 1's and I see NP at allMcKee hasn't had to play in meaningful games at all yet... so its all projection. Have at it.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author 4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:I agree 7 is not enough if you are .500 team, but we re-signed those guys that matter. 7 picks is enough to replace them 1 by one over the span of a few years. We even have some UDFA's that make this squad Assuming you draft correctly in rounds 1,2,3 you can't replace enough guys? How many guy retire every year. of course having more than 7 is always better, but how often do we see Howie trading DOWN? Those 7 picks can turn into 8,9,10. Howie rarely stays putThis year we saw him trade back and take round 5 guys. He got the 2 he wanted and hit the FA market for others
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author So,IMO 7 picks is enough and you hit the FA market like Howie does and it's fine, but normally those 7 picks turn into more anyhow
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author 21 minutes ago, mattwill said:We can, but not with just the standard seven picks per year. Look at the current roster. So many of the players were added through acquired picks.One of the keys to Howie’s success in the Draft is the leverage he has had thanks to the additional picks he has gone into the Draft with.Sure,how we got AJ and we snapped up Dotson. So 7 draft picks should be enough along with your FA acquisitions. Remember long ago when the draft was more than 7 rounds?
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36180094/when-did-nfl-draft-change-seven-rounds FWIW
July 12, 2025Jul 12 28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:I agree 7 is not enough if you are .500 team, but we re-signed those guys that matter. 7 picks is enough to replace them 1 by one over the span of a few years. We even have some UDFA's that make this squad Assuming you draft correctly in rounds 1,2,3 you can't replace enough guys? How many guy retire every year. of course having more than 7 is always better, but how often do we see Howie trading DOWN? Those 7 picks can turn into 8,9,10. Howie rarely stays putI agree that in 2026 seven picks is enough. But 2026 is not a "normal” year. Look at the expiring contracts list for after the 2026 season and after the 2027 season. The number of players is high and the leverage of the positions of those players is high. There will be Williams/Sweat/Rodgers departures from that list, and expecting rookies to plug and play like Mitchell and DeJean and Hunt did is very optimistic. Proactivity is what will reduce the pain from those transitions.JMO
July 12, 2025Jul 12 30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:So,IMO 7 picks is enough and you hit the FA market like Howie does and it's fine, but normally those 7 picks turn into more anyhowWe’ll just have to agree to disagree.
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author 10 minutes ago, mattwill said:I agree that in 2026 seven picks is enough. But 2026 is not a "normal” year. Look at the expiring contracts list for after the 2026 season and after the 2027 season. The number of players is high and the leverage of the positions of those players is high. There will be Williams/Sweat/Rodgers departures from that list, and expecting rookies to plug and play like Mitchell and DeJean and Hunt did is very optimistic. Proactivity is what will reduce the pain from those transitions.JMOHowie will be on it, Not too worried
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author 10 minutes ago, mattwill said:We’ll just have to agree to disagree.Welp 7 is by NFL rules,so teams have to deal with it,but as I said Howie usually turns those 7 into 8,9,10,so it's not 7 anyhow
July 12, 2025Jul 12 Author https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-eagles-hidden-gem-without-a-job-deserves-a-training-camp-invite/ar-AA1IsLWG Could be a nice CYA move. he was here once so he knows the drill
July 12, 2025Jul 12 23 hours ago, mattwill said:Who would be the "rookie or other player who steps up” that would make Adoree expendable?Just scroll through the roster of all these young DBs. AJ Wood, McMillan, Eli Ricks, Parry Nickerson…Brandon Johnson is a good one potentially.
July 13, 2025Jul 13 One must appreciate that the Eagles hierarchy has developed an overall strategy - both short and long term.Short term objective: maximize the chances to win the next Super Bowl without sacrificing future seasons.Long Term objective: maintain a core of talented and motivated players that can produce for multiple years under contract.The current group (including coaching staff) is highly viewed as favored to return to the next Super Bowl. Most trained observers would assess that the Eagles did a good, if not masterfull, job of putting together a competitive roster for 2025. There are not many roster positions that are questionable.Looking beyond 2025, there are several expiring contracts over the next 2-3 years to be concerned about - but within reason of being addressed. Lane will probably retire in 2 or 3 years. Dallas Goedert may or may not be re-signed for a few more years. Other than that, there don't appear to be any imminent needs to be addressed.The nucleus of the defense is almost entirely playing on their initial rookie contracts. Tight End is the only critical position to be addressed on offense (7 free agents).We don't simply do a one-for-one swap of rookie draft picks for free agents and retiring veterans. No, we sign high-value free agents, over-looked undrafted free agents, one-year prove-it retreds and various practice squad/developmenal players - not to mention the occasional player swap. The point is, there are multiple avenues for roster-building each season...but what do I know?Concerning draft selections beyond 2026: We nominally are talking about 13 picks - 8 of which fall on day #3. Would anyone here object to trading a 5th-round pick in 2026 for a 4th -rounder in 2027? Perhaps we could trade a 4th, 5th and a 7th for a 2nd in 2028? Would anyone object to either?
July 13, 2025Jul 13 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:Just scroll through the roster of all these young DBs. AJ Wood, McMillan, Eli Ricks, Parry Nickerson…Brandon Johnson is a good one potentially.That’s a lazy, throw-spit-balls-at-the-wall approach to answering the question. You would be much more honest if you simply said, "I don’t know WTF I’m talking about. Just blowing gas out my ass.”
July 13, 2025Jul 13 36 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:One must appreciate that the Eagles hierarchy has developed an overall strategy - both short and long term.Short term objective: maximize the chances to win the next Super Bowl without sacrificing future seasons.Long Term objective: maintain a core of talented and motivated players that can produce for multiple years under contract.The current group (including coaching staff) is highly viewed as favored to return to the next Super Bowl. Most trained observers would assess that the Eagles did a good, if not masterfull, job of putting together a competitive roster for 2025. There are not many roster positions that are questionable.Looking beyond 2025, there are several expiring contracts over the next 2-3 years to be concerned about - but within reason of being addressed. Lane will probably retire in 2 or 3 years. Dallas Goedert may or may not be re-signed for a few more years. Other than that, there don't appear to be any imminent needs to be addressed.The nucleus of the defense is almost entirely playing on their initial rookie contracts. Tight End is the only critical position to be addressed on offense (7 free agents).We don't simply do a one-for-one swap of rookie draft picks for free agents and retiring veterans. No, we sign high-value free agents, over-looked undrafted free agents, one-year prove-it retreds and various practice squad/developmenal players - not to mention the occasional player swap. The point is, there are multiple avenues for roster-building each season...but what do I know?Concerning draft selections beyond 2026: We nominally are talking about 13 picks - 8 of which fall on day #3. Would anyone here object to trading a 5th-round pick in 2026 for a 4th -rounder in 2027? Perhaps we could trade a 4th, 5th and a 7th for a 2nd in 2028? Would anyone object to either?I wouldn’t object at all. The graphic below shows the trade history of the 13 likely picks. A lot of wiggle room.
July 13, 2025Jul 13 56 minutes ago, mattwill said:I wouldn’t object at all. The graphic below shows the trade history of the 13 likely picks. A lot of wiggle room.Thanks Matt...do you have spreadsheets to work from? Nice effort. 👍I'd be content with a 5th for a future 4th almost anyday.
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