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37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again...I think you fail to read my posts. " Could it happen? Absolutely," That means it could happen... its nice to see 30 years where 10 trades.... and the first 3 involve swapping this year's #1 for next years (not a 2nd round pick) with the last 2 of the trades actually taking TWO years to get the return ... so you showed 5 trades in the middle there .... 30 years .... out of those 5, two of those trades also involved another pick.

So, you are the research man ... if you take the 3 occurrences above....

2009 swapping pick 37

1996 swapping pick 41

1995 swapping pick 51

It would be curious to see the teams involved at the time and the rosters / picks that each team had. Or if there were any players involved in addition to those picks.

But good quality research showing 3 occasions where this happened in the last 30 years, absolutely verifies my " Could it happen, absolutely" comment. Nice to see when other posters are able to find proof to back up my points.

That is all I’ve been saying all along it could happen. Nothing more nothing less. You interjected 100% and now you appear to be backing off from that so bottom line we’re in agreement it could happen. The second could be worth a first.

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Great contract!

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

That is all I’ve been saying all along it could happen. Nothing more nothing less. You interjected 100% and now you appear to be backing off from that so bottom line we’re in agreement it could happen. The second could be worth a first.

Probably reading first would help.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Probably reading first would help.

My position was explained from the beginning and hasn't changed.

I understand. My position was equally clear. It would have been simpler if we just accepted each others differing opinions and moved on. It felt like you were rejecting my opinion, as well as covering two different concepts simultaneously.

We also get crosswise cause you tend to think monogamously and I tend to think polygamously

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

I understand. My position was equally clear. It would have been simpler if we just accepted each others differing opinions and moved on. It felt like you were rejecting my opinion, as well as covering two different concepts simultaneously.

We also get crosswise cause you tend to think monogamously and I tend to think polygamously

Probably because you take offense when I said I didn't think something would happen... you skipped the part where it said it's possible. I was never cross at all

You asked my opinion... it would take a 2026 first round pick to consider trading away McKee... and yes I think that is way too high of value for him ... NOW on July 14, 2025.

How can I put it simple.... I'm not F@@#ing up the team chemistry or the salary cap ... for 1 2nd round pick.... certainly not anything in 2027 or 2028

We don't need to change anything, this is the first legit attempt to repeat as a champion.... since 1949... 2027 and 28 drafts can wait

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

How can I put it simple.... I'm not F@@#ing up the team chemistry or the salary cap ... for 1 2nd round pick.... certainly not anything in 2027 or 2028

We don't need to change anything, this is the first legit attempt to repeat as a champion.... since 1949... 2027 and 28 drafts can wait

In your observation about the Blog posters’ perspectives, they (and I) consistently think like GMs … with a goal of sustained high performance. You and GB and Ham all think like fans with short term accomplishment maximization prized much more than sustained high performance. Part of that difference is that a lot of the Blog posters are older than I believe you and Gb and Ham are. I’m one of three in the Blog born in 1947 and the three of us are younger than several other Bloggers. That means we have lived through only one winning season out of 16 years. And to paraphrase AI, "Playoffs? We talkin’ ‘bout Playoffs?”

So, this team is playing with house money. For me, a back-to-back SB win would be outstanding, but if it comes at the price of another 4-11-1 crash like the Eagles’ 2020 season … or a 5-12 like the Rams’ 2022, I’m not a buyer.


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9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

This offends me . It's been a LOOOOOONG road to get here, that is "short term" to you? I didn't become a fan in 2017 like those "fair weather" fans. Now we FINALLY have all the right people in all the right places and we have a shot at repeating and indeed that is SHORT TERM. Why would I NOT be excited for this opportunity? Would you prefer we trash/ tank this season to get better draft picks???? Because it's a longer term outlook? You strike when the iron is hot. NON bloggers are still FANS and I don't appreciate your implication that I am something LESS because I am not a blogger. Very disrespectful of you. Don't tell me about fan sufferings since I lived in the Cleveland zone for a long time and gave up on them(Browns) because they never COULD get their act together. I really DON'T feel like suffering for another 35 years(I don't have the time anyhow) and still supporting this team for whatever amount of time you deem "long term". If you feel we are unworthy of you, maybe you should hang out on the blog site and leave us peons to our page. I'm really not in the mood for being put down, since being a LOSING FAN since 1971(other than 2017 and the losing appearance by McNabb and company). I think I've suffered enough like all the fans have . BLOG all you want, it doesn't make you better than me and I find your post extremely bothersome. I didn't go to Wharton, I can't do spreadsheets, I am no comp whiz but your blood is no greener than mine. Have a nice day

There was no put down. None overt nor implied. You clearly inferred one where there is/was none. Different strokes for different folks. Some people spend most of their time in "the library” often to their detriment when it comes to experiencing feelings. Other people spend much more time "downstairs” where the feelings are warm and exciting. It takes all kinds to make a village.

I try and make it a habit to walk in the shoes of the folks I interact with. Those daily journeys provide and produce plenty of opportunity for observation. I shared my observation with Joe. It had no judgment, just shared observation. I’m sorry that it triggered you. I’ve always lived by the belief that it’s not whether you win or lose, but how you played the game that mattered. My proudest moment as a high school wrestler came in a bout at the New York Athletic Club where I got pinned by my opponent in the Second Period. It was a great triumph to have made it out of the First Period without being flattened. No matter how anyone cut it, it was a loss … a decisive loss. But I knew I had done my very best, and my teammates did too. He was after all an Olympic bronze medalist at the just completed Olympics.

Regarding leaving, you’ll just have to put up with me and my eccentricities. I suspect this won’t be the last time I trigger you with my "library” talk.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

In your observation about the Blog posters’ perspectives, they (and I) consistently think like GMs … with a goal of sustained high performance. You and GB and Ham all think like fans with short term accomplishment maximization prized much more than sustained high performance. Part of that difference is that a lot of the Blog posters are older than I believe you and Gb and Ham are. I’m one of three in the Blog born in 1947 and the three of us are younger than several other Bloggers. That means we have lived through only one winning season out of 16 years. And to paraphrase AI, "Playoffs? We talkin’ ‘bout Playoffs?”

So, this team is playing with house money. For me, a back-to-back SB win would be outstanding, but if it comes at the price of another 4-11-1 crash like the Eagles’ 2020 season … or a 5-12 like the Rams’ 2022, I’m not a buyer.


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House money is a loser term. For one with low expectations. The team is set up the best it's ever been since the late 40s...to go on a run. Young team full of winners, yet still plenty of young players that will develop. No where near thinking short term when looking to maximize this situation and keeping the talent level up and deep. That sets a culture that lasts when the second string has to play at a level up and then the 3rd string has to level up.

For someone who thinks we have such talent that we can get all these picks for guys that are going to get cut... the contrast in the mentality that we need picks in 2 years after having such a young team now, and all the picks in 2026, makes zero sense. Where are the spots? I'm thinking the focus can be more in developing what's on the roster now, so much potential... then we can have our 2018 and 2022 drafts again... 5 or 6 picks that hit.

You can't keep picking 11 draft picks and consistently develop them as that number can't all make the 53. There are stages to the roster building, not all of them involve having 11 picks each season.

" The process" isn't always where you think New Orleans is at the moment. And another point that you seem to skip... the talented roster loses players, also gets comp picks. Not necessary to trade away players.

The 2020 season came due to fluke injuries... and QB in a bad mindset, and plenty of other reasons. Not a young roster that has years to keep winning. This team is built to keep winning... not sure how the " elite thinking bloggers" seem to miss this. Or why they want to give away players.

The cap is in good shape... the roster still has young players that will step up. the 2026 draft is 2 seasons worth of picks in one. That's a lot of young players. Young players develop and young players come cheap. That's two long term... not short term positives.

An arrogant " I was born in 1947 crap post" trying to spin that we need 11 picks in 2027 and 2028 because of being born in 1947 or what happened in 2020? Or prior to Lurie owning the team... none of that matters or factors into how Hurts, AJ and this young team will perform.

For being a long term Eagles fan, you make s dumb statement when looking at 2017 to 2020 and complaining? You went through enough crap. A 4 year period where you win a SB, win a playoff game, win the division to make the playoffs and then have the crap year..... " You wouldn't sacrifice that? " Are you kidding. How arrogant is that thinking 3 out of 4 years in the plays, winning a playoff game in 2 of them and winning one title isn't good in comparison to the crap you witnessed back in your day?

Your mindset is all over the place, yet making no sense anywhere here. What is your goal with McKee... you want to trade him or not? I still can't tell.... maybe you need more accounting terms from 1968 to help explain?

Maybe you prefer to be the Steelers? They keep winning those 9 games.... no playoff win in a decade though... but hey, no 2020... lol

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

House money is a loser term. For one with low expectations.

It bears repeating "It’s not whether you win or lose, it’s how you played the game.” is the rule I was raised with. Wharton also taught me (and all its students) that a wise company balances two factors if it wants to continue to stay in business and thrive. The first is efficiently and effectively harvesting its mature products and services. The second is tending to the new product development pipeline so that when the sales of mature products and services eventually decline, as they always do, there are new products and services ready to replace those declining sales. Westinghouse and Xerox were textbook examples of companies that focused too much on harvesting and not enough on product development. They were household names that we never see anymore.

You choose to harvest more than I do, and I choose to focus more on new product development than you do. It is simply different strokes for different folks. I respect your desire to run with the bulls. I just choose a different approach to maximizing my entertainment.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I apologize. I don't like labels and being put in a box. My mood was awful and I lashed out and I should have not. I was upset over other things and should have stayed off until I cooled down

We are all friends here … family even. I know i have fought with my brothers and sisters many times. That is part of life, and what safer place could there be to blow off steam than here?

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The 2020 season came due to fluke injuries... and QB in a bad mindset, and plenty of other reasons. Not a young roster that has years to keep winning. This team is built to keep winning... not sure how the " elite thinking bloggers" seem to miss this. Or why they want to give away players.

The cap is in good shape... the roster still has young players that will step up. the 2026 draft is 2 seasons worth of picks in one. That's a lot of young players. Young players develop and young players come cheap. That's two long term... not short term positives.

An arrogant " I was born in 1947 crap post" trying to spin that we need 11 picks in 2027 and 2028 because of being born in 1947 or what happened in 2020? Or prior to Lurie owning the team... none of that matters or factors into how Hurts, AJ and this young team will perform.

For being a long term Eagles fan, you make s dumb statement when looking at 2017 to 2020 and complaining? You went through enough crap. A 4 year period where you win a SB, win a playoff game, win the division to make the playoffs and then have the crap year..... " You wouldn't sacrifice that? " Are you kidding. How arrogant is that thinking 3 out of 4 years in the plays, winning a playoff game in 2 of them and winning one title isn't good in comparison to the crap you witnessed back in your day?

Your mindset is all over the place, yet making no sense anywhere here. What is your goal with McKee... you want to trade him or not? I still can't tell.... maybe you need more accounting terms from 1968 to help explain?

You keep making this about the specifics of the single player McKee. The thinking about Draft resource maximization is a conceptual one, not player specific. The McKee situation is simply a cog in a wheel … a moment in a time thread that stretches both backwards and forwards.

It is kind of like life itself. Each of us is just the current incarnation of an energy stream that goes unbroken infinitely into the past and infinitely into the future. Each of us is just the current chapter in a "book” with many chapters stretching in both directions. We never die, but rather our energy stream just moves on to the next chapter unabated. As Einstein said E equals m c squared, and energy is conserved.” For me the Eagles and the Steelers are like that. They provide continual and continuous entertainment. The form of the entertainment varies, but it is always entertaining. As the intro of ABC’s Wide World of Sports said at the beginning of each show "Spanning the globe to bring you the constant variety of sports... the thrill of victory... and the agony of defeat...the human drama of athletic competition... This is "ABC's Wide World of Sports!"”

If you are a team that feels it needs a starting QB... normally that team would invest it's first round pick to get him.

If a team sees McKee as a starter... not just to get him to try out. Then they would invest that same pick. The year won't matter...it's a QB, you either have one or not.

If they don't see McKee as the probable solution, then they won't invest a first round pick...in any year.

So this silly idea or innuendo of 2026 second Round pick or a 2027 1st ....isn't really realistic.

28 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You keep making this about the specifics of the single player McKee. The thinking about Draft resource maximization is a conceptual one, not player specific. The McKee situation is simply a cog in a wheel … a moment in a time thread that stretches both backwards and forwards.

It is kind of like life itself. Each of us is just the current incarnation of an energy stream that goes unbroken infinitely into the past and infinitely into the future. Each of us is just the current chapter in a "book” with many chapters stretching in both directions. We never die, but rather our energy stream just moves on to the next chapter unabated. As Einstein said E equals m c squared, and energy is conserved.” For me the Eagles and the Steelers are like that. They provide continual and continuous entertainment. The form of the entertainment varies, but it is always entertaining. As the intro of ABC’s Wide World of Sports said at the beginning of each show "Spanning the globe to bring you the constant variety of sports... the thrill of victory... and the agony of defeat...the human drama of athletic competition... This is "ABC's Wide World of Sports!"”

What kind of drugs they have out there 🤔

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Impressive. I started with 5 pound potato sacks, then went to 10,eventually moving up to 20 pound sacks, then some idiot suggested I put potatoes in them 🤣

Coach from the show Cheers... " I was over at the Y doing laps in the pool for an hour" oh yeah, how many did you do coach? " Two. I would have walked them a lot faster if there wasn't water in the pool"

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2026/consensus-big-board-2026 FWIW here is the WAY early composite of '26 draftees. Howie can move pretty much at will with 13 picks to entice teams to move so we can get our targeted players(or more picks). With our "stars" locked on we can bank young guys who can take over when their time is over. Just fabulous planning for the future by this organization. At any rate these are kids to watch during the college games. Any of the top 100 would be worth checking out

How does one come to a "concensus" on who to name the 844th-rated college prospect? Does that mean he still has a chance?

13 hours ago, mattwill said:

There was no put down. None overt nor implied. You clearly inferred one where there is/was none. Different strokes for different folks. Some people spend most of their time in "the library” often to their detriment when it comes to experiencing feelings. Other people spend much more time "downstairs” where the feelings are warm and exciting. It takes all kinds to make a village.

I try and make it a habit to walk in the shoes of the folks I interact with. Those daily journeys provide and produce plenty of opportunity for observation. I shared my observation with Joe. It had no judgment, just shared observation. I’m sorry that it triggered you. I’ve always lived by the belief that it’s not whether you win or lose, but how you played the game that mattered. My proudest moment as a high school wrestler came in a bout at the New York Athletic Club where I got pinned by my opponent in the Second Period. It was a great triumph to have made it out of the First Period without being flattened. No matter how anyone cut it, it was a loss … a decisive loss. But I knew I had done my very best, and my teammates did too. He was after all an Olympic bronze medalist at the just completed Olympics.

Regarding leaving, you’ll just have to put up with me and my eccentricities. I suspect this won’t be the last time I trigger you with my "library” talk.

14 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

This offends me . It's been a LOOOOOONG road to get here, that is "short term" to you? I didn't become a fan in 2017 like those "fair weather" fans. Now we FINALLY have all the right people in all the right places and we have a shot at repeating and indeed that is SHORT TERM. Why would I NOT be excited for this opportunity? Would you prefer we trash/ tank this season to get better draft picks???? Because it's a longer term outlook? You strike when the iron is hot. NON bloggers are still FANS and I don't appreciate your implication that I am something LESS because I am not a blogger. Very disrespectful of you. Don't tell me about fan sufferings since I lived in the Cleveland zone for a long time and gave up on them(Browns) because they never COULD get their act together. I really DON'T feel like suffering for another 35 years(I don't have the time anyhow) and still supporting this team for whatever amount of time you deem "long term". If you feel we are unworthy of you, maybe you should hang out on the blog site and leave us peons to our page. I'm really not in the mood for being put down, since being a LOSING FAN since 1971(other than 2017 and the losing appearance by McNabb and company). I think I've suffered enough like all the fans have . BLOG all you want, it doesn't make you better than me and I find your post extremely bothersome. I didn't go to Wharton, I can't do spreadsheets, I am no comp whiz but your blood is no greener than mine. Have a nice day

Excuse me, but doesn't this dialouge belong in "Rant and Rage"?

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If you are a team that feels it needs a starting QB... normally that team would invest it's first round pick to get him.

If a team sees McKee as a starter... not just to get him to try out. Then they would invest that same pick. The year won't matter...it's a QB, you either have one or not.

If they don't see McKee as the probable solution, then they won't invest a first round pick...in any year.

So this silly idea or innuendo of 2026 second Round pick or a 2027 1st ....isn't really realistic.

You are conducting your assessment through the lens of 100% certainty. 100% certainty does not exist in the National Football League.

There is always a certain amount of risk/uncertainty associated with all NFL decisions. So, a team can be convinced that a specific player is going to succeed as their starting quarterback, but there is a real possibility that things won’t go as expected. The player could be not as good as the team expected him to be. The player could get injured. There are all sorts of risk factors. In the case of McKee, one of the risk factors is the small number of NFL starts that he has. A team can, in concept, be relatively convinced that he’s going to succeed, but that small number of starts injects a higher level of risk than if he had 15 starts.

Another factor that affects value is contract status.

If risk/uncertainty is zero and the contract status is good, then the value is indeed a 1st Round pick in the current year. As the risk/uncertainty rises above zero the 1st Round pick value gets devalued.

In the case of McKee the general opinion is that the current year 1st valuation is knocked down to a 2nd Round pick. For some teams, the devaluation is steep enough that they wouldn’t surrender anything more than a 3rd.

Matt... you got beat up a lot as a kid? Just curious?

That aside.... if I was another team I wouldn't offer higher than a 2026 3rd for McKee. If im the Eagles, im not taking anything other than a 2026 1st.

So ... I don't see a trade. Really ready to move on... but similar to Ham....you go off on a tangent and don't answer.... what do you want to happen with McKee?

E=MC2.... if tree falls in the forest with nobody there.... let's put that aside, you can discuss that with the elite bloggers.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

How can I put it simple.... I'm not F@@#ing up the team chemistry or the salary cap ... for 1 2nd round pick.... certainly not anything in 2027 or 2028

We don't need to change anything, this is the first legit attempt to repeat as a champion.... since 1949... 2027 and 28 drafts can wait

I’d say Rosie kind of screwed things up if he’s passing down any offers like that for McKee. Should have kept Pickett if that was the case.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say Rosie kind of screwed things up if he’s passing down any offers like that for McKee. Should have kept Pickett if that was the case.

I honestly was thinking that trade was there to be made with Moore accepting the Saints job. Especially once the Carr news broke. Made so much more sense for them to have traded for McKee than drafted their QB high like they did. Biggest attraction with their QB drafted was supposedly more NFL transition ready than other draftees. But really might refer a bit towards he’s already closer to his ceiling.

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