2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Thanks Matt...do you have spreadsheets to work from? Nice effort. 👍

I'd be content with a 5th for a future 4th almost anyday.

Yes. My better-half says about me that "if I can’t fit it into a spreadsheet, it doesn’t exist.”

13 hours ago, mattwill said:

The answer to that is really simple … building the replenishment pipeline.

That objective is currently well in hand for 2026 with 13 picks in addition to a current starting roster that is almost all under contract for at least two years. So, adding more 2026 picks is (almost) counterproductive. Setting up future drafts with the resources to bring in the next generation when the current roster contracts reach their end and some of the players follow Milton and Josh and Isaiah as FA departures or BG as retirements.

Achieving that end result doesn’t happen overnight. It takes forethought and proactivity. It also takes trading partners who value what they are getting more than the cost of what they are giving up. It is easy to undervalue future picks, and then regret what you have given up when that future becomes the present.

He may come down to earth at sometime in the coming years, but arming Howie with draft picks has been a gold mine. Riding (and feeding) that winning hand just makes sense.

It also is consistent with the product life cycle knowledge shared by business schools when they describe the successes of great companies in business.

In no conversation can you convince me a 2027 draft pick is better than having a 2026 pick. Regardless of the number of picks we have. You could use the 2026 pick to get more 2027 picks.... if I had to acquire an asset now.. much rather have the 2026 pick over a 2027 pick.

More importantly, I would rather have a quality backup QB the next 2 years. Only way McKee is tradable is if the QB we got from Cleveland is good enough to be a #2

13 hours ago, mattwill said:

You are approaching your thought process as an either/or choice. I believe it is both/and rather than either/or. This team is going to be a powerful contender no matter who QB2 is.

Further, if you could buy a 1st Round pick for $5 million, how quickly would you write the check?

If I could buy a 2026 first round pick for $5 million ion would do it... problem is there is cap implications....and idk of $5 million is close to being enough for a Cousins. I believe we are talking fantasy here.... keep the eyes on the prize and on reality.

13 hours ago, mattwill said:

Salary cap implications go out the window if you can (effectively) purchase an additional 1st Round pick for $5 million.

So let me ask you... We keep McKee until his rookie contract expires....what do you think is the result? Meaning.... does he sign with another team with the idea he becomes a starter in 2027? If so... what is the $$$. And then what does that lead to in regards to comp pick?

So .. if you can get 2 years of having a cheap backup quality #2.... then get a 2028 comp pick..save the cap hit from getting a vet #2 ( which at this point whio is left that would only cost $5 mil..possibly for multiple years)

See my plan... McKee is #2 for 2 more years... the kid we just drafted then is #2 the 2 years after that. Cap wise ... dirt cheap... and you could get 2 nice comp picks.

I like my team... my focus is on keeping the players, cap management is key here. Backup QB for peanuts is a great tool.

What we don't see on a daily basis.. the practices run much better with quality backup QBs... scout team...etc.

I see the division getting better and if Hurts misses 2 or 3 games I don't want to throw in a QB that isn't ready and cost us a playoff spot or position.

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

I’m greedy, a trait shared by the Blog posters who responded, and want the current season result to be another SB win AND the future to avoid a crash. The only way to avoid that crash is to arm Howie with replacement resources.

All the above is just my opinion. I’m not saying my opinion is right, and I respect the win-now perspective you and Joe and Ham have articulated. I’m just greedy enough (and a 77 years, old enough) to want my cake and eat it too.

I just really think there is obsession with making moves....the idea ( we are the best team and keeping the current plan in place...Just doesn't work) everyone loves to play GM.

Our team is young... plenty of picks in 2026... not sure we need more picks in 2027... more picks each year doesn't necessarily work. Maybe in 2 years the free agent signing might be more important.

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

You and I will have to agree to disagree that the standard seven picks is enough. If Howie was playing only with the standard seven, we wouldn’t have Jalen Carter, or Slim Reaper, or Cooper DeJean just to name a few players.

But each year presents a different type of stage in the roster build and therefore a different type of approach. Having 11 picks each year isn't necessary the best approach. Some years 5 picks and making free agent moves works better. Only so many roster spots...11 picks each year isn't going to work with all the players sticking and getting time to develop.

Our roster is young...if the 2025 and 2026 picks have enough success to stick...in 2027 the volume of picks may not have value.

In contrast a quality cheap back up QB for the next 4 years could really allow for the roster to stay in tact!

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

In no conversation can you convince me a 2027 draft pick is better than having a 2026 pick. Regardless of the number of picks we have. You could use the 2026 pick to get more 2027 picks.... if I had to acquire an asset now.. much rather have the 2026 pick over a 2027 pick.

More importantly, I would rather have a quality backup QB the next 2 years. Only way McKee is tradable is if the QB we got from Cleveland is good enough to be a #2

JMO McCord is > Thompson whatever. He needs to go to simply because I loathe players with hyphens. I hope we never hire a Mexican with 5 names as there won't be enough jersey space, or the lettering would be so small it looks like a straight line 🤣. All kidding aside we should keep McCord as the 3

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You said much better what I was saying ,that you can have TOO many picks. Howie will move all over the board, but he's not afraid to dump some off for future ones, Not much sense in having 15 picks when your stars are locked in.. Once you fill the ones you NEED in rounds1,2,3, maybe 4 all you are doing after that is bringing in too many guys you'll have to cut later anyway. We are kind of in that situation right now, where we're going to have to lose alot of good players. I mean like if we cut MJ or ASmith some other team will snap them up because even the late round UDFA guys Howie finds turn out better than many teams higher picks and they are both young. I suspect teams really like getting the guys we cut(especially this year as we have a boatload of BU talent). And just look at what would happen if we took all our 2's and had a few drafts, we could add a nice expansion team just with our BU's. We're in a great position and in total control. From the FO down to the Gatorade crew,we are top notch as an organization and players WANT to play here and loving your job makes you do your job better, but for Ham's sake, we need the "no marriage" clause in contracts. The only flaw I see 🤣

I'll counter here... i thought last year's roster was excellent....fairly deep in a lot of spots. How many of our cuts got signed by other teams? Idk.... the only name that rings a bell is Dylan McMahon the long hair center, and not sure he is proven to be anything other than a prospect.

I'm not too worried about guys we cut....they are potentially going to be NFL players. They are prospects.

I'm also not arrogant enough to think guys we let go are so coveted around the league either. 31 teams had an opportunity to get them also but chose another route.

I'm not saying all the cuts will clear wavers etc...just not thinking so highly of fringe prospects. It's like throwing paper towels on the ceiling, we know some will stick... can't worry about it, gotta focus on the guys we keep on the roster and come back on the PS.

Everything works both ways... we have both cut prospects that worked out and signed some that others cut that worked out for us. It is what it is.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

In no conversation can you convince me a 2027 draft pick is better than having a 2026 pick. Regardless of the number of picks we have. You could use the 2026 pick to get more 2027 picks.... if I had to acquire an asset now.. much rather have the 2026 pick over a 2027 pick.

More importantly, I would rather have a quality backup QB the next 2 years. Only way McKee is tradable is if the QB we got from Cleveland is good enough to be a #2

I respect those opinions, but disagree with them both. The value of Draft picks is highly dependent on the condition of the roster of the team. In a roster with lots of holes picks have greater value than in a roster with no holes, like the Eagles currently have. For example, if the Eagles drafted an OT in Round 1 instead of Campbell in April, that pick would have decreased value because both RT and LT are filled with All Pros.

Even if that OT does become a starter a year later, the first year delivered no value while the player was on the sidelines, so your argument that you want the value earlier is made moot by the presence of Johnson and Mailata. Plus you have lost one year of the player’s contract thanks to the sidelines year.

With the 13 picks he has in 2026 … 5 of which are in Days One and Two, Howie has considerably more picks than the team has holes. So adding another 2026 pick in a hypothetical trade for McKee simply makes the "considerably” of considerably more even more considerable. Taking that pick in 2027, one round earlier than it would have been in 2026, does a better job of matching a replenishment resource with a hole. It also puts the Eagles in a position to pick a Jalen Carter rather than a Dallas Goedert … the former being a mid-Round 1 selection versus the latter being a mid-Round 2 selection.

With the above said, I reiterate again I respect your opinion, and that opinion is definitely right for teams with immediate needs.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If I could buy a 2026 first round pick for $5 million ion would do it... problem is there is cap implications....and idk of $5 million is close to being enough for a Cousins. I believe we are talking fantasy here.... keep the eyes on the prize and on reality.

Apple was created by the fantasies of Steve Jobs. Innovation is simply fantasy that is acted on.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I respect those opinions, but disagree with them both. The value of Draft picks is highly dependent on the condition of the roster of the team. In a roster with lots of holes picks have greater value than in a roster with no holes, like the Eagles currently have. For example, if the Eagles drafted an OT in Round 1 instead of Campbell in April, that pick would have decreased value because both RT and LT are filled with All Pros.

Even if that OT does become a starter a year later, the first year delivered no value while the player was on the sidelines, so your argument that you want the value earlier is made moot by the presence of Johnson and Mailata. Plus you have lost one year of the player’s contract thanks to the sidelines year.

With the 13 picks he has in 2026 … 5 of which are in Days One and Two, Howie has considerably more picks than the team has holes. So adding another 2026 pick in a hypothetical trade for McKee simply makes the "considerably” of considerably more even more considerable. Taking that pick in 2027, one round earlier than it would have been in 2026, does a better job of matching a replenishment resource with a hole. It also puts the Eagles in a position to pick a Jalen Carter rather than a Dallas Goedert … the former being a mid-Round 1 selection versus the latter being a mid-Round 2 selection.

With the above said, I reiterate again I respect your opinion, and that opinion is definitely right for teams with immediate needs.

But you are assuming .. comparison of a 2026 2nd round pick vs 2027 1st Round pick. I already stated way earlier in the conversation that I prefer always waiting for a first round pick compared to taking a 2nd round pick.

I'm just saying ( without the ASSumption...stress on the first 3 letters here) of automatically thinking 2027 pick would be a first but the 2026 wouldn't .. I have prefer the 2026 pick... regardless of the number of picks we have..

Because the other ASSumption of using all the picks isn't what I would anticipate.

Howie likes the flexibility of being able to choose what to do later... more picks in 2026 allows for more options than more picks in 2027. Trade for players now...trade for more future picks... or use the picks sooner....whatever choice they decide.

For now... you want McKee ... I need to know the kid from Cleveland can be a legit #2...then you can start by offering me a 2026 1st. Not 2027. I'm not losing McKee and then waiting 2 years for compensation.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But you are assuming .. comparison of a 2026 2nd round pick vs 2027 1st Round pick. I already stated way earlier in the conversation that I prefer always waiting for a first round pick compared to taking a 2nd round pick.

I'm just saying ( without the ASSumption...stress on the first 3 letters here) of automatically thinking 2027 pick would be a first but the 2026 wouldn't .. I have prefer the 2026 pick... regardless of the number of picks we have..

Because the other ASSumption of using all the picks isn't what I would anticipate.

Howie likes the flexibility of being able to choose what to do later... more picks in 2026 allows for more options than more picks in 2027. Trade for players now...trade for more future picks... or use the picks sooner....whatever choice they decide.

For now... you want McKee ... I need to know the kid from Cleveland can be a legit #2...then you can start by offering me a 2026 1st. Not 2027. I'm not losing McKee and then waiting 2 years for compensation.

There is no logical or rational reason to make a comparison of the present value of the same round pick from two different years.

Why you, who clearly are an intelligent person, would make such a comparison defies comprehension. Further, in the next 24 months McKee isn’t ever going to be worth a first round pick in the then current year.

So it bewilders me why you would have read the comparison that way and/or introduced the idea of making that illogical comparison.

41 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The kid from Cleveland has less talent than McCord. I see Hurts, McKee, McCord going forward. Maybe the kid from Cleveland hides out on the PS or just gets cut,

I'll say again .... maybe so you understand better Right now the talk is Hurts, McKee, McCord.... you seem to agree that McCord shouldn't be trusted ASAP as the #2. so I will state again so you understand my view.... The kid from Cleveland would have to show me that he can be a #2. That would be the only way I trade McKee.... so there will have to be the unexpected of that kid not only jumping McCord... but doing so in a way to make us think he can be a legit #2.

You follow better now? So that after a trade of McKee... it would have to be Hurts, kid from Cleveland, then McCord. ... otherwise I don't do the trade if it is as it looks with McCord being better than the kid from Cleveland and having to be #2.

So again.... only way I'm looking to trade McKee for the 2026 1st round pick... is if the kid from Cleveland steps up ... huge! Not what I expect to happen, but what would have to happen.. you get it yet?

47 minutes ago, mattwill said:

There is no logical or rational reason to make a comparison of the present value of the same round pick from two different years.

Why you, who clearly are an intelligent person, would make such a comparison defies comprehension. Further, in the next 24 months McKee isn’t ever going to be worth a first round pick in the then current year.

So it bewilders me why you would have read the comparison that way and/or introduced the idea of making that illogical comparison.

Sam Bradford....you're welcome!

48 minutes ago, mattwill said:

There is no logical or rational reason to make a comparison of the present value of the same round pick from two different years.

Why you, who clearly are an intelligent person, would make such a comparison defies comprehension. Further, in the next 24 months McKee isn’t ever going to be worth a first round pick in the then current year.

So it bewilders me why you would have read the comparison that way and/or introduced the idea of making that illogical comparison.

BTW, I agree that McKee is not worth a 1st round pick now.... at present time ... but, IMO if that changes, then the year won't matter. meaning in no scenario do I think he would be worth a 1st round pick in 2027 but not in 2026. He will be either worth a first round pick or not. If he is, I'm taking the pick in 2026.

This of course would need injuries to other QBs and some desperation to win ASAP by that team If that situation happens like it did in Minnesota back in 2016, then no reason a team would be willing to give up a 2027 1st, but not a 2026 1st.

But i'm not focused on any of that... this year we defend a title, without the QB coming off of a serious injury like after the first one. 2027 and 2028 will take care of itself later, first step is to develop the million young players we already have on the roster. A Very... VERY young roster!

Howie has a blessing and a curse - BOTH!

He is blessed with the best roster in the NFL currently and for the next several years...GREAT!

He is has to compete with 31 other professional organizations for a relatively small pool of true talent each draft, usually amounting to about 10 to 15 players while picking later each round no less. Moreover, he has a roster of players that have earned and deserve to be paid hansomely for what they add under the constraints of a limited cap budget.

Therefore, he needs to exert a great deal of creativity to keep the ship afloat over the course of his leadership. While doing so, invariably he will make some decisions that will not be popular with the fanbase from time to time. Also, despite the scrutiny that players are submtted to, honest mistakes of judgement will occasionally occur (Huff).

Given all that goes into being a successfull NFL franchise, the consensus is we have an exceptional organization...be proud.

P.S. I hope Jerruh remains in charge for another 30 years.

1 minute ago, Crazy Legs said:

He is blessed with the best roster in the NFL currently and for the next several years...GREAT!

He's not blessed, he built it. I think the sheer ridicule of him taking Reagor over JJ and watching the Vikings war room erupt in high 5's(getting JJ)was too much for his ego LOL. Then he decided to do something about it and he decided he needed to spend time with the scouts, maybe listen to a few other people with more expertise, become a "football" guy not just a pencil pusher. Been excellent drafts since then. He deserves all the praise he gets as well as making this team one of the youngest in the league, while still being one of the best. We will contend again and he has brilliance stockpiling picks while still getting the players he(or Fangio or Siri) want to get. He's the best GM with 31 others behind him. No,not perfect, no one can be, but he's the best there is

10 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

P.S. I hope Jerruh remains in charge for another 30 years.

Amen.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Sam Bradford....you're welcome!

I don’t follow. Please elaborate.

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

STOP WITH THE DAMN DAMN DAMN MOVIE SCREEN POSTS!!!!

That’s between YouTube and or site…not my control…they pair together

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

STOP WITH THE DAMN DAMN DAMN MOVIE SCREEN POSTS!!!!

Tell YouTube or our site host about it…not me

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The statue with glass knees LOL

He had that big arm and all the prototypical features you love always seemed to prioritize in a franchise QB

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

BTW, I agree that McKee is not worth a 1st round pick now.... at present time ... but, IMO if that changes, then the year won't matter. meaning in no scenario do I think he would be worth a 1st round pick in 2027 but not in 2026. He will be either worth a first round pick or not. If he is, I'm taking the pick in 2026.

He is (at most) worth a 2026 2nd Round pick, and that 2027 2nd is worth a 2027 1st Round pick. As you have pointed out, a 2027 1st isn’t the same value as a 2026 1st.

He may only be worth a 2026 3rd, and that pick is worth a 2027 2nd.

20 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

Howie has a blessing and a curse - BOTH!

He is blessed with the best roster in the NFL currently and for the next several years...GREAT!

He is has to compete with 31 other professional organizations for a relatively small pool of true talent each draft, usually amounting to about 10 to 15 players while picking later each round no less. Moreover, he has a roster of players that have earned and deserve to be paid hansomely for what they add under the constraints of a limited cap budget.

Therefore, he needs to exert a great deal of creativity to keep the ship afloat over the course of his leadership. While doing so, invariably he will make some decisions that will not be popular with the fanbase from time to time. Also, despite the scrutiny that players are submtted to, honest mistakes of judgement will occasionally occur (Huff).

Given all that goes into being a successfull NFL franchise, the consensus is we have an exceptional organization...be proud.

P.S. I hope Jerruh remains in charge for another 30 years.

Key is understanding the reasoning behind the failure in the big Huff signing. You can only improve on what you admit and understand is a weakness and issue