5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you are a step ahead on the thinking here this draft you are realizing which players are likely to be cut loose during or after the draft. Swift trade. CGJ trade. Those type examples and more. Several quality options are coming up to bring in these vets. 

Sure,but we need youth not more old men injections. And who cuts youth unless they are 2nd rate?

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think Wiggins will be a good CB. But not the right guy we need there.

Why I choose DeJean. I just read an article about owners and such mocks and us taking Latu had the most votes

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you are a step ahead on the thinking here this draft you are realizing which players are likely to be cut loose during or after the draft. Swift trade. CGJ trade. Those type examples and more. Several quality options are coming up to bring in these vets. 

Hmmm....  is it being a step ahead though?   Because I recall you saying Howie was lucky that guys became available 2 years ago???   

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hmmm....  is it being a step ahead though?   Because I recall you saying Howie was lucky that guys became available 2 years ago???   

Gathering information is the game. I’ve already been hearing about plenty of talented options expected to shake loose for varying reasons. To get us to Championship Roster levels right now…we are definitely going to need some luck.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why I choose DeJean. I just read an article about owners and such mocks and us taking Latu had the most votes

Could totally see Rosie going Edge. First position that arrived to my brain with any discussion of Rosie trading up.

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure,but we need youth not more old men injections. And who cuts youth unless they are 2nd rate?

We need enough talented players to win the SB. I’ll take any and all the above that gets us there.

But if the plan is to clear cap and get much younger rebuilding? I can get behind that also.

Got this kid,which makes me lose faith in highlight reels LOL 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could totally see Rosie going Edge. First position that arrived to my brain with any discussion of Rosie trading up.

So far you've seen "Rosie" go in every possible direction. I suppose I have also. Mocks are all over the place, only Howie know what Howie will do

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We need enough talented players to win the SB. I’ll take any and all the above that gets us there.

We had enough before,we had enough last year. How long can Howie keep giving Hurts weapons and O line until he gets us home???? It's "make it or break it" for me on Hurts.He''s turning into Dak who can't win the big games with arguably a better offense than Dak gets. Sorry you don't like my opinion,but it is still my opinion. Lurie's patience will run out after this year after the "tail between the legs" embarrassment he had to endure in TB last year. I will give you that the D needs to be alot better,yet the PPG dropped from the previous year and there is little excuse for that. 53 guys and the coaching staff have ONE JOB and that is to make Lurie look good. Get it done. I want the Tush push to be ONE play we have not our entire 4th down offense. We shouldn't need that play at ALL-EVER

I wish Hurts the best,but he needs to step up and be an NFL QB now. Playtime is over and now it's Showtime.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could totally see Rosie going Edge. First position that arrived to my brain with any discussion of Rosie trading up.

It's a "Howie pick" that's for sure. So is Oline. if it was me I would take Dejean,but we know that is only an outside chance and would be a HUGE leap of faith for Howie

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So far you've seen "Rosie" go in every possible direction. I suppose I have also. Mocks are all over the place, only Howie know what Howie will do

Nope…always been in the trenches. But ever since the season ended I’ve believed Oline highest probability. Been exactly the same the whole time from me.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But if the plan is to clear cap and get much younger rebuilding? I can get behind that also.

We still have what, 28 million to spend if we want? We added Bark, CJG, Huff (yes I get the trade off with Riddick) Re-signed Smith,added Parker and Paris to at least TRY and get some slot production. Added some depth. Lost failed coaches and replaced them. Howie earned every dollar of his pay. I'm hoping Moore can get some passing from Hurts. he has the weapons. Bark is also an outlet in lieu of having TE2,so that should help Hurts also. IDK what else can be done,It's time to WIN and is expected now 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nope…always been in the trenches. But ever since the season ended I’ve believed Oline highest probability. Been exactly the same the whole time from me.

LOL right you also said Wiggins,and DeJean and even toyed with WR (which even I did not) You and I both toyed with Bowers after Joe brought him up

38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We had enough before,we had enough last year. How long can Howie keep giving Hurts weapons and O line until he gets us home???? It's "make it or break it" for me on Hurts.He''s turning into Dak who can't win the big games with arguably a better offense than Dak gets. Sorry you don't like my opinion,but it is still my opinion. Lurie's patience will run out after this year after the "tail between the legs" embarrassment he had to endure in TB last year. I will give you that the D needs to be alot better,yet the PPG dropped from the previous year and there is little excuse for that. 53 guys and the coaching staff have ONE JOB and that is to make Lurie look good. Get it done. I want the Tush push to be ONE play we have not our entire 4th down offense. We shouldn't need that play at ALL-EVER

At least you had one solid point in all that. Next to worst pass D. You want a miracle worker at QB. You’re going to need to look somewhere completely different from NFL drafts for those levels of omnipotent powers.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At least you had a solid point in all that. Next to worst pass D. You want a miracle worker at QB. You’re going to need to look somewhere completely different from NFL drafts for those levels of omnipotent powers.

Nothing "miraculous" about using a top notch O you have at your fingertips

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We had enough before,we had enough last year. How long can Howie keep giving Hurts weapons and O line until he gets us home???? It's "make it or break it" for me on Hurts.He''s turning into Dak who can't win the big games with arguably a better offense than Dak gets. Sorry you don't like my opinion,but it is still my opinion. Lurie's patience will run out after this year after the "tail between the legs" embarrassment he had to endure in TB last year. I will give you that the D needs to be alot better,yet the PPG dropped from the previous year and there is little excuse for that. 53 guys and the coaching staff have ONE JOB and that is to make Lurie look good. Get it done. I want the Tush push to be ONE play we have not our entire 4th down offense. We shouldn't need that play at ALL-EVER

Never had enough last year. Never were a serious real contender. Sorry you fell for the BS hype because we snuck out every single one of our eleven wins. I never saw our TEAM play a full four quarters well. Never witnessed a cohesive gameplan/playcalling. Wasn’t ever there. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nothing "miraculous" about using a top notch O you have at your fingertips

I thought Hurts had those miraculous Intangibles? We need him to use those now

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Never had enough last year. Never were a serious real contender. Sorry you fell for the BS hype because we snuck out every single one of our eleven wins. I never saw our TEAM play a full four quarters well. Never witnessed a cohesive gameplan/playcalling. Wasn’t ever there. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

Yep we should have won by alot more,that's true.Thanks for backing me up

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

Time for those Hurts intangibles. Hurts is the team leader,so if that wasn't there you know where to look

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Never had enough last year. Never were a serious real contender. Sorry you fell for the BS hype because we snuck out every single one of our eleven wins. I never saw our TEAM play a full four quarters well. Never witnessed a cohesive gameplan/playcalling. Wasn’t ever there. I never saw our team cohesively together last season. 

WHO changed on offense from the SB year to last year????

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We still have what, 28 million to spend if we want? We added Bark, CJG, Huff (yes I get the trade off with Riddick) Re-signed Smith,added Parker and Paris to at least TRY and get some slot production. Added some depth. Lost failed coaches and replaced them. Howie earned every dollar of his pay. I'm hoping Moore can get some passing from Hurts. he has the weapons. Bark is also an outlet in lieu of having TE2,so that should help Hurts also. IDK what else can be done,It's time to WIN and is expected now 

This has to be a joke, right? You really don’t see anything else needed? You believe this team is ready to win a SB? No idea what you’re thinking. Let’s at least have a massively successful draft with a lucky addition or two from the cap casualties cutdowns before having these wildly outlandish delusions of grandeur. But it does explain how you believed we had the greatest team of all times last season.

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL right you also said Wiggins,and DeJean and even toyed with WR (which even I did not) You and I both toyed with Bowers after Joe brought him up

You are getting all confused and mixed up. Don’t even know where to begin to unravel your misunderstandings here. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This has to be a joke, right? You really don’t see anything else needed? You believe this team is ready to win a SB? No idea what you’re thinking. Let’s at least have a massively successful draft with a lucky addition or two from the cap casualties cutdowns before having these wildly outlandish delusions of grandeur. But it does explain how you believed we had the greatest team of all times last season.

We lost pro bowlers that were all in on Hurts winning last year. Those are gone obviously. Name me O guys at the skill positions you think are better than what we have as a unit. My "delusions of granduer" now rest on one guy,your knob polished QB. How long are you giving him to succeed???