April 22, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: The ignorant calling me ignorant is classic, thanks for the vote of confidence What mock draft version are you on now? Yet you stating Iām the one listing every player? Really not trying to be hurtful with terms like ignorant. Just lack any nicer or softer way of saying it.
April 22, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Should be just basic and obvious. Losing Hall of Famers rarely makes teams better. To have strong expectations you need a full team. At least wait until after the draft to spew all this crap. Maybe after one real practice in the new scheme with new coaches. Seems like Iām asking too much of you. But I canāt change those very basic fundamental obvious needs of successful seasons. And so,the excuses begin LOL We all knew it. SO, Now Hurts has to perform and you are already expecting we will be worse. Sorry you feel that way. sad to see
April 22, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I make one mock and update it. not my fault you can't keep up I donāt want to keep up. I donāt even read most of those mocks anyway. Clearly have no desire to keep up with the sure endless numbers of mocks you produce. I produced my one mock draft effort. Iām good with that.
April 22, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: What mock draft version are you on now? Yet you stating Iām the one listing every player? Really not trying to be hurtful with terms like ignorant. Just lack any nicer or softer way of saying it. Alot I never put on my mock. My mocks stayed mostly the same. I changed a few out,that;s not "a million mocks" it's one mock with upgrades.; I can post my final one if you want to see it again. besides we all know mocks are not going to happen,just what we want to happen. Feel free to ignore them I never claimed you had to read them.
April 22, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I donāt want to keep up. I donāt even read most of those mocks anyway. Clearly have no desire to keep up with the sure endless numbers of mocks you produce. I produced my one mock draft effort. Iām good with that. Excellent,then dont bring them up. Well done
April 22, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I'm not going through the GOAL discussion again which you still apparently cannot grasp. fact remains even with your HOfers we dropped by 4 PPG last year. That is disturbing I canāt grasp much of anything in your logic. Doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me. But "goalā is a much needed improvement from what you originally were stating so long ago. But still doesnāt sound like you even mean āgoalā when you make statements about losing by one point scoring that āgoal.āĀ
April 22, 20241 yr Author 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: What mock draft version are you on now? Yet you stating Iām the one listing every player? Really not trying to be hurtful with terms like ignorant. Just lack any nicer or softer way of saying it. 16,483,but you said you didn't read them lol(lies)
April 22, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: I canāt grasp much of anything in your logic. Doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me. But "goalā is a much needed improvement from what you originally were stating so long ago. But still doesnāt sound like you even mean āgoalā when you make statements about losing by one point scoring that āgoal.āĀ Because you don't understand what a goal is LOL and I'm tired of explaining it to you.find a dictionary
April 22, 20241 yr Author My "goal" was as an offense. I never mentioned defense did I??? That would be a different "goal"
April 22, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I canāt grasp much of anything in your logic It's impossible because you need logic to understand logic
April 22, 20241 yr Author I'm done arguing with you because it's pointless ,so no more responses,have fun
April 22, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: And so,the excuses begin LOL We all knew it. SO, Now Hurts has to perform and you are already expecting we will be worse. Sorry you feel that way. sad to see Iāve seen him perform. Canāt wait to see even more of it. If he didnāt get injured two seasons ago he should have been MVP. I predicted this path long ago even. Nothing shocking for me. This has been an obvious side effect of Rosieās ways. Was hoping having that steal of getting Carter in the draft could have maybe positively changed Ā things from this Rosie cycle. 2016 through 2020. Really seems like a close repeat of results again. This season would mirror our 2019 team if so. Hope not. Roster isnāt finished yet even.Ā
April 22, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Because you don't understand what a goal is LOL and I'm tired of explaining it to you.find a dictionary At least you changed the term to goalā¦thatās a start
April 22, 20241 yr Then Iāll hope Siri doesnāt have control enough to try and make Gainwell the week one starter again. Baby steps.
April 22, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Gathering information is the game. Iāve already been hearing about plenty of talented options expected to shake loose for varying reasons. To get us to Championship Roster levels right nowā¦we are definitely going to need some luck. But is it luck...or being one step ahead back when it happened in 2022?Ā Ā You didn't give Howie credit then... you needed the puzzle completed way earlier.Ā Ā Now you are saying it would be a one step ahead move? Is it because you missed guys potentially being available 2 years ago...so it was luck then...but the bleacher reports that you are reading now are throwing out the rumors?Ā Ā
April 22, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Nopeā¦always been in the trenches. But ever since the season ended Iāve believed Oline highest probability. Been exactly the same the whole time from me. OL makes the most sense.Ā Ā We aren't sure about the starter at RG.Ā Ā We need depth.Ā It's also a position they prioritize.Ā That's without adding Lane is turning 34 soon.
April 22, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I thought Hurts had those miraculous Intangibles? We need him to use those now So part of the " noise " ....that's what I'll call the stuff coming out from reports... coming from the local media is Hurts demeanor last year after games.Ā Ā The idea about locker rooms being happy after wins, but Hurts constant complaining about " not playing to the standard etc. was apparently rubbing some of the players the wrong way. So.... the welcome to the league moment is definitely here...people criticize the way you say hello and tie your shoe when you get there.
April 22, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: I agree with that. Not what happened at all though. Frankly could have so very easily started last season 0-4ā¦or worse. Pulled out victories from the jaws of defeat seemingly every week to start the season.Ā Tampa the defense dominated... wasn't that game 2 or 3?
April 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: Iāve seen him perform. Canāt wait to see even more of it. If he didnāt get injured two seasons ago he should have been MVP. I predicted this path long ago even. Nothing shocking for me. This has been an obvious side effect of Rosieās ways. Was hoping having that steal of getting Carter in the draft could have maybe positively changed Ā things from this Rosie cycle. 2016 through 2020. Really seems like a close repeat of results again. This season would mirror our 2019 team if so. Hope not. Roster isnāt finished yet even.Ā 2019 season was winning the division...and the QB setting franchise record with Greg Ward is his best WR!Ā
April 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: Then Iāll hope Siri doesnāt have control enough to try and make Gainwell the week one starter again. Baby steps. Siri is going to out a guy on the last year of a minimum contract ahead of a guy we have for 3 years and big money.Ā Ā Dude that has all around game?
April 22, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, joemas6 said: So part of the " noise " ....that's what I'll call the stuff coming out from reports... coming from the local media is Hurts demeanor last year after games.Ā Ā The idea about locker rooms being happy after wins, but Hurts constant complaining about " not playing to the standard etc. was apparently rubbing some of the players the wrong way. So.... the welcome to the league moment is definitely here...people criticize the way you say hello and tie your shoe when you get there. My point was Hurts is out of excuses although Ham will keep making them. It's time to perform. Yeah we lost Kelce,Bark offsets that to some degree. Hurts can't hide behind HOFers forever,he needs to play QB not a running back who can throw, Ham fails to understand this. The tush push should be utilized rarely. If you have a QB,you don't need to use that play much. Gains is fine as a COP RB. We will add another somewhere. With Bark it's not too pressing. We will see if Jurgens can handle the job. I understand about getting the RG,but we can get that in round 2. Beebe would be fine. We need that secondary player injection(maybe more than 1). I'm hoping we get DeJean and Beebe in round 2. If Howie is not going after DeJean,then Latu. Round 2 is fine to add to the RG competition. Still good player even in round 4. This class is really deep with talent. Some round 4 guys we can get are actually round 3 or higher in some other drafts. it's a very good class. We need to just choose wisely and make the trades up or down and I'm confident Howie will do his best. Some lifts are just too high no matter how bad we want a guy. TE2 and slot WR should come in somewhere. Round 5 we can get lots of depth guys or those that need polish but still have the talent. We are also very good at signing UDFA's. Some work out,some don't but we are good at grabbing the best UDFA's. I could see a RB and maybe a QB in that group as well as some more depth players to try out. I just hope this goes well again. It would be hard NOT to get a good player at 22 or wherever Howie wants to go. I would prefer we trade back for additional picks after the first round 2 selection(which I hope is Beebe). All we can do is wait,but with basically the entire offense returning sans Kelce but with the addition of Bark,Hurts needs to play QB now,that was my point
April 22, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, joemas6 said: OL makes the most sense.Ā Ā We aren't sure about the starter at RG.Ā Ā We need depth.Ā It's also a position they prioritize.Ā That's without adding Lane is turning 34 soon. Yeah. All I am wondering is how they are scoring them. If Beebe is "about the same" as Guyton, then we should go to him in round 2 and use the 1 for something else and let Guyton go past.. Of course if the separation is so vast that it matters ALOT,then we go Guyton at 22. We just aren't privvy to how they have them ranked and rated. DeJean would be a welcome sight in my view. It goes against Howies grain,but the talent is hard to blow off and it's a sore spot we could use to fix and keep going. DeJean is a good fit here and a guy that can be around as we replace some of the aging other guys in the secondary. I think it would be a wise move to do that.but IDK what Howie thinks. He's done well the last few drafts so whatever he thinks must be the best. We have guys on the rope such as Kneeland and Mahogany as later choices if we miss on others,so that plan B is already there. I know we had my boy Ainias Smith in who would be a perfect slot choice and another WR. Stats show we select 67% of the players we have in for personal visits. DeJean was 1 of them as was Beebe and Latu. So DeJean,Latu and Guyton should be one of those 3 with Beebe in round 2. If we miss on DeJean I like Bullard at S in round 2 with Beebe At any rate with 22,50 and 53 we will get 3 good players and that's pretty good. Ainias Smith is the best slot guy,maybe we can get him in 5 unless they feel the need to add him in 4. it's going to be a fun draft and very busy in round 1
April 22, 20241 yr Author https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/21/lions-draft-prospect-profile-javon-bullard-scouting-report/Ā Ā Ā If we go O line in 1,I like this kid in 2 or TJ Tampa. Either of those would be great picks
April 22, 20241 yr Author Trading back the 22 I got......... 26. Cooper DeJeanS Iowa 50. Byron Murphy IIDT Texas 53. Cooper BeebeOG Kansas State 57. Ben SinnottTE Kansas State 171. Ainias SmithWR Texas A&M 172. Joe Milton IIIQB Tennessee 181. Tommy EichenbergLB Ohio State 185. Kitan OladapoS Oregon State 210. Carson SteeleRB UCLA
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