If it was just identified D playcall? That only was interfered with for the most part because coaching always too late getting playcalls in. Majority of time under Siri, if we exclude Moore season, broke the huddle coming to the line of scrimmage so late in the playclock.

But Siri nonscheme didn’t provide answers or adjustments. Obvious predictable alignment ‘telling’ opponents O playcall. Most basic part surrounding a playbook being every look supposed to have mutilpe differing options to prevent exactly this.

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Not to the extent that he's being asked to do it now

Do you honestly think installing yet another new offense will come without some speedbumps.

I thought you knew better than that

I didn't realize you are there at OTAs to know exactly what is going on?

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I didn't realize you are there at OTAs to know exactly what is going on?

I didn't realize you took so much pleasure in being a dick

There's a good bit of video showing exactly what i'm talking about and there's plenty of comments from Eagles players saying the same thing

Just now, Asg 15 said:

I didn't realize you took so much pleasure in being a dick

There's a good bit of video showing exactly what i'm talking about and there's plenty of comments from Eagles players saying the same thing

I don't just pull this stuff out of my ass. I only talk about what I see and read on line

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I didn't realize you took so much pleasure in being a dick

There's a good bit of video showing exactly what i'm talking about and there's plenty of comments from Eagles players saying the same thing

There were videos from years prior if him being under center and throwing over the middle in OTAs and camps every year. The one local reporter gets mocked for charting his passes in OTAs and camp.

If he did it 5 to 10 times per day in years past... why does ot matter if he does it 20 times per day now?

It's not new. Doing it more is not new or different....it's just more. Not an excuse for poor performance.

Not being a dick...just stating the obvious where it should be to you as an Eagles fan also...especially if you mentioned videos from camp... that means you should know this right?

Just sounds like an excuse for the QB entering his 7th season that another poster on here would give. Which other QB in the league would get this excuse...because he is doing in " more" .not anything " new" I don't think any other QB would get that pass.

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I don't just pull this stuff out of my ass. I only talk about what I see and read on line

What about stuff you see on the news with the 24/7 local station or either of yhe 2 local sports talk stations?

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What about stuff you see on the news with the 24/7 local station or either of yhe 2 local sports talk stations?

I don't live near philly

I can only repeat what i see on line from several Eagles content creators

Hurts is entering his 7th year.......under 7 different OCs with 7 different offensive schemes

We need to see if he can pick it up.........again

If he can't then complain

There's not a damn thing the Eagles can do about it this year anyway

8 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I don't live near philly

I can only repeat what i see on line from several Eagles content creators

Hurts is entering his 7th year.......under 7 different OCs with 7 different offensive schemes

We need to see if he can pick it up.........again

If he can't then complain

There's not a damn thing the Eagles can do about it this year anyway

So it's nothing new then right...no excuse really for throwing a 9 yard pass directly at the defense in a 7 on 7 drill without any real pressure.

The reason why anything should not be of too much concern ...is simply timing. Nothing counts now....3 months until it does. That's when throwing poorly and not making the right decision matters. Not so much now when it's basically just exercise and drills.

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was Moore that equipped Hurts to run the O. All in one season Hurts for the first time took on the responsibilities all at once. Hurts proved in fact he was more than capable to perform all these tasks well. All that Hurts had been lacking that is absolutely required was: qualified O mind that was capable of actually coaching…providing an O scheme to finally produce from.

Moore equipped Hurrs to run the offense yet Hurts had his worst season as a passer under Moore…. But Hurts proved he was more then capable doesn’t even add up lol 😂

The only thing that has been shown consistently is if we don’t have a top D unit and a top 5 ground game we struggle…. Hopefully that changes this year but can’t say I have a ton of faith we can win consistently if we are asking Hurts to throw more

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The only thing that has been shown consistently is if we don’t have a top D unit and a top 5 ground game we struggle…. Hopefully that changes this year but can’t say I have a ton of faith we can win consistently if we are asking Hurts to throw more

So that's the issue. If you need all that then your QB isn't worth the $60 million contract that is going to be market value for elite level QBs that don't need elite running game and elite defense

Hurts needs to become a running threat again. The "unknown" factor keeps D's at bay. When teams found out about his side deal and pulling a Houdini, D's just teed off. The D will be good, but even a great D can't be on the field forever, the O needs to perform to give them a breather. So maybe Hurts doesn't need to run ALOT,but he needs to bring that threat back. Not on called QB runs, Hurts is best on broken plays. But he used to run for 10-15 yards, the 2 yards scared OOB or falling down like a little girl doesn't cut it for QB 19/32. He keeps saying "I need to do better", yes you do, so top talking and get on with it

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts needs to become a running threat again

It’s a band-aid at best though how much longer can we realistically rely on Hurts as a runner. He is completely different type of player than Lamar or Vick who were always going to have speed.

Hurts feels like he is more in the realm of Russel Wilson and we seen his fall off when he could no longer run around

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It’s a band-aid at best though how much longer can we realistically rely on Hurts as a runner. He is completely different type of player than Lamar or Vick who were always going to have speed.

Hurts feels like he is more in the realm of Russel Wilson and we seen his fall off when he could no longer run around

Yeah I agree. Another issue I have with Hurts is his hesitation. He needs to make a decision and get the damn ball out. He also has issues turning his back on defenses. Just not quite sure what to expect here yet. I seriously would love to see McKee play with the 1's. When we see him it's always with the 2's and 3's, so hard to compare anything. The WC O is alot more passing,but we play better the less Hurts passes.so something has to give,it can't be both. We heard Hurts was missing guys right and left. Should be able to make those throws regardless who is at WR(unless they are serious chumps). So Hopefully Hurts understands what he has to do. Hope our O line can stay healthy. Without that, Hurts is just horrible at getting the ball away under pressure. if he decides he's not going to run, that becomes a big Q for me

Tank is a good player, we need to lean on him more. Most everyone has said the same thing. Shipley was supposed to pick up Gains reps, but he hasn't done it. I love Bark don't get me wrong but Tank can hold his own. Ship can go away as far as I'm concerned. I was never a fan

44 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Tank is a good player, we need to lean on him more. Most everyone has said the same thing. Shipley was supposed to pick up Gains reps, but he hasn't done it. I love Bark don't get me wrong but Tank can hold his own. Ship can go away as far as I'm concerned. I was never a fan

I think Shipley is a solid receiving back in limited reps clearly lacking as a pure runner and unsure of how he does as a blocker in pass pro.

Doesn’t really seem to have much of a role though right now as long as we have Barkley who is better in every area. Then Tank is the better pure runner and should be the #2 guy.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think Shipley is a solid receiving back in limited reps clearly lacking as a pure runner and unsure of how he does as a blocker in pass pro.

Doesn’t really seem to have much of a role though right now as long as we have Barkley who is better in every area. Then Tank is the better pure runner and should be the #2 guy.

Will be interesting to see if we use Hollywood out of the backfield on a few plays. Nothing fancy but some different looks

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Will be interesting to see if we use Hollywood out of the backfield on a few plays. Nothing fancy but some different looks

The orbit motion.....love that as a possible reverse just to keep the defense guessing with our running QB who could fake and run the opposite way..or the RB up the middle.

With the limited QB that we have we need to play to those strengths. I expect another 2024 where we try all the normal plays early in the year until the OC figures out that he needs to adjust to the QB's limitations.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

The orbit motion.....love that as a possible reverse just to keep the defense guessing with our running QB who could fake and run the opposite way..or the RB up the middle.

With the limited QB that we have we need to play to those strengths. I expect another 2024 where we try all the normal plays early in the year until the OC figures out that he needs to adjust to the QB's limitations.

Those misdirection plays used to work well when Hurts would take off running. But I have no clue what version of Hurts we see now

On 6/13/2026 at 10:35 AM, joemas6 said:

There were videos from years prior if him being under center and throwing over the middle in OTAs and camps every year. The one local reporter gets mocked for charting his passes in OTAs and camp.

If he did it 5 to 10 times per day in years past... why does ot matter if he does it 20 times per day now?

It's not new. Doing it more is not new or different....it's just more. Not an excuse for poor performance.

Not being a dick...just stating the obvious where it should be to you as an Eagles fan also...especially if you mentioned videos from camp... that means you should know this right?

Just sounds like an excuse for the QB entering his 7th season that another poster on here would give. Which other QB in the league would get this excuse...because he is doing in " more" .not anything " new" I don't think any other QB would get that pass.

He the QB been stuck under the weakest HC that can’t develop anybody

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He the QB been stuck under the weakest HC that can’t develop anybody

Mannion should be a huge boost. Won’t happen overnight. But dropping from under C with quick timing throws has not been a part of the repertoire.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mannion should be a huge boost. Won’t happen overnight. But dropping from under C with quick timing throws has not been a part of the repertoire.

It’s a whole very detailed process actually.

On 6/13/2026 at 11:07 AM, joemas6 said:

So it's nothing new then right...no excuse really for throwing a 9 yard pass directly at the defense in a 7 on 7 drill without any real pressure.

Wicks mentioned players weren’t lining up correctly or running correct routes. Who knows what happened?