3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s great with Hurts on a Brotherly Shove. Exactly what everybody is trying to avoid otherwise. Hand signals headsets…guys trying to cheat and read playcalls. What did Bellicheat get busted doing? Heck Harbaugh was just doing what last season? You really think it’s irrelevant? 

So let me ask you. On 4th downs or 3rd and inches the defenses did not know we would run the tush push?? They knew we were and could not stop it. That is execution not play calling

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What is the answer to reading the blitz? It is the quick accurate timing passing game.

2022...wasn't always a quick pass.

43 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm in the "lets see his talents up close and who else we have and let the kid learn and grow camp"

So you are framing things based on our needs more than his natural position fit?

39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Let him cover AJ and Smith and the new Smith .He will get schooled rather quickly,so will Mitchell and that's what we want to happen

So play him outside CB first instead of S?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So let me ask you. On 4th downs or 3rd and inches the defenses did not know we would run the tush push?? They knew we were and could not stop it. That is execution not play calling

So if I can run a B gap RB for 12 yards EVERY TIME and you can't stop me why would I need 27 other plays?

39 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

How often today...do you have anyone 5 years in the same scheme?

The game has changed.  

You bring up Mahomes a bunch. How would you compare Hurts his second season ever in the same scheme with the same OC and QB coach? MVP runner up were the official results 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So play him outside CB first instead of S?

Let him cover all 3.He has to learn NFL speed first off. Usually that is what surprises college guys the most is how much faster things happen. Maybe we use Dejean differently depending on who we play. If their WR;s are not top rate we can play him where we think he can be the most effective.he is not going to match speed with Lamb,but you want him out there anyhow?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie was real clear after the first draft pick…going to concentrate on Quinyon learning that outside CB spot first before even bogging him down with slot job…but stayed age knows he can do it and travel..eventually.

I get a simple answer there.   Mitchell in competition with Bradberry.  The goal is to get him ready to take over for Bradberry...yesterday!   That's priority. 

I take nothing else from that statement. 

I would think someone like yourself who drools over those old school shut down CBs ...would see it the same way.

But... if anyone is to make something more ...lol.

But seriously...that's all it seems. We should all be on board with that.

41 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

How often today...do you have anyone 5 years in the same scheme?

The game has changed.  

Did you notice the defense last year being masters at Patricia’s D right away when we switched?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Let him cover all 3.He has to learn NFL speed first off. Usually that is what surprises college guys the most is how much faster things happen. Maybe we use Dejean differently depending on who we play. If their WR;s are not top rate we can play him where we think he can be the most effective.he is not going to match speed with Lamb,but you want him out there anyhow?

Let's see if he can cover our new slot guy. 1 on 1 college guy on college guy. I would do that first. Let him cover A smiths slot routes,let A Smith play out just for fun at camp and let him cover that. Besides the speed he needs to learn different receivers. I'm sure that was somewhat limited in Iowa

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you are framing things based on our needs more than his natural position fit?

Combo must be taken into consideration.  I mean....let me ask you... don't you think Mitchell was selected because he could be the shutdown outside guy.

And the allure of Dejean is his versatility?

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

This particular play I keep showing.... if the slot guy is supposed to cover the outside...he should immediately run there, not engage with the slot guy...this play here was already a couple steps after the snap.   

So did the guy mentally miss the assignment...or was this an idiotic scheme? This happened way too often for me to think it was a missed assignment. 

Slot guy clearly is outside leverage of the slot receiver…it’s the breaking point….you know for those plays the O doesn’t yell out the exact playcall. The outside WR could do a million things other than go short out. The Slot WR could be the guy going out…Or hook. It’s called Zone.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So play him outside CB first instead of S?

On May 6th he plays outside CB.  On May 7th he plays S.

Or visa versa.   Is that really an issue?

Like for real you are looking at this as a problem rather than opportunities?

Here's Cooper on the #1 WR taken in the draft

Go back the fifty pages before the draft started. It was very plainly written with lines showing exactly what I’m telling you if my sentences aren’t clear enough. Had the slot guy with his line on the short out zone responsibility.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's Cooper on the #1 WR taken in the draft

That tape shows me play him at outside lockdown CB, right?

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's Cooper on the #1 WR taken in the draft

Now he looks good vs Harrison BUT they are short routes.; he would get burned on deep routes in man. Thus between the 20's maybe he should play slot CB or S, or zone. This is the verstality he offers

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

As I keep posting.If I have 2 plays and you can't stop me on either one it doesn't matter what we do or what you do.Unless you stop me I will run those plays to death

And you’ve witnessed how many winning NFL games this be the strategy?zero…ok moving on

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You bring up Mahomes a bunch. How would you compare Hurts his second season ever in the same scheme with the same OC and QB coach? MVP runner up were the official results 

With the easiest schedule I've ever seen for the Eagles...and the best WR duo as well.     

But that's great then...think about it...2025 Hurts MVP candidate after 2nd year under Moore.   

Idk what you are trying to say....seems like you are searching for problems or reasons for failure?   

If you have faith in your players...and their intangibles... I don't get it?  

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That tape shows me play him at outside lockdown CB, right?

On short yardage yes(see other post)

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why don't we let the kids get moved,meet their neighbors and teammates. Find out where the restrooms are at the Linc. We have(I assume) pro coaches not pee wee dads who do this on weekends.I would think they have all been down this road already?

We’ve seen coaches do fantastic…and totally screw things up

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And you’ve witnessed how many winning NFL games this be the strategy?zero…ok moving on

How many games did we win with the tush push when they KNEW it was coming. ok moving on.....

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Did you notice the defense last year being masters at Patricia’s D right away when we switched?

Yeah.... they mastered the art of giving a 12 yard cushion.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We’ve seen coaches do fantastic…and totally screw things up

Guess we''ll find out in Rio and from camp reports

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hyperfocused on don't be aggressive....while rushing 157 times?

Actually? Pretty much