26 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

That's what an audible is..isn't it? 

No! An audible is utilized by a QB to get out of a bad playcall.

Playcalling is done by a professional O mind getting paid to do that job. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Who gets hit on a blitz?  You get hit...wouldn't you make the audible for protection?

The QBs constantly do it 

What is it you believe coaches are getting paid to do? You seem to be lumping HC, OC, QB coach, Passing Game coordinator, QB and playcaller all on the plate of Jalen Hurts here.

John Mara on Hard Knocks candidly stating how he’ll have a hard time sleeping if the Eagles get Saquan. Priceless!

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are telling me you expect Hurts to change ever play basically. It was a common theme …especially to end our season. So why are you relieving all blame from the coaches? I just quoted Siri on how Hurts had bailed us out several times before n the first half of the season…particularly to win the fake versus the Chiefs. I just think there has to be a limit on expectations placed on the QB. Even your answer expecting Hurts to audible is an admittance of a failure of the coaches. Not sure how you can’t admit and college you are even saying this in yourself…in blaming Hurts for not changing the playcall even more. But in such clear demonstration of the coaches showing they have no answers ….there is no case you can make the coaches were instructing Hurts to adjust and he just wasn’t accepting coaching.

I expect Hurts to see 6 guys lined up on the line...and i know the empty backfield isn't going to work.  Bring in a  blocker. 

If the QB  can't tell one guy to come block....that's a problem. 

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You expect a higher level of performance from the O than the investment the FO placed in the coaching to accomplish such. Coaches don’t even count against the salary cap. So that can’t even be an excuse.

I think a jump to Moore from Johnson is decent.   I think the jump from Swift and a zero 3rd RB....to Barkley and Shipley is significant...  and I think the slot position having better fits... is a moderate jump.

Put all 3 together,  and you said the offense was already ranked 7th???   I expect elite. 

Plus... again, i believe the reports that Hurts has had his best offseason as a pro. 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I expect Hurts to see 6 guys lined up on the line...and i know the empty backfield isn't going to work.  Bring in a  blocker. 

If the QB  can't tell one guy to come block....that's a problem. 

The playcaller with the whole stadium knowing blitz is coming couldn’t do that. That’s exactly what I’m saying. We all knew and expected the situation…yet the play was called anyway.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think a jump to Moore from Johnson is decent.   I think the jump from Swift and a zero 3rd RB....to Barkley and Shipley is significant...  and I think the slot position having better fits... is a moderate jump.

Put all 3 together,  and you said the offense was already ranked 7th???   I expect elite. 

Plus... again, i believe the reports that Hurts has had his best offseason as a pro. 

All depends on the definition of elite. The O was elite statistically most of last season. But to me that key bump from good to elite is the hardest achievement. It isn’t something Parris Campbell is getting us over the hump with.

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think a jump to Moore from Johnson is decent.   I think the jump from Swift and a zero 3rd RB....to Barkley and Shipley is significant...  and I think the slot position having better fits... is a moderate jump.

Put all 3 together,  and you said the offense was already ranked 7th???   I expect elite. 

Plus... again, i believe the reports that Hurts has had his best offseason as a pro. 

So if Saquan gets injured…you don’t expect elite?

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

John Mara on Hard Knocks candidly stating how he’ll have a hard time sleeping if the Eagles get Saquan. Priceless!

The GM just trying to believe so hard ...Chicago drove the price up....Philly is out. 

Now I'm sure the Giants knew before it was broadcasted about Barkley coming here...but if not, imagine the reaction 3 minutes into it when Swift signed with Chicago...lol.   

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Playcalling is done by a professional O mind getting paid to do that job. 

What is it you believe coaches are getting paid to do? You seem to be lumping HC, OC, QB coach, Passing Game coordinator, QB and playcaller all on the plate of Jalen Hurts here.

If the QB wasn't allowed to simply signal a guy to come in to pass protect... that's a system issue for sure.  If he was allowed to make that " adjustment " at the line, but didn't...then it's on the QB. 

Either way... new system...and I definitely  believe this has been discussed and the QB will now make the adjustment. 

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The playcaller with the whole stadium knowing blitz is coming couldn’t do that. That’s exactly what I’m saying. We all knew and expected the situation…yet the play was called anyway.

A play is called for the Giants....they have open  backfield...  Do you think Daniel Jones calls one of his guys to come in and pass protect?

Again..while your obsession is to avoid any blame for Hurts...  my belief that they addressed Hurts responsibility in making these adjustments. 

You see.... the childhood friend... maybe can't get past Hurts being a child...mentally.    Moore and his QB coach don't know the preteen Hurts...they only know the adult, so they come in ready to give him adult responsibility. 

 Hurts also isn't held back by the mental training wheels... and he finally experienced adversity as a pro... the first offseason where nobody kissed his ass.   I believe this helps him mature a lot. 

Great for the team.

If you can get past 2023 and who you want to blame and move on to where you see this helps Hurts now.  Then maybe you will get it.

But I'm thinking this is like 2019 cap...you just can’t get past it 

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So if Saquan gets injured…you don’t expect elite?

What if Swift got hurt?

Let me ask though. 

Do you always go into every season focused on all the bad things that can happen.. who gets injured etc?

If Trent Williams gets injured what do you expect from the 49ers offense? Elite?

Is this why your wedding caused all this anxiety?   Constant thinking of all the worst possible things happening? 

Just curious... 

If a team lost its MVP level QB

Its best LB, the signal caller in the middle 

It's playmaking RB, returner/ YAC creation specialist 

It's best ST player / 3rd safety

It's starting LT who was playing at a pro bowl level.

... if that roster was deep enough to have the best record and win the Superbowl... would it be safe to say it was the best roster in the league that year?  Probably by a good amount after losing all those key pieces ?

That was us 2017.  That's rare to have that kind of depth.  I don't see SF being able to do it. Trent Williams and their LB...forget even losing CMC.  KC loses Mahomes, they got no shot.

You can't go into every season just expecting the worst.   Do you see a roster built today that could sustain those key injuries and still be " elite"?

22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

If the QB wasn't allowed to simply signal a guy to come in to pass protect... that's a system issue for sure.  If he was allowed to make that " adjustment " at the line, but didn't...then it's on the QB. 

Either way... new system...and I definitely  believe this has been discussed and the QB will now make the adjustment. 

If the whole stadium knew it was going to be like that before the play was called? That’s my key point. How can you excuse the playcall yet blame the QB? We all knew blitz was coming, right? I mean it seemed so very incredibly obvious to me. Maybe I’m making too much of an assumption…but shouldn’t have just been me expecting blitz. Didn’t you expect blitz? 

22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

A play is called for the Giants....they have open  backfield...  Do you think Daniel Jones calls one of his guys to come in and pass protect?

If the whole stadium is expecting blitz do you not think Dabol is calling a blitz beating play?

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again..while your obsession is to avoid any blame for Hurts...  my belief that they addressed Hurts responsibility in making these adjustments. 

You see.... the childhood friend... maybe can't get past Hurts being a child...mentally.    Moore and his QB coach don't know the preteen Hurts...they only know the adult, so they come in ready to give him adult responsibility. 

 Hurts also isn't held back by the mental training wheels... and he finally experienced adversity as a pro... the first offseason where nobody kissed his ass.   I believe this helps him mature a lot. 

Great for the team.

If you can get past 2023 and who you want to blame and move on to where you see this helps Hurts now.  Then maybe you will get it.

But I'm thinking this is like 2019 cap...you just can’t get past it 

Getting past 2023 is just so you can pretend to be ignorant about the situation. Let’s face reality instead. Like I’ve stated Hurts is only 25..,had different coordinators every year. So he still has lessons to learn. Let’s not avoid that. But let’s also not avoid that the higher ups…the HC and OC didn’t have the answers either. Much more damning and embarrassing. 

Start at square one. Whole stadium expects blitz. What play you call? 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Start at square one. Whole stadium expects blitz. What play you call? 

AR, McVay, Shannahan, Dabol, O’Connel, McDaniel, Bellicheat, Taylor, Ben Johnson, Slowik, Payton, Pedey….they all have tons of answers here

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

AR, McVay, Shannahan, Dabol, O’Connel, McDaniel, Bellicheat, Taylor, Johnson, Slowik, Payton, Pedey….they all have tons of answers here

This list better include Moore or we are screwed. But the list very clearly doesn’t include Johnson and Siri.

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What if Swift got hurt?

You are the one sited Saquan as the reason you expect us to be elite

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Let me ask though. 

Do you always go into every season focused on all the bad things that can happen.. who gets injured etc?

If Trent Williams gets injured what do you expect from the 49ers offense? Elite?

Is this why your wedding caused all this anxiety?   Constant thinking of all the worst possible things happening? 

They have a brilliant O mind in Shannahan to adjust. But losing the top Oline player on the league makes a huge difference no doubt.

18 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Let me ask though. 

Do you always go into every season focused on all the bad things that can happen.. who gets injured etc?

If Trent Williams gets injured what do you expect from the 49ers offense? Elite?

Is this why your wedding caused all this anxiety?   Constant thinking of all the worst possible things happening? 

My wedding didn’t cause me all that anxiety. See you missed the whole story. So what’s the point in Trying to explain anything to you. Was it a massive ordeal that took up a bunch of my attention? Yes it did.

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Just curious... 

If a team lost its MVP level QB

Its best LB, the signal caller in the middle 

It's playmaking RB, returner/ YAC creation specialist 

It's best ST player / 3rd safety

It's starting LT who was playing at a pro bowl level.

... if that roster was deep enough to have the best record and win the Superbowl... would it be safe to say it was the best roster in the league that year?  Probably by a good amount after losing all those key pieces ?

That was us 2017.  That's rare to have that kind of depth.  I don't see SF being able to do it. Trent Williams and their LB...forget even losing CMC.  KC loses Mahomes, they got no shot.

You can't go into every season just expecting the worst.   Do you see a roster built today that could sustain those key injuries and still be " elite"?

You sited Saquan, a third RB and some mythical slot WR I don’t even know who you’re talking about as reasons we should move to elite this season. Your list. So seems obvious to ask you if Saquan gets injured does it change your expectations drastically. Especially from my viewpoint of not understanding your slot player you see as the big upgrade…or understanding the third RB contribution to the elite O contribution equation.