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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Our long term top O minded HC

Is this going to be another Ziggy Anzah better than Lane.... another Howie shouldn't have traded with the Saints...  long annoying agenda that you keep talking over and over....and over and over.... and over and over again???

Let it go and talk reality.  We have a coach.  

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

OZ and Julio were upgrades over Quez you are forgetting 

Which one did we use with the orbit motion,  end around and screens for YAC creation?

But I don’t know that Campbell or Smith are in fact upgrades. Smith will be eventually. How long will he take though? Clearly have eyes on him this TC and PS. But not just need to develop him receiving…need him to harden his body for durability to withstand a long pro season.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Is this going to be another Ziggy Anzah better than Lane.... another Howie shouldn't have traded with the Saints...  long annoying agenda that you keep talking over and over....and over and over.... and over and over again???

Let it go and talk reality.  We have a coach.  

We kept the coach that lost our team and failed to adjust and gave any answers …because they realized the good options weren’t available this past offseason. Basically was a choice between tearing everything up for Bellicheat. The plan needs to be about what it will take to secure a top guy in Slowik this next offseason. Lions OC a big candidate also. These are good fitting options for Rosie to not have to give up all his power to.

Or if Moore is wildly successful and earns the job then he gets promoted. At this moment probably the most ideal situation for us. But I don’t view him so highly.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But I don’t know that Campbell or Smith are in fact upgrades. Smith will be eventually. How long will he take though? Clearly have eyes on him this TC and PS. But not just need to develop him receiving…need him to harden his body for durability to withstand a long pro season.

Didn't you say a little while back...." football is a simple game"

Why can't Smith be ready to run a few routes right away?

How many hours do you think he spends working on football between rookie camp and the start of the season?  

Why do you make things so complicated?

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which one did we use with the orbit motion,  end around and screens for YAC creation?

You seem to be using Quez 7 catches as the comparison for upgrade. Yet Quez was like the fifth WR option last season. OZ id prefer over Parris as a WR probably…and he blocked his butt of at least. Held on and caught passes…the few that came his way.

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which one did we use with the orbit motion,  end around and screens for YAC creation?

Just Goedert pretty much.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We kept the coach that lost our team and failed to adjust and gave any answers …because they realized the good options weren’t available this past offseason. Basically was a choice between tearing everything up for Bellicheat. The plan needs to be about what it will take to secure a top guy in Slowik this next offseason. Lions OC a big candidate also. These are good fitting options for Rosie to not have to give up all his power to.

Well... maybe read up and pay attention to what's going on. 

Riff between QB and coach 

Players backed the coach...not happy with the QB

QB wanted more aggressive offense, coach wanted more conservative ... 

The organization changed coordinators and first big move was signing the best available RB.

But again....you were thinking they were going to get penalized for tampering...because it makes a great TMZ, Bleacher report,  Barstool story. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You seem to be using Quez 7 catches as the comparison for upgrade. Yet Quez was like the fifth WR option last season. OZ id prefer over Parris as a WR probably…and he blocked his butt of at least. Held on and caught passes…the few that came his way.

Which one would you prefer on the orbit motion, end around or with the ball looking to get YAC?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just Goedert pretty much.

There you go....sometimes you start to get it....just finish the thought now. 

Which WRs do you think compliment AJ and Smith better?   

Like forget the names....just the styles.  What do you think would compliment Barkley, Goedert,  AJ and Smitty better?  Do they need a blocking WR?  One to run a go route?   A possession guy?  Or maybe a guy that can move all around, stretch the defense sideways, and take advantage once he has the ball in his hands? 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or if Moore is wildly successful and earns the job then he gets promoted. At this moment probably the most ideal situation for us. But I don’t view him so highly.

How many times have you seen a successful team ....fire the head coach to promote a coordinator ?

You have an agenda... when you get an agenda,  your mind starts to wander from reality.   

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Well... maybe read up and pay attention to what's going on. 

Riff between QB and coach 

Players backed the coach...not happy with the QB

QB wanted more aggressive offense, coach wanted more conservative ... 

The organization changed coordinators and first big move was signing the best available RB.

But again....you were thinking they were going to get penalized for tampering...because it makes a great TMZ, Bleacher report,  Barstool story. 

Yeah not what I’ve heard. I was hearing g leaks about how stale things were DURING last season. So what players arent happy with the QB?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah not what I’ve heard. I was hearing g leaks about how stale things were DURING last season. So what players arent happy with the QB?

That the O was much more under Siri control than we even knew last season. So fired Johnson as a scapegoat for Siri’s O. They obviously were considering firing Siri for Bellicheat. Just didn’t want to uproot everything for the two seasons Bellicheat would still coach for. Meaning they wanted to make a change…but the right guy wasn’t available this past offseason, yet these top two choices will be available this next offseason. 

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58 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There you go....sometimes you start to get it....just finish the thought now. 

Which WRs do you think compliment AJ and Smith better?   

Like forget the names....just the styles.  What do you think would compliment Barkley, Goedert,  AJ and Smitty better?  Do they need a blocking WR?  One to run a go route?   A possession guy?  Or maybe a guy that can move all around, stretch the defense sideways, and take advantage once he has the ball in his hands? 

All of the above. Why we added ASmith and Johnny and have Paris. it's about mismatches depending who you play. Once Johnny and ASmith get up to speed,we can plug guys in to exploit the matchup. Sometimes you need a twitch guy other times a big dude who can go up and win "air balls". It's nice to have both. In time, I suspect we see Johnny inside the RZ or in 12 personnel although IDK at this point how his blocking skills are,but he has a big frame and TE2 is far from decided. In any case, for me, it's about time we see some short crossing patterns over the MIDDLE where Hurts can hit them in stride.I'm sure if you hit ASmith enough times he can break a tackle and take it to the house

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

How many times have you seen a successful team ....fire the head coach to promote a coordinator ?

You have an agenda... when you get an agenda,  your mind starts to wander from reality.   

I do t care if it’s never been done. If it’s the right choice…make the right choices. Steichen was the more valuable coach we should have kept over Siri. Bad choices before last season. Moore was supposedly the runner up for the HC job when Siri was hired. So he basically gets his shot to earn the job this season. If not…need to already be working on what we can do to lure a top HC option here.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

There you go....sometimes you start to get it....just finish the thought now. 

Which WRs do you think compliment AJ and Smith better?   

Like forget the names....just the styles.  What do you think would compliment Barkley, Goedert,  AJ and Smitty better?  Do they need a blocking WR?  One to run a go route?   A possession guy?  Or maybe a guy that can move all around, stretch the defense sideways, and take advantage once he has the ball in his hands? 

I’ve said a WR that has the versatility to play every WR position would be ideal. Then you can move AJ and Smitty around to not be so predictable to the D. Get that guy.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

How many times have you seen a successful team ....fire the head coach to promote a coordinator ?

You have an agenda... when you get an agenda,  your mind starts to wander from reality.   

How many times have we seen the FO ego get in the way forcing a HC firing so quickly after winning a SB? Probably just the twice. Jimmy Johnson and Pedey. Things don’t happen…until they happen. What team has ever completely been lost by their coach so terribly like last years Eagles team and that coach was retained the next season? It just happened.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah not what I’ve heard. I was hearing g leaks about how stale things were DURING last season. So what players arent happy with the QB?

Yeah...the " stale was the coach saying it "  

I think you have to understand the owner is in charge.  Read up on things that the owner prioritizes in his coaches.  And you can also see trends.  

You are i love with this " offensive mind" ... the Eagles made one hire with that in mind... your boy Chip.   You think the owner goes down that route again?

55 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Anonymous ex exec leaks out so timely just before players report to TC. Anybody with an actual brain can see through this as Lurie creating this story because confidence in Siri is so freaking low. There isn’t even anything to this fluff made up …purely timing placed story. Pathetic you actually even reposted this fluff BS story that actually doesn’t say anything really…or attributed to any real person actually saying it. Laughable!!!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Anonymous ex exec leaks out so timely just before players report to TC. Anybody with an actual brain can see through this as Lurie creating this story because confidence in Siri is so freaking low. There isn’t even anything to this fluff made up …purely timing placed story. Pathetic you actually even reposted this fluff BS story that actually doesn’t say anything really…or attributed to any real person actually saying it. Laughable!!!

Worse than laughable actually. Desperate and pathetic attempt. 

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That the O was much more under Siri control than we even knew last season. So fired Johnson as a scapegoat for Siri’s O. They obviously were considering firing Siri for Bellicheat. Just didn’t want to uproot everything for the two seasons Bellicheat would still coach for. Meaning they wanted to make a change…but the right guy wasn’t available this past offseason, yet these top two choices will be available this next offseason. 

Yeah... the narrative Siri felt he had to babysit Johnson.  Feeling his overall watch on the team suffered.  He wanted Moore, the owner paid up for Moore... brought in the RB.

Again... the owner is all that matters here.  You seem to forget that.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Anonymous ex exec leaks out so timely just before players report to TC. Anybody with an actual brain can see through this as Lurie creating this story because confidence in Siri is so freaking low. There isn’t even anything to this fluff made up …purely timing placed story. Pathetic you actually even reposted this fluff BS story that actually doesn’t say anything really…or attributed to any real person actually saying it. Laughable!!!

The story in March????

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