Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Listen to the presses or read about what the HC says. I place the blame where it belongs in my eyes. This is part of Siri’s team core values. Just fact. I didn’t just make the crap up.

Listen to the press conferences...

Tell me at what point does Siri ever not take responsibility for anything bad?

And when does he not immediately give credit to someone else ?

That's what he does.   Tell me once where you saw anything different?

That's why it's a waste of time for the most part.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But the first halves Siri couldn't stop those teams.

You want to give Siri props for our D. Go ahead. An explanation would be needed to explain such an outlandish theory however.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Something AR brutally punished us with to end 2022. Kind of surprised me it didn’t stick with Mahomes though. He really struggled in 2023 much too long to get back to doing that. But he obviously got there by the end…which I guess is all that matters.

Something pretty much everyone punished us for last year.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Well... tough to stop when you are playing 8 yards behind everyone?

 

Tough to get sacks when the receivers aren’t challenged off any timing and catch passes so quickly.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You want to give Siri props for our D. Go ahead. An explanation would be needed to explain such an outlandish theory however.

Lol...I just said Siri couldn't stop those teams in the 1st half...how is that giving props?

Just now, joemas6 said:

Something pretty much everyone punished us for last year.

The holes have been there the whole time honestly …since Siri arrived. Blame whomever you like. But it wasn’t Schwartz.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Tough to get sacks when the receivers aren’t challenged off any timing and catch passes so quickly.

Agreed... tough to do anything when you give that cushion.  But yet this doesn't translate to you that I didn't like the scheme?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Lol...I just said Siri couldn't stop those teams in the 1st half...how is that giving props?

It would be alluding to he was the reasoning for second half success.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The holes have been there the whole time honestly …since Siri arrived. Blame whomever you like. But it wasn’t Schwartz.

I blame Siri and Howie for the lack of success the last 3 years.    Especially after that awesome 2020 season.

Idk...call me crazy for liking the fact we got an experienced DC....and going back to the head coach not calling the plays and just managing the game...after seeing the difference between 2022and 2023.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It would be alluding to he was the reasoning for second half success.

Or... the obvious... alluding to the idea he wasn't involved much in either?   

Really wasn't that obvious? 

Just now, joemas6 said:

Agreed... tough to do anything when you give that cushion.  But yet this doesn't translate to you that I didn't like the scheme?

I’ve been saying that all along. Not really my cup of tea. But at least we have the actual Fangio runningthe Fangio D now. I mean playing super soft coverage and not tackling well has been a really tough combo to digest. But this is where I do always come back to Siri’s mandate of the D not giving up big plays. I don’t even know a single other D philosophy or thought Siri has. He preaches stay over the top whatever you do. I like aggressive D personally. You don’t want to give up big plays…but that just means you play D well to me.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Or... the obvious... alluding to the idea he wasn't involved much in either?   

Really wasn't that obvious? 

Not after you just accused me of blaming Siri for any negatives..,and you came back with the statement concerning the D about Siri

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Or... the obvious... alluding to the idea he wasn't involved much in either?   

Really wasn't that obvious? 

He has his HC mandate for his D won’t give up any big plays. I don’t know any other factor he plays on the D side of the ball. He does supposedly keep the D players competitively sharp with some high stakes Rock, Paper Scissors

See I'm consistent.  I believe the coach oversees stuff.  I can't give him credit or blame for specific details...I think that is the coordinators...good and bad.  Not only bad when it's Siri.

Do we all think Siri was involved in the offense more last year?  Absolutely. 

Just seems that you think Siri did so out of ego ... I think he did so out of thinking that Johnson needed the help.

You don't find it odd that the game management seemed off last year compared to the previous year and a half?   Clock stuff etc.

I see a coach having to invest too much time in an area that was insufficient and it made his game management suffer.

Now he goes back to what has worked... why would we complain?  

 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He has his HC mandate for his D won’t give up any big plays. I don’t know any other factor he plays on the D side of the ball. He does supposedly keep the D players competitively sharp with some high stakes Rock, Paper Scissors

Oh wait he gets emotionally charged and yells at Reddick while he’s trying to talk to his position coach. But positive wise when not under pressure Siri championed Reddick as The Closer during the press conference. So he plays his consistent role🙃

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve been saying that all along. Not really my cup of tea. But at least we have the actual Fangio runningthe Fangio D now. I mean playing super soft coverage and not tackling well has been a really tough combo to digest. But this is where I do always come back to Siri’s mandate of the D not giving up big plays. I don’t even know a single other D philosophy or thought Siri has. He preaches stay over the top whatever you do. I like aggressive D personally. You don’t want to give up big plays…but that just means you play D well to me.

Again..." I've been saying it all along"  

You completely skip over the fact or acknowledge what I'm saying ...and make it all about you.   All the time. 

All the time.  That's why you think you come up with everything. 

You argued with me for days after I showed the photo... yet never acknowledge that I didn't like the scheme. 

You do the same for the other guys here.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See I'm consistent.  I believe the coach oversees stuff.  I can't give him credit or blame for specific details...I think that is the coordinators...good and bad.  Not only bad when it's Siri.

Do we all think Siri was involved in the offense more last year?  Absolutely. 

Just seems that you think Siri did so out of ego ... I think he did so out of thinking that Johnson needed the help.

You don't find it odd that the game management seemed off last year compared to the previous year and a half?   Clock stuff etc.

I see a coach having to invest too much time in an area that was insufficient and it made his game management suffer.

Now he goes back to what has worked... why would we complain?  

 

But he cried at the SB.....................3-14

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See I'm consistent.  I believe the coach oversees stuff.  I can't give him credit or blame for specific details...I think that is the coordinators...good and bad.  Not only bad when it's Siri.

Do we all think Siri was involved in the offense more last year?  Absolutely. 

Just seems that you think Siri did so out of ego ... I think he did so out of thinking that Johnson needed the help.

You don't find it odd that the game management seemed off last year compared to the previous year and a half?   Clock stuff etc.

I see a coach having to invest too much time in an area that was insufficient and it made his game management suffer.

Now he goes back to what has worked... why would we complain?  

 

I don’t know if o actually put all the bad man agent on Siri. I actually probably blame Hurts on several occasions here. That TD near the end of the Commaders game. He didn’t get out of bounds before the half of the giants game. And the death decision on the long ball to AJ on fourth down against the Seachickens. The year before I actually can point towards Sanders in some bad clock management. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh wait he gets emotionally charged and yells at Reddick while he’s trying to talk to his position coach. But positive wise when not under pressure Siri championed Reddick as The Closer during the press conference. So he plays his consistent role🙃

Siri..." championed" Reddick the closer... lol

Dude...whatever you do for a living...you should consider being a writer... you know how to glamorize everything.  Great with spin too

 

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again..." I've been saying it all along"  

You completely skip over the fact or acknowledge what I'm saying ...and make it all about you.   All the time. 

All the time.  That's why you think you come up with everything. 

You argued with me for days after I showed the photo... yet never acknowledge that I didn't like the scheme. 

You do the same for the other guys here.

First thing I said was what you actually don’t like is the playcall. Then tried to explain to you why.

But you know even in Man coverage many times CBs can choose how they like to play things. So they could line up in a similar off fashion of 6 yards even in Man.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Siri..." championed" Reddick the closer... lol

Dude...whatever you do for a living...you should consider being a writer... you know how to glamorize everything.  Great with spin too

 

You’d have to pay an editor a fortune for that gig 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t know if o actually put all the bad man agent on Siri. I actually probably blame Hurts on several occasions here. That TD near the end of the Commaders game. He didn’t get out of bounds before the half of the giants game. And the death decision on the long ball to AJ on fourth down against the Seachickens. The year before I actually can point towards Sanders in some bad clock management. 

I'll throw another thing out there..

Doug...my favorite game day play caller for the Eagles...since Vermeil.

Year 1, disagreed with a bunch of game day management...game management stuff.  

Year 2, everything was on point...details stuff.  I absolutely believe he allowed Reich to have more control of the game plan etc,  and just then focused on calling plays that were given to him and managing the game.

He lost Reich,  either he had to do too much again or the other guys weren't good enough.

Similar to Siri....  Doug however wanted to keep his guys... and have the same process. Siri decided to get outside help because it didn't work.

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But he cried at the SB.....................3-14

Solid as a rock

Doug had Reich....  Siri had Steichen 

Both had guys who didn't work...for whatever reason.   Doug wanted to keep those guys....Siri went looking for another Steichen.

I can see why one was fired and the other wasn't.   In fairness, I think Doug had a loyalty to those other guys... Johnson I don't believe ever was a Siri guy... he was a Hurts babysitter.

So easier decision to do the logical move of replacing the OC.