July 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: O mind. Garrapolo, Trey Lance, Purdy….none the baddest Qb in the land. You gotta have players and talent. They have assembled plenty of talent. But a bunch has been on the D side of the ball while still being successful. Had several very quality DCs come through and done well. Because you can find a quality D coach that you don’t have to offer the HC job and control of the team over to. But the best O minds all get their own team. Agree...not the best QBs...some darn good skill guys though and had a phenomenal run blocking OL for a few years.
July 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: What super talented D mind has Lurie hired or interviewed to take over? Take over what?
July 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: I actually would perhaps give Lurie the credit with his obsession if maybe pointing this out to me. But it’s not isolated to me…or even him. This is pretty much just become business of the NFL. Look around. The really talented top O minds get more than just a HC job. McVay and Shannahan get control and power of the team when they were hired. GMs work for them. I agree.. around the NFL.. for the Eagles....that's not how it works. They were voted the #1 front office... ( that's the combo of Lurie/ Howie and everyone else. You think they want to give up power? I understand completely....THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. You won't get me to agree that Lurie will give up the power.
July 25, 20241 yr I absolutely agree if this fails this year...Siri is out. I even agree the next coach will have an offensive background. But we disagree on 2 things. 1. If they succeed Siri stays 2. The next coach won't be hired because he is a genius play caller... he will be hired for his overall plan as a head coach, how he plans to work within the structure they have in place. People skills will be a factor a well.
July 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: A great example to make your point would be that dope under Bellicheat. Great O minded coach. Was a disaster as a HC. So I totally agree it takes more than just an O mind to be a great HC. But if you don’t hire the great O mind as your HC…you’re going to be rollercoasting searching for that hardest to find OC all the time. As soon as you have success…poached. Hire a bad OC you don’t have to lose him. So you only even have a chance to win in small windows when you make an excellent OC hire…which is the hardest one to find. The head coach is the hardest one to find, not the OC. You don't need the genius OC.
July 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said: If Moore kicks butt I’d turn the team over to him….o You would... if the Eagles kick butt... Lurie won't switch. And why would he? 1 He likes stability ... 2. He'll find another OC... you don't think they will be or are already prepared? This is the perfect job for an OC,,, talent, your run the show, team is good, and history of OC's promoted to HC. Perfect opportunity. But I don't know necessarily that Moore would get another offer? Easy perception could be our players were the factor. He has had some opportunities, what's changed now? Do we expect anything super creative on offense? I don't, just a few things different and some maturity of the QB can make a huge difference, in the offense... not to mention Barkley. I just don't think Moore would definitely be that " coveted"
July 25, 20241 yr Paul Brown ... 1946-55 Chuck Knox ... 1973-77 John Robinson.. 1983 -86 Bill Cowher ... 1987-92 John Harbaugh ... 2008-12 The only 5 coaches to make it to the playoffs 4 times in a row to start their careers ...in NFL HISTORY! Possible 6th coach to do it this year.
July 25, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: McVay, AR, Shannahan ….Pedey didnt Tampa win recently?
July 25, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Frankly Pedey had Reich and DeFillipo. A whole great cast of O mindset coaching. But you no doubt need talent. But most talented team can’t overcome crap coaching. Great coaches can adapt and make their personnel with for them…to whatever degrees of success. I’m liking me some DeMeco Ryan’s as a HC hire. Wish we got him. But can’t deny the job Slowik has done as the OC. What QB are you thinking is so great that has a bad O mind coaching him? Who were the OC's in Dallas for Aikman? Who was the great O mind for Brady all these years and in Tampa? Any of them make a good head coach? How about for Manning? And the other Manning in NY? Not a fan of McCarthy... how about the O minds of Seattle? Who was the OC for Denver when they won?
July 25, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: No doubt…from any type of HC. The top O minded coaches you can’t keep around without that HC moniker however. The Buddy Ryan family types you can get to run your D. Much more available than any quality O coach. That’s just the way the league is today. Nothing to do with my preferences or obsessions. This is the way of the NFL. If our team does great this year who’s getting poached…Fangio or Moore? Exactly. Not Fangio.... not Siri.... so Moore would be the possible one that is poached. You are a franchise.... Moore has had his history in the league. It was ok right. If the Eagles have success... but it's nothing that looks super creative, more so the talent on the field. you think teams will be jumping to get Moore? You see him as a " top O mind" just because he has success with the perceived top talented offense in the league... and your boy at QB... or just in a good situation? And if he gets poached... do you seriously think he will be that hard to replace? You already aren't that impressed with him.
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July 25, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, joemas6 said: Take over what? As HC. Who are all the D minded he has interviewed for our top job?Obviously hasn’t hired any.
July 25, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, joemas6 said: I agree.. around the NFL.. for the Eagles....that's not how it works. They were voted the #1 front office... ( that's the combo of Lurie/ Howie and everyone else. You think they want to give up power? I understand completely....THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. You won't get me to agree that Lurie will give up the power. But wait …he did actually show signs of willingness to Chip. All I’m saying is to do it with a better choice.
July 25, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, joemas6 said: Who were the OC's in Dallas for Aikman? Who was the great O mind for Brady all these years and in Tampa? Any of them make a good head coach? How about for Manning? And the other Manning in NY? Not a fan of McCarthy... how about the O minds of Seattle? Who was the OC for Denver when they won? You’re going back in time before O minds really dominated the league like now. Talking about what we need to win a championship in 2024 and forward. Not how somebody else did it decades ago. They got Fangio in place…a year late…but he’s here now. Who’s the O mind to pair with him for us to get this done?
July 25, 20241 yr Bellicheat wasn’t an O mind but is such a student of the game. But he had McDaniels whom is pretty brilliant X and O wise. Terrible HC though. 5 hours ago, joemas6 said: Not Fangio.... not Siri.... so Moore would be the possible one that is poached. You are a franchise.... Moore has had his history in the league. It was ok right. If the Eagles have success... but it's nothing that looks super creative, more so the talent on the field. you think teams will be jumping to get Moore? You see him as a " top O mind" just because he has success with the perceived top talented offense in the league... and your boy at QB... or just in a good situation? And if he gets poached... do you seriously think he will be that hard to replace? You already aren't that impressed with him. I don’t see Moore as a brilliant O mind. That’s kind of been my holdup with our whole situation. But he’s about as good as we could do for getting an experienced OC. Siri can’t develop some green young O mind. But our FO did interview him multiple times for our HC job before settling on Siri. So it’s easy to see him earning his own team by taking what didn’t look too cohesive most of the year last year here and spinning that into some gold. It’s his O. There is talent on O here. If we produce an elite O Moore will get the credit.
July 25, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: But wait …he did actually show signs of willingness to Chip. All I’m saying is to do it with a better choice. So is there a hesitancy for Rosie to want to make that potential hire again? He lost control with Chip so he wasn’t going to let Pedey do the same to him. That’s why we only look to hire the green hungry coach with potential types.
July 25, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: FWIW-Ogbah signed with Miami Saw that and it was cheaper than I had assumed like 5 mil. We are on the get these young guys reps and experience train now…full speed ahead. Nolan Smith has clearly been transforming his body. Looks beefed up for real.
July 25, 20241 yr Author Day 2 live update- 1)Hurts looks sharp 2)We are using pre snap motion Both things I wanted to hear
July 25, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: But wait …he did actually show signs of willingness to Chip. All I’m saying is to do it with a better choice. They don't want to give up power. In reality they never gave up power all the way. It was convenient that we got out of both of the MeSeans contracts ...and then a year later we're able to unload Chip's guys for barely any dead money. I think that was their way of having the excuse to keep control. Now you hire Doug then Siri..both guys just looking to coach...both success. I can't imagine they give up control ...and you believe they were considering hiring Belicheck but didn't want to give up control, but think they would to someone else ... at time of hire????
July 25, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Arians did win it with Brady Arians a genius O mind or good football guy running the whole show?
July 25, 20241 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Arians a genius O mind or good football guy running the whole show? Not to mention all that talent on O.
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