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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you expect a completely new offense with none of the same plays at all?    

Like I said, I don't expect anything revolutionary... just a competent OC running an NFL offense.

I totally expect the RPO, QB draws and Brotherly Shove to still be in the playbook.

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Not just did Siri beg to hire Moore…Coke rooted for Pepsi..Apple championed Google…Ticketmaster has been striving to keep ticket prices down…tooth fairy collaborates with the Easter bunny

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ohhhhh... so then Siri's O was successful when it was run by a legit OC.... not the childhood friend / comp pick candidate?

Siri’s O was successful when run by Steichen…just not when run by Siri

25 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m just open minded but can process the multiple scenarios playing out. See even though I’m not a fan of Moore doesn’t give me such a mental block that I can’t process correlating having success being because of him. Is he my choice? No. But he’s here. So if the number two choice for HC in 2021 succeeds running his O in 2024 here…then he should be promoted instead of losing him to a poacher. My guy would be Slowik at this moment to takeover in 2025. But I’m not forcing my agenda on things so much to ignore the other possible however unlikely scenarios.

Ok...so your 2 scenarios are

1.  The Eagles fail this year and both Siri and Moore go

Or

2.  The Eagles have a successful year so only Siri gets fired. 

Fangio really didn’t pump Bryce Huff up at all. He gave a flat sobering honest answer. Actually pretty refreshing and I like how he’s just a straight shooter. Exactly the way he wouldn’t lie about the Gannon scandal as being the reason he didn’t take the job last season. But really kind of a yikes answer about our big FA signing. He might just be a pass rusher only player.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok...so your 2 scenarios are

1.  The Eagles fail this year and both Siri and Moore go

Or

2.  The Eagles have a successful year so only Siri gets fired. 

Yes not your traditional scenario for sure. But I think in the short version answers these are the two main outcomes. We have our DC in place. Who’s the HC to run the O going forward?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes not your traditional scenario for sure. But I think in the short version answers these are the two main outcomes. We have our DC in place. Who’s the HC to run the O going forward?

Ok...then we agree to disagree. 

Btw...I was trying to read up where Moore was the runner up in the coaching hire in 2021?   Couldn't find it.  Just that he was 9th guy interviewed?   

When asked about the starting LB situation the first name Fangio brought up was Zach Baun. This after Rosie mentioning how we clearly targeted Baun immediately in FA. Seems like the starters at LB are set. Can Dean get in the mix there sans injury feels like the only question going in? Found it telling of the thinking going on here.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok...then we agree to disagree. 

Btw...I was trying to read up where Moore was the runner up in the coaching hire in 2021?   Couldn't find it.  Just that he was 9th guy interviewed?   

This isn’t the Miss America contest where they announce the first runner up for the HC job and place a sash.

John Ross was WR 3 today over Parris

Trotter carted off… early assumption it just being cramps. Lets hope that’s all.

Fangio mentioned they weren’t sure about Q in the slot. But they proved it by putting him out there today and he looked good and a fit.

Smith and Wilson had easy catch opportunities dropped today

Seems fairly universal opinion that practices are fast paced and crisp. Very welcome detail.

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1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

What do you think is different control wise.... 2022 to 2024?  What is the difference with Siri ?

Dom has a position on the team. There, I sovled it

Jalyx powered back both Mailata and Fred Johnson on day one of practice. Wow! Not any news I had expected from him at all.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jalyx powered back both Mailata and Fred Johnson on day one of practice. Wow! Not any news I had expected from him at all.

So hard to not overreact and get hyped over this. This kid was tabbed The Guy for Fangio. Really want to buy into this kid.

Fangio "analytics people miss the boat on what’s important”

quote of the day for sure

DeVonta Smith said he’s been watching a ton of Cedee Lamb tape preparing for Moore’s O. Maybe not the most ideal thing every Eagles fan would want to hear…but telling about the scheme change.

John McMullen wrote 

 

Despite a total of just nine receptions over his first two seasons It’s fair to say the TE2 job is Calcaterra’s to lose after getting extensive work in 12 personnel packages with Dallas Goedert, perhaps a nod to Kellen Moore’s desire to get the tight ends involved in his offense, coupled with the realization that WR3 for the Eagles, a job that would be earmarked for veteran Parris Campbell if the Eagles played Sunday, is not a strength.

Head coach Nick Sirianni has brought up Calcaterra unprompted a few times this spring and has also noted there are different ways to find an extra weapon for the passing game that doesn’t involve the receivers

 

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This isn’t the Miss America contest where they announce the first runner up for the HC job and place a sash.

But you assume Moore was the runner up?

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jalyx powered back both Mailata and Fred Johnson on day one of practice. Wow! Not any news I had expected from him at all.

This was on yesterday on Eagles insider... 6pm on 97.5    The beat writers on there give good insight.  Not like the know it all dorks that are now the hosts of the shows.  15 minutes at the beginning of the show and you get all the good details... without the agenda some of these hosts have.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Head coach Nick Sirianni has brought up Calcaterra unprompted a few times this spring and has also noted there are different ways to find an extra weapon for the passing game that doesn’t involve the receivers

Yes sir... the 5th weapon  ... I am expecting a few more 2 RB sets.    Which would be what the UDFA from Georgia would bring to the table running in a power position with Barkley motioning around as the extra receiver.  you could do the exact same thing with the other RBs in the backfield too.  

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes sir... the 5th weapon  ... I am expecting a few more 2 RB sets.    Which would be what the UDFA from Georgia would bring to the table running in a power position with Barkley motioning around as the extra receiver.  you could do the exact same thing with the other RBs in the backfield too.  

Seems pretty clear they understand we are missing that third WR. Getting a taste and sense of things here to start TC. I’ve been assuming the verdict will conclude a move needs to take place to bring in that third WR. Parris got first  shot. John Ross got his looks today. Two rookies getting their reps in. We’ve been developing Ngata for awhile. Just need to see what WR can be uncovered. Verdict still very much out.

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems pretty clear they understand we are missing that third WR. Getting a taste and sense of things here to start TC. I’ve been assuming the verdict will conclude a move needs to take place to bring in that third WR. Parris got first  shot. John Ross got his looks today. Two rookies getting their reps in. We’ve been developing Ngata for awhile. Just need to see what WR can be uncovered. Verdict still very much out.

Yes... pretty clear we do not have that stud 5th weapon.  Exactly.  Its why they have to switch that player to use the different formations...2nd RB... 3rd WR... 2nd TE etc.   I'm assuming more 2 RB sets this year... the 2 TE set, Moore likes to use that more than we have been .. so that should increase.   I also think A Smith gives a few plays a game as the orbit motion, end around and screen guy.    While still not having the stud 3rd WR... this group should function better than last years group. More versatility with that 5th option... even though we all know clearly no stud 5th option. 

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