41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously with our massive future indebtedness future draft picks are so precious for us to do much going forward. But might have to come off a decent one…depending on which guy we target to go after. It especially makes sense if it’s for a player that’s more than just a one year rental.

What is future " indebtedness "  it's players that we locked up for the future

" but No Mas we have future cap hits for these players"   no kidding 🤦🤦🤦

NFL network last night... talking about 3 players ...getting $130 mil per year ( those are players NOT on the books)  so there is no indebtedness.

The 19 year old without any money or credit card...has no " indebtedness ".. the parents who have a $1mil mortgage on their $4 mil house... are showing " indebtedness " 

Which one is in a better financial situation?

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s overpaying if he’s strictly a one trick pony pass rusher only. He better develop.

Not really... the pass rushers make the most out of the one trick ponies on defense... and you lock in the young guy for 3 years... team control... no guarantees on year 3... easily restructure.. or bye bye Iike Reddick.

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s something a bit different from a pure rotation if a player can only play on very highly likely passing downs. He can’t just rotate in then.

Like Long???? 

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously he should be worth quite a bit if his down season is still more than a top season of a guy that can’t even play half the downs for what like 17 mil a season. If Huff has earned 17…Reddick is easily worth 30. 

Obviously... not what the league thinks.

The ENTIRE LEAGUE who had the opportunity to get him.

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously he should be worth quite a bit if his down season is still more than a top season of a guy that can’t even play half the downs for what like 17 mil a season. If Huff has earned 17…Reddick is easily worth 30. 

What were the 2023 stats for both?

Like one sack difference....in Like 300 less snaps...  one guy way younger. 

Obviously the businessmen of the NFL know what's up.   

34 people have an opinion.

1 guy who isn't a sheep... very proud of that.

Of the other 33 people...32 of them make decisions for NFL teams. 

Hey...but one guy must be right...because he isn't a sheep!  Congrats 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Obviously... not what the league thinks.

The ENTIRE LEAGUE who had the opportunity to get him.

What was the situation when we brought him in as a FA? In one breath you say a pass rusher that isn’t as good that can rotate in or play the majority of downs is worth so much…but then the proven pass rusher that can play the majority of downs isn’t worth anything. Which is it?

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What were the 2023 stats for both?

Like one sack difference....in Like 300 less snaps...  one guy way younger. 

Obviously the businessmen of the NFL know what's up.   

Yeah I’m sure playing all those rushing downs tires a player out some. Not too mention actually playing run and pass instead of just always pinning your ears back going QB hunting. I’m not seeing the case you’re trying to make.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

34 people have an opinion.

1 guy who isn't a sheep... very proud of that.

Of the other 33 people...32 of them make decisions for NFL teams. 

Hey...but one guy must be right...because he isn't a sheep!  Congrats 

32 teams passed on our best C ever how many times in the draft? How many times did these 32 teams pass on Brady? Just like I said how did we get Reddick in the first place? 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What was the situation when we brought him in as a FA? In one breath you say a pass rusher that isn’t as good that can rotate in or play the majority of downs is worth so much…but then the proven pass rusher that can play the majority of downs isn’t worth anything. Which is it?

The situation was he signed a nice 3 year contract right where he was worth.

He will be paid what he is worth the next contract too.   

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

32 teams passed on our best C ever how many times in the draft? How many times did these 32 teams pass on Brady? Just like I said how did we get Reddick in the first place? 

Ohhhh.   In the draft now.... lol

That's the same as saying here is a price for a guy who has been in the league as long as Reddick and everyone passing????  

Lol

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ohhhh.   In the draft now.... lol

That's the same as saying here is a price for a guy who has been in the league as long as Reddick and everyone passing????  

Lol

We paid a guy that can’t even play as many downs and peaked with less sacks than he gets more

Is there any way to show ego....than to think you know the value of a player more than the entire NFL?

I mean... you actually think none of the GMs know the " stats"  they haven't watched film for a guy who has played in the league as long as Reddick ?

There is no guess now...not a college prospect....  seasoned vet to where they all made educated decisions. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We paid a guy that can’t even play as many downs and peaked with less sacks than he gets more

Again... why do you need " downs"??

Who else thinks having 300 more attempts to get one more sack is a good thing?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We paid a guy that can’t even play as many downs and peaked with less sacks than he gets more

Is that why you think Miles Sanders is good.... because he takes 50 carries to get 100 yards....compared to a guy that gets it in 15?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Is there any way to show ego....than to think you know the value of a player more than the entire NFL?

I mean... you actually think none of the GMs know the " stats"  they haven't watched film for a guy who has played in the league as long as Reddick ?

There is no guess now...not a college prospect....  seasoned vet to where they all made educated decisions. 

Happens all the time. That’s how we signed him for what we did in the first place. In fact after his high draft status you could say that’s pretty much been the story of his career. Teams don’t seem to want to pony up the large dough for him being undersized. Seems to me likes he’s proved the 32 teams wrong every season.

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again... why do you need " downs"??

Who else thinks having 300 more attempts to get one more sack is a good thing?

Being fresh with zero responbility to do anything but pass rush is an advantage. Give a pass rusher Sauce Gardner and a top D coverage behind him and really see what happens. In fact…I haven’t heard a single person state they thought Reddick wouldn’t get double digit sacks this season. Not one!

  A bit different than the 31st best coverage guys behind you

Let’s just see what this year’s team can do. TC just started. At least get a peak at which players over and underperforming going into this season. Think we’ve already kind of hashed out some weak areas and depth concerns. Get a better feel once we can see a bit more from them. At least get some more rumors from media practice available people. I hate to bring it up…but almost always some injuries. So reality will force us to adapt and most likely make a move based on whatever happens to our players before the season starts hear.

We are installing new schemes on both sides of the ball. Let these coaches get a look at what they have to work with. Not on paper finally for them to judge. Some real weakness and holes will be identified. Then can go after getting what’s really really needed.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Again... why do you need " downs"??

Who else thinks having 300 more attempts to get one more sack is a good thing?

I think a player that can be ready for all outcomes would be preferred. Not just the sack cherry picker!

A real interesting potential trade candidate is Titans WR Burks. The guy they ended up drafting after AJ forced his way out to us. 

A real interesting guy that could possibly be traded for is TJ Slayton. Packers are supposedly moving to a 4-3 from a 3-4. So they might be interested in moving their Nose. A position we clearly could use. This would make a ton of sense.

The 2020 draft has produced one BILLION in quarterback contracts… and counting: -Joe Burrow: Five years, $275M -Tua Tagovailoa: Four years, $212.4M -Justin Herbert: Five years, $262.5M -Jordan Love: Big deal incoming -Jalen Hurts: Five years, $255M

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The 2020 draft has produced one BILLION in quarterback contracts… and counting: -Joe Burrow: Five years, $275M -Tua Tagovailoa: Four years, $212.4M -Justin Herbert: Five years, $262.5M -Jordan Love: Big deal incoming -Jalen Hurts: Five years, $255M

Jordan Love 4 yr/220M

Hurts has already dropped down to like 8th highest paid now