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The Master plan from SF...Brock Purdy and CMC ... they knew those moves by OTAs?   

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you are agreeing with my assessment all along that Ainias needs time to develop and improve?

I'm saying all rookies will get that...

I'm saying no rookie is or needs to be a finished product day 1.  

I said with my original post, I'd like to see him on a few end around and screen plays ..even just to run the motion to give the other guys a rest.  I've said it would be great to have that by the end of the season. 

How did this simple idea evolve into whatever point you are trying to make?

Your response to me saying Ainias needs time to develop and improve ….you think you’re countering somehow with stating” no rookie needs to be a finished product day one” huh

Why  didn’t you just say …you agree?

Training camp...July 23...33 days ago.  33 days from now its September 27.   There will be development ... and still 14 games to go.

The difference for a guy like A Smith ... the idea will be how he can come in and contribute with the first team...in a real game.   Not " how he looks" 

A guy that was complained about ...the #2 RB....got 4 carries a game.    The role of A Smith might be one touch...and a few decoy/ motion plays.  Why is it a concern it needs to happen in Brazil?

So when’s your timeline you need Ainias to contribute? Week 1? Week 7? Postseason rookie year? Week 18 final year of his rookie contract?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your response to me saying Ainias needs time to develop and improve ….you think you’re countering somehow with stating” no rookie needs to be a finished product day one” huh

Why  didn’t you just say …you agree?

When did I ever say I didn't agree?  I said from the first post that I was looking for a few of those type plays from him at the end of the season?  How does that sound like I disagree he needs time? 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So when’s your timeline you need Ainias to contribute? Week 1? Week 7? Postseason rookie year? Week 18 final year of his rookie contract?

I don't have one....why do we need one...now?

What was the timeline with Clement that we had in August of 2017?

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

When did I ever say I didn't agree?  I said from the first post that I was looking for a few of those type plays from him at the end of the season?  How does that sound like I disagree he needs time? 

could have saved yourself all these posts…and just said you agree.

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I don't have one....why do we need one...now?

What was the timeline with Clement that we had in August of 2017?

So your saying we should just rely on the backup QB to throw passes to an undrafted Rb not known as being a pass catcher for our season plan each offseason?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

could have saved yourself all these posts…and just said you agree.

Or.... follow me here.   You could not look for an argument or try to make up anything more than what was said?

Why would you think from anything I said that I wouldn't think A Smith needs to develop?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So your saying we should just rely on the backup QB to throw passes to an undrafted Rb not known as being a pass catcher for our season plan each offseason?

Hunh?

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I don't have one....why do we need one...now?

What was the timeline with Clement that we had in August of 2017?

Why even have scouts? Why rank players in the draft? Why prioritize certain FAs? Why actually consider the cap space? Is that what you’re saying?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Hunh?

Exactly..,what are you talking about?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why even have scouts? Why rank players in the draft? Why prioritize certain FAs? Why actually consider the cap space? Is that what you’re saying?

Idk....ask John Lynch that question.  It was obvious CMC and Purdy were all part of his " master plan" right?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly..,what are you talking about?

That it would be great to have A Smith involved in a couple of motion and screen plays by the end of the season.   

How did this become any more than just this statement?

4 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Not that anybody cares but just wanted your opinions…I just drafted my fantasy team: stressful…but i took your advice…didn’t overthink it.

In order:

Breece Hall

Jamarr Chase

Travis Etienne

Marvin Harrison Jr

Anthony Richardson

Devonte Smith

Najae Harris

Rhamondre Stevenson

Dalton Kincaid

Bills

xavier Worthy

J Williams Broncos RB

Aaron Rodgers

Yoo Kicker

Then, the "expert” fantasy players said i was an idiot as my first 3 picks have a bye week 12. 

How many teams in your league?  And that's great about week 12... you kick their butts for the first 11 weeks. 

That's pretty solid in the method you drafted... RB, WR.... balance but prioritizing RB.... then same in rounds 3 &4.... didn't over draft a QB ( Richardson should be valuable in leagues that either lower the value of passing or elevate the value of QB rushing)

Then I like that you went 3WRs before 3RBs... that's where there are more WRs than RBs so take that value.  

Solid TE and D....took a kicker that plays more than half his games inside with a team that looks to be in a lot of games. 

Very nice draft... of course we can't really tell 100% unless we saw who you passed on...lol.

Now comes the fun part of picking the right starters each week...lol.

Good luck!

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Idk....ask John Lynch that question.  It was obvious CMC and Purdy were all part of his " master plan" right?

I don’t know what the heck you’re talking about…but what if instead of lowballing our offer of a third round pick for the RB ..we actually outbid the Niners and  trade for McCaffrey instead? Do we win the SB?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t know what the heck you’re talking about…but what if instead of lowballing our offer of a third round pick for the RB ..we actually outbid the Niners and  trade for McCaffrey instead? Do we win the SB?

I’d say yes we do

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t know what the heck you’re talking about…but what if instead of lowballing our offer of a third round pick for the RB ..we actually outbid the Niners and  trade for McCaffrey instead? Do we win the SB?

Idk.... why didn't 29 other teams offer more than SF?  

Why is it always " lowballing" when it's a move you like....and " we overpaid" when it's one you don't?

Isn't it obvious that we offer the most when we actually make a trade....and another team offers more than the entire league not just us?  

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say yes we do

Congrats 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Idk.... why didn't 29 other teams offer more than SF?  

Why is it always " lowballing" when it's a move you like....and " we overpaid" when it's one you don't?

Isn't it obvious that we offer the most when we actually make a trade....and another team offers more than the entire league not just us?  

We offered a third round pick for arguably the best player in the league.

 Niners gave a second, third, fourth and two fifths.

 If that isn’t lowballing…I don’t know what is.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Idk.... why didn't 29 other teams offer more than SF?  

Why is it always " lowballing" when it's a move you like....and " we overpaid" when it's one you don't?

Isn't it obvious that we offer the most when we actually make a trade....and another team offers more than the entire league not just us?  

I said the Dotson trade seemed like fair value…if that factors anywhere into your agenda

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Congrats 

You disagree?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say yes we do

I'd say we win if the QB didn't give KC a free 7 points in between their 2 punts...that was the time of the game momentum was on our side and that key mistake never let us pull away with the 3 score lead going into the half.  

Some say if the field wasn't slippery.... or if the ref didn't make the last call.   Or if Siri went for it before the punter slipped and their return guy avoided 6 unblocked guys we had.

Lots of ifs.  It is what it is.  

But the point is....even your model organization SF ( who hasn't won in 30 years) doesn't have all the answers when OTAs start....they didn't with CMC or with their QB.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We offered a third round pick for arguably the best player in the league.

 Niners gave a second, third, fourth and two fifths.

 If that isn’t lowballing…I don’t know what is.

What did the other 29 teams offer?

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