5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It will be interesting to see what Howie has planned. They went from having a lot of picks at one point to now just 5 left. Might have less if they pull off a trade for Greenard or someone else.

I've been trying to think if there is anyone they could trade to acquire more picks besides the obvious McKee. Maybe a Ringo or Bennett?

Some reporter floated Shipley or RBs in general because the draft is so thin at that position this year. Seems to be making a roster hole unless we like some of the lower echelon guys we brought in recently better.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

What hurts me is next years draft is loaded with Olympic burners.

I don’t think we are done at WR. Wicks is a bridge to installing a new offense. With Brown gone we need a split end.

I’m going to go out on a limb and predict we target the prototype that you and I traditionally prefer — a big guy with speed — next draft. Maybe not in the first round, but in the top 100 picks.

Lemon is clearly the slot. Smith is the flanker. We still need that split end and that’s the position you want the hulking WR with Olympic speed.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

At OT, in signing Fred Johnson as security for Lane, they don't have a "need" for this year. Clearly they weren't strong on this OT class, they could have taken several options last night. Trading up for a WR proves that even further. I'd like to see them add someone later just to take a chance to develop for depth, but they may have that already and continue to develop the OTs they took last year.

They'll draft Lane's replacement next year.

I do want to see them add at OG and maybe Center as well. Need Dickerson's replacement and insurance at Center.

They did that last year... if they do it this year too, its an indictment that those guys didn't show enough... if they don't... maybe they did.

6 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

#1 easiest characteristic to predict future NHL success -- doesn't drop the ball.

I would say it’s "does he skate well” but point taken. 😂

15 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Malachi Lawrence, and 2 4ths

Or

Makai Lemon

I think the Eagles would have taken Iheanachor at 23.

17 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I have no idea. I don't think any part of the passing offense was good even if he improved in that area.

I just remember seeing someone post a tweet mentioning that Hurts doesn't throw to the middle often but he does well when he actually does it

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

It does kind of suck to lose out on 114 and 137 and I would have rather given up 98 but this draft kind of sucks and it was well worth it to be able to jump Pittsburgh and secure Lemon. I WAY prefer Lemon to Iheanachor or Faulk who probably would have been the pick.

137 is functionally a 5th. Well, on the cusp.

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It will be interesting to see what Howie has planned. They went from having a lot of picks at one point to now just 5 left. Might have less if they pull off a trade for Greenard or someone else.

I've been trying to think if there is anyone they could trade to acquire more picks besides the obvious McKee. Maybe a Ringo or Bennett?

Tbh jets should take a chance on McKee. That said dont see them trading their second for him. Plus no 3rd rounder. Maybe eagles get creative like they deal 68 and McKee for 44, 103 and 140. They actually have decent weapons now. have hall, Wilson, cooper, mason taylor, andonai Mitchell and sadiq.

I hope McKee is traded today.

This class is awful. Why would we want 5ths, 6ths, and 7ths?

Just now, Sack that QB said:

I hope McKee is traded today.

From my perspective if they’re trading McKee, I want it done today so that we have all the backfill options available - specifically Nuss.

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Having 9/10 of those route success arrows in the green is pretty nuts. Guy may not have elite speed or size but he is an elite route runner for sure.

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

From my perspective if they’re trading McKee, I want it done today so that we have all the backfill options available - specifically Nuss.

McKee for Grennard and Nuss in the 3rd.

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Pretty much every year I hear that the middle rounds are stacked. Every year they are pretty 'meh', which is why those guy don't go sooner. These guys are generally going to be depth pieces, not needle movers. If you can get a true needle mover for 2 potential middling depth pieces, you do it. The delta from Round 3 to Round 5 isn't so great that the potential upside isn't worth it.

I'm not sure this guy is that though.

I understand this sentiment exists. But to me it sounds like platitudes. I think that in this specific draft class, which is the only one that currently matters, we will see a drop off in talent from the 4th to the 5th round. The delta from round 3 to 5 will be even larger. There will be players that hurt seeing them go during the 4th round.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Having 9/10 of those route success arrows in the green is pretty nuts. Guy may not have elite speed or size but he is an elite route runner for sure.

He does have the capability to get wide open and catch everything, which is good for Jalen Hurts who avoids windows and can be inaccurate.

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They did that last year... if they do it this year too, its an indictment that those guys didn't show enough... if they don't... maybe they did.

Yup. I’m higher on Cameron Williams than most. But I also think it was telling not that they brought him back for week 18 to play in that meaningless game. But they didn’t automatically just IR him with some phantom injury after that game to get a roster spot. They kept them on the roster. To me I think the Eagles believe it is a competition between Fred Johnson and Williams for the swing tackle spot this year. Have insurance (not from alshon) in case Williams doesn’t make the jump. But if Williams is better in training camp, there’s a chance Fred Johnson doesn’t make the roster.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

McKee for Grennard and Nuss in the 3rd.

At that point sign MB and draft a safety in round two and this team is stacked

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

McKee for Grennard and Nuss in the 3rd.

That’s about right, we net Grennard and Nuss for a 3rd.

3rd to MIN for JG

3rd from NYJ/PIT for McKee, which we use for Nuss.

20 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

You don't know if the Eagles would have taken Lawrence. Standing pat I would have taken Thieneman but Howie wouldn't have done that. To your point. I would have rather stood pat and kept the two fouths.

Yeah we dont know what theyd have done but we know what they could have, and possibly should have done. Time will tell if they were right, but Lawrence was one of my guys at 23 all along. I always said, Safety or Edge is going to be BPA at pick 23. Thieneman, EMW, Lawrence, or Howell were my 4 targets there. We could have sat tight and had them.

Now, we are lacking two more draft picks.

Lemon- Im somewhat excited to see an offense with he and Smith giving CBs fits. But I also said many times there is no one worth trading up for in this draft. Lemon was not worth trading up for. He is a very scheme specific, or role specific player. Yes, he may just be in the right scheme here in our new offense. But a scheme specific player costing you 3 draft picks is a poor value, especially drafting him in the top 20. I said many times this draft is full of #2 WRs. You can often get those guys in round 2. We just used 3 picks to take one at 20 overall with no special physical traits.

I dont hate the the player. I like him and Im excited to see how he is used.

There are WRs in round 2 or 3 who would have been just as exciting to me though. Who could also be WR2s.

I hate that we traded up in this draft.

I would have been much happier to have Lemon if he fell to us at 23. And I would also have been happer if we had a safety or edge right now with two 4th round picks still in our arsenal.

26 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I have no idea. I don't think any part of the passing offense was good even if he improved in that area.

Hurts will need to change his game to properly operate an offense predicated on distribution and timing. He was 2.98 seconds to throw in 2025 and is routinely near the bottom of that metric every season. A lot of mobile QBs share that trait of 3 seconds snap to throw, but they're usually challenging the defense with their legs or buying time for the WRs to get open. Hurts is excellent at avoiding and side-stepping the initial QB pressure but I wouldn't classify him as a "scrambling QB" in the way Staubach, Tarkenton, or even prime Russell Wilson or McNabb were.

Hurts seemed almost to have an aversion to running with the ball last season. That's fine if he's making quick reads and distributing the football, but that hasn't been his "main thing". The offense simply can't bog down for 5-6 drives every game like it did last season.

Jon Ritchie might have had the worst possible draft take I have heard in a long time. He said Makai Lemon was a great value pick and is a great player, but he was the wrong pick because they needed an offensive lineman. If someone doesn't like Lemon I can disagree but see your argument. Literally saying you would have passed up on the better player to fill a positional need is how draft busts happen and GM's get fired.

I am really surprised how polarizing this pick is. Howie made some bad picks back in the day reaching to fill needs and ever since he has shifted to sticking to the board and taking the best player he has been one of the best GM's in the league at drafting. Lemon was not only the best player on their board but was ranked between 10-14 by most of the top respected draft experts. As an added bonus it was also a position of need.

As far as freaking out over a 4th round pick and essentially 5th round pick (137) in a bad draft, they can easily move back from 54 or 68 and get back one of those picks and ultimately who cares because look at their last several 4th and 5th round picks.

Asking Hurts to be the conductor of a quick release, quick developing, timing, ball spreading, multi-threat offense is a bold move.

Maybe it works. But I can’t imagine anyone wouldn’t acknowledge it’s a bold change.

I think if Eagles trade for Greenard it'll be a 2027 pick. Will have an extra 3rd for comp pick for Phillips and probably another if they trade Brown. Will have plenty of picks next year.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Asking Hurts to be the conductor of a quick release, quick developing, timing, ball spreading, multi-threat offense is a bold move.

Maybe it works. But I can’t imagine anyone wouldn’t acknowledge it’s a bold change.

I kind of hope we end up doubling up at WR. It would sotra suck to do now with 2 less picks to address other needs.

However, we still lack the speed guy that GB has in Watson, and maybe Golden depending on how they develop and use him.

We cant sill have Hurst, or Watson potentially both will be available in round 3 according to most projections. That gives the X we still lack (if you dont want Smith to be that guy). And it makes Wicks our WR4 which is the highest he should be on any serious team's depth chart.

There is also the possibility of signing Jennings in free agency after the draft when the price should be lower. But, that also makes our WR corps even slower.