Cowboys drafted 3 Edge players.

A couple random things:

McLane had said Howie wouldn't trade AJ Brown unless he thought he was a declining player. So I wonder if that is the case or if Howie's hand was just forced. Howie doesn't seem like a guy to be bullied, who knows.

Berman said the Eagles have an organizational policy where if they call someone to pick them and they don't answer the phone, they will not draft them. So if Lemon never picked up the phone then he wouldn't have been an Eagle. Now I'm sure the Eagles wouldn't just call once and give up, but it was funny hearing that and seeing the clip of him on with the Steelers and the Eagles not being able to get ahold of him at first.

These guys on ESPN really gave it to McVay over the Simpson pick. That was great.

Cardinals are still gonna suck this year

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

A couple random things:

McLane had said Howie wouldn't trade AJ Brown unless he thought he was a declining player. So I wonder if that is the case or if Howie's hand was just forced. Howie doesn't seem like a guy to be bullied, who knows.

Berman said the Eagles have an organizational policy where if they call someone to pick them and they don't answer the phone, they will not draft them. So if Lemon never picked up the phone then he wouldn't have been an Eagle. Now I'm sure the Eagles wouldn't just call once and give up, but it was funny hearing that and seeing the clip of him on with the Steelers and the Eagles not being able to get ahold of him at first.

yeah Ive been wondering who they would have drafted then after trading up and no one else ranked in that tier.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

A couple random things:

McLane had said Howie wouldn't trade AJ Brown unless he thought he was a declining player. So I wonder if that is the case or if Howie's hand was just forced. Howie doesn't seem like a guy to be bullied, who knows.

Berman said the Eagles have an organizational policy where if they call someone to pick them and they don't answer the phone, they will not draft them. So if Lemon never picked up the phone then he wouldn't have been an Eagle. Now I'm sure the Eagles wouldn't just call once and give up, but it was funny hearing that and seeing the clip of him on with the Steelers and the Eagles not being able to get ahold of him at first.

I think that makes sense when the player isn’t at the draft. They just need proof of life and that they aren’t in jail. Lemon would have been the pick regardless.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Seeing the OT we drafted, I would have preferred to have Iheanachor in round 1 and a WR later. Even still, other ways I could have seen our draft going better as well.

However, this is what we got. Hopefully all of these players work out. I feel decently about all but Bell so far.

I think it’s interesting how a massive man who played LT on the second best team in the nation fell to round 3 while the RT on the same team went 10th overall.

The plan for Bell initially has to be RT but perhaps guard is a better spot for him.

Either way, I’m fine using a 3rd on a massive human like him.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

A couple random things:

McLane had said Howie wouldn't trade AJ Brown unless he thought he was a declining player. So I wonder if that is the case or if Howie's hand was just forced. Howie doesn't seem like a guy to be bullied, who knows.

Berman said the Eagles have an organizational policy where if they call someone to pick them and they don't answer the phone, they will not draft them. So if Lemon never picked up the phone then he wouldn't have been an Eagle. Now I'm sure the Eagles wouldn't just call once and give up, but it was funny hearing that and seeing the clip of him on with the Steelers and the Eagles not being able to get ahold of him at first.

AJ was going to be traded eventually anyway because of finances. They need to get younger and cheaper on offense so AJ will be gone, Barkley when the time comes (another year or 2), Hurts too unless he lights it up in the new offense. AJ was most likely going to be traded after next season regardless, he would want a new contract with new guaranteed money. The "drama" around him aside, he was going to be gone as a business decision anyway. Adding all these WRs to the room only makes that more obvious than it was before.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

These guys on ESPN really gave it to McVay over the Simpson pick. That was great.

Yeah. I think it’s clear he likes Simpson but there was another player available that he really wanted. Probably Lemon or Sadiq

8 minutes ago, SinCityEaglesFan2 said:

Cardinals are still gonna suck this year

Water is wet.

Bell said he has been cross trained right and left since he came to Miami, and has been training with Manyweather.

He says he is a plug and play guy you can put anywhere, even center.

Like the confidence.

I hope hes just a huge worker who maybe can lose some weight and get a bit more mobile.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I think it’s interesting how a massive man who played LT on the second best team in the nation fell to round 3 while the RT on the same team went 10th overall.

The plan for Bell initially has to be RT but perhaps guard is a better spot for him.

Either way, I’m fine using a 3rd on a massive human like him.

I don't see Bell as a guard at all. He's REALLY tall, even by our standards. His knee bend looks good for his size, but not good in the sense that he's going to get underneath the pads of a DT in a phone booth. Plus he has those huge arms. He's a pure tackle in my view.

As for why he went later, he's not as athletic. He's nimble for his size. But not some dancing bear like Jason Peters. The other guy is big AND athletic.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

We had 2 picks. We only needed 2 players out of the cupboard. Theres quite a lot more than that available for us so those could have been well used.

NIL didnt go away so next year, prospects will be staying again, and the ones who come out will be older as well because they already stayed in this year.

No argument with anything you say here. By the same token, giving up two devalued 4ths (one of which was a comp pick and as much a 5th as a 4th) to move up three spots from 23 to 20 was less of a price this year than in years past. Other teams paid more. The Texans, for example, traded a 3rd and a 5th to move up two spots, from 28 to 26.

I particularly like your comment about next year’s draft. Ooh, lots of folks talking about how good it will be. Not so fast. NIL is degrading draft quality for the foreseeable future.

Tyree Wilson is one of the busts I got right. I remember him looking so slow when I watched him and not getting why everyone was so high on him. He has no burst off the snap. Kinda stiff too.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Bell said he has been cross trained right and left since he came to Miami, and has been training with Manyweather.

He says he is a plug and play guy you can put anywhere, even center.

Like the confidence.

I hope hes just a huge worker who maybe can lose some weight and get a bit more mobile.

I don't even think he needs to lose weight per se, but probably just re-composition his body. He has some baby fat. convert it to muscle and he'll be fine at his weight. He's just a naturally huge human being at almost 6'10" with a big frame and long arms.

Already learning to hate a former Cowboy and now Packers. Good, good, let the hate flow through you.

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

A couple random things:

McLane had said Howie wouldn't trade AJ Brown unless he thought he was a declining player. So I wonder if that is the case or if Howie's hand was just forced. Howie doesn't seem like a guy to be bullied, who knows.

Berman said the Eagles have an organizational policy where if they call someone to pick them and they don't answer the phone, they will not draft them. So if Lemon never picked up the phone then he wouldn't have been an Eagle. Now I'm sure the Eagles wouldn't just call once and give up, but it was funny hearing that and seeing the clip of him on with the Steelers and the Eagles not being able to get ahold of him at first.

But what did "Fran say" and also what did "Gargano say"

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I think it’s interesting how a massive man who played LT on the second best team in the nation fell to round 3 while the RT on the same team went 10th overall.

The plan for Bell initially has to be RT but perhaps guard is a better spot for him.

Either way, I’m fine using a 3rd on a massive human like him.

Makes me wonder if williams has been cross training at RG

Bell is too tall for guard

Just now, just relax said:

No argument with anything you say here. By the same token, giving up two devalued 4ths (one of which was a comp pick and as much a 5th as a 4th) to move up three spots from 23 to 20 was less of a price this year than in years past. Other teams paid more. The Texans, for example, traded a 3rd and a 5th to move up two spots, from 28 to 26.

I particularly like your comment about next year’s draft. Ooh, lots of folks talking about how good it will be. Not so fast. NIL is degrading draft quality for the foreseeable future.

It disappoints me.

Seattle just drafted Beau Stephens. Hes a day 1 starter for a lot of teams at OG, from Iowa.

The wait between picks has been painful.

Heres another point. You can argue the value of those picks this year is diminished based on the class. But so was the value of the player they traded up for. Its relative. Still probably an overpay (also likely required to trade up with a division rival). And you traded up in a class with players not worth trading up for. Most years, Carnell Tate is a late 1st kind of guy. He was WR1. Our guy, WR2 in the class looks like a typical 2nd rounder. Maybe late 1st if you really allow the avanced stats to talk you in to it. And I dont hate the player. I just hate the value. This is a deep draft in certain positions, and those positions aligned well with our needs. Those picks should have been more valuable to us than other teams.

Dallas did pretty well with them I think, but there are still players I liked even more than who Dallas drafted.