Wentz with prime Brown and Smith would have been awesome to see

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I could respond with a perfectly reasonable post explaining that but then this becomes me bashing Hurts or a Hurts vs Wentz debate. Not what that Wentz post was about.

And my point was that your full grasp was a grasp too far.

4 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said:

This is wildly inaccurate. 2024/25 SB Hurts arguably shouldn’t have even been the MVP. The "dagger” sealed it for him. He didn’t have a huge game in that SB and had pedestrian numbers before that play. He was better in the previous SB. Some of the games in 2017 Wentz had, were incredible.

You’re disingenuous.

You must be new, Most just ignore anything RTK posts.

4 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said:

This is wildly inaccurate. 2024/25 SB Hurts arguably shouldn’t have even been the MVP. The "dagger” sealed it for him. He didn’t have a huge game in that SB and had pedestrian numbers before that play. He was better in the previous SB. Some of the games in 2017 Wentz had, were incredible.

You’re disingenuous.

I wonder which perma banned poster you are on a new account.

Anyway, Jalen Hurts completed 77.3% of his passes for 10 YPA, 2 TD passes for a 119.7 passer rating to go along with 72 rushing yards and a TD in basically 3 quarters of football against a dynasty defense in the Super Bowl. It was a great performance and better than any single game Wentz had in his career.

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Carson Strong was sabotaged by Hurts.

Brutally.

1 hour ago, tuffstuff07 said:

The only thing I wonder was how wentz would of been with the talent hurts has now vs what little he had to work with.

Both of them played a role shaping this team and now we just have to hope hurts can keep improving and growing into the franchise QB so we don't have to worry about that

He had great WR talent in MN and still was just a guy, unfortunately.

26 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

I wonder which perma banned poster you are on a new account.

Anyway, Jalen Hurts completed 77.3% of his passes for 10 YPA, 2 TD passes for a 119.7 passer rating to go along with 72 rushing yards and a TD in basically 3 quarters of football against a dynasty defense in the Super Bowl. It was a great performance and better than any single game Wentz had in his career.

Probably helps having better weapons

54 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Very odd career. He's got records and gear in canton but he bounced around so many teams

His high was amazing but his low was backup. Just super strange

Foles is not so different than a lot of QBs that have some success. He probably would have had a longer career if he had been a first round pick.

11 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

He had great WR talent in MN and still was just a guy, unfortunately.

He did not have a great oline. Also, he's not the same player.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Foles is not so different than a lot of QBs that have some success. He probably would have had a longer career if he had been a first round pick.

Not many have the stats he does though

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He did not have a great oline. Also, he's not the same player.

Well, the point is that he was only that player for 17 glorious games. Otherwise, much to my dismay, he was a JAG.

47 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

I wonder which perma banned poster you are on a new account.

Anyway, Jalen Hurts completed 77.3% of his passes for 10 YPA, 2 TD passes for a 119.7 passer rating to go along with 72 rushing yards and a TD in basically 3 quarters of football against a dynasty defense in the Super Bowl. It was a great performance and better than any single game Wentz had in his career.

Wrong on the new account thing and wrong on your Wentz-Hurts take.

You forgot to insult me btw. That helps your point.

53 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

You must be new, Most just ignore anything RTK posts.

I’m getting that feeling.

30 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Probably helps having better weapons

Arguably a better O line too. But 2017 wasn’t bad even after Peters went out.

24 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

Wrong on the new account thing and wrong on your Wentz-Hurts take.

You forgot to insult me btw. That helps your point.

"You forgot to insult me btw. That helps your point."

Funny thing is you created this account you're posting on June 9th. I haven't posted much in that timeframe and certainly haven't thrown many insults around in that timeframe.

You're blatantly someone who had a previous account and was banned. Going to get ahead of it and just toss you on ignore.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Probably helps having better weapons

At the end of the day, Wentz has played 10 more games than Hurts. He has 6k more passing yards and 40 more passing touchdowns. They're different QBs, one more traditional and one more dual threat. Wentz was a better pure passer, there is literally no argument that exists where Hurts is a better passer than Wentz ever was.

Wentz's pocket presence was phenomenal, and he didn't bail as often as Hurts does. He would climb the pocket, this is one of Hurts' biggest weaknesses and always has been. He has gotten much better at keeping his eyes downfield, but when Hurts leaves the pocket these days the play is basically dead because he's slow as hell and no one knows how to run a scramble drill on this team. When 2017 Wentz was forced out of the pocket there was still a chance to make a play.

Hopefully the OC is working on plays breaking down

I think people see 2017 Wentz through green tinted lenses. He had a great season, but everything seemed to go right that year, even injuries didn't stop them. Everything just clicked, as if it was somehow meant to be.

3 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

I think people see 2017 Wentz through green tinted lenses. He had a great season, but everything seemed to go right that year, even injuries didn't stop them. Everything just clicked, as if it was somehow meant to be.

The one thing that stood out to me was how a ton of guys had career or close to career years that season.

17 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

I think people see 2017 Wentz through green tinted lenses. He had a great season, but everything seemed to go right that year, even injuries didn't stop them. Everything just clicked, as if it was somehow meant to be.

That doesn't change how he played

6 hours ago, Freshmilk said:

Give what a rest? Reminders of our collective infallibility? We are the smartest and most knowledgeable.

Maybe you are. I have no such illusions.

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Wentz with prime Brown and Smith would have been awesome to see

Seeing how Alshon had major issues with Wentz you know that AJ would too.

5 hours ago, NCiggles said:

She has been far more villianized than he has been. Sure, it's distasteful to try to get out of a ticket but I don't think it's unusual or that she went about it in a mean spirited way. It's not like she went down the road of do you know who I am.

Maybe not mean spirited but entitled for certain. Sex or gender doesn't play a role there IMO. "Do you know who I am?". Is it fair that she is suffering far more for their indiscretion? No I don't think it is.

43 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Maybe you are. I have no such illusions.

Understood. You are literal. I can be sarcastic.