1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

If Carter is the same, it's a 6 year, $183mm deal, or just over $30mm AAV.

Which is a bargain if he plays at a high level and remains healthy. IOL and NT/DT tend to have longer careers than the average NFL player.

1 hour ago, aptosbird said:

I am still running with the thought that if Mannion is successful, he is the next HC…and that can happen sooner rather than later.

I think Nick lost all control over coaching hires so there is a mandate in place. I dont think the Eagles would bring in all the talented offensive minds on a trial basis. I think they are part of a succession plan.

I thought about this as well when he was hired. Mannion didn’t feel like a stop-gap hire where they would be content with him leaving after a successful year and continuing this OC carousel they’ve had for years now. The only problem with the him replacing Nick logic is if they win 11-12 games this year, you have no basis in firing Nick. If they only win 7 or fewer games this year, that tells you the offense probably flopped. So their success and failure are tied together.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

My bigger concern with Carter is his health. I kind of thought he might gamble and play this season if he was healthier and then push for a bigger deal next offseason. I think this deal will look like a potential steal if he stays healthy and plays to his potential. He's an elite player at a premium position. He's getting compensated like that level of player. The question remains whether he can play at a defensive MVP level like an Aaron Donald.

I don't think the extension was news to media members. There was, however, some discussion about his value relative to a trade. I really do not believe that the Eagles ever offered him as trade compensation in a deal for either Parsons or Garrett. His name was dropped repeatedly by NFL Insiders as a potential trade chip in a deal for Micah and Myles. Whether that represents reporters just talking out their ass or the GM's for other teams trying to get him, I don't know.

I don't think he'll be like Donald. That guy was a unicorn

I think it was reporters talking out of their ass. We're always in discussion whenever a big name player is up for some reason. It annoying really lol

Though I was super excited about Garrett possibly. But I wouldn't have liked it if we traded for Carter

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

@ Capologists....

Can guaranteed money still be contingent on behavior? Breaking team rules? Breaking the law?

Absolutely. I'd be surprised if the majority of contracts didn't have clauses that void guarantees due to off-field behavior or any type of suspensions.

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Breaking the law?

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Absolutely. I'd be surprised if the majority of contracts didn't have clauses that void guarantees due to off-field behavior or any type of suspensions.

Google's AI answer regarding breaking the law and gaurantees:

Yes, NFL guaranteed salary can be completely voided if a player gets into legal trouble or is suspended. Standard NFL contracts include default "offset" and "default" clauses stating that guarantees become null and void due to a player's failure to perform or render services.

How Legal Trouble Voids Guarantees

• Conduct Detrimental Clauses: Contracts explicitly state that any suspension by the NFL or the club—including violations of the NFL Personal Conduct Policy or substance policies—immediately voids future guaranteed money.

• Failure to Render Services: If legal trouble leads to a jail sentence, detention, or a failure to report, practice, or play, the player is considered in breach of contract, wiping out skill and injury guarantees.

• Loss of Security: While a player may still earn weekly non-guaranteed base salary if they eventually return to the active roster, the financial safety net of millions in future guarantees disappears.

12 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Going to be interesting how much of the ‘gang’ they are able to keep together on the defensive side of the ball over the next few years. I think come contract time, Q is going to take the Smitty contract…a very lucrative one, but not top of the market chasing and allows freedom for Howie to work around.

Howie won't let Q or DeJean hit free agency. Other than that, we'll see. They've finally been drafting really well on defense and have great coaching to develop guys, it's a good problem to have but you want to be able to sustain it as well.

A six-year $30.5M deal sounds so much better.

21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

@ Capologists....

Can guaranteed money still be contingent on behavior? Breaking team rules? Breaking the law?

I think misconduct can void contract guarantees. I am not sure how it plays out from a cap perspective. I would imagine it just impacts future guarantees.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

A six-year $30.5M deal sounds so much better.

Howie's calling. He moves early so in six years this price will be well below market.

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Did he happen to mention the lady he hit's phone number?

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That seems odd to publicly admit to breaking the law which caused an accident with another car. Especially considering he's got money. Though he's got the money to pay the fines and any legal lawsuits so I guess it wouldn't matter for him

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think misconduct can void contract guarantees. I am not sure how it plays out from a cap perspective. I would imagine it just impacts future guarantees.

It voids future guarantees but it also matters how serious of a violation were talking. If they end up going to jail or something the team could go after his signing bonus

Just now, Mike030270 said:

That seems odd to publicly admit to breaking the law which caused an accident with another car. Especially considering he's got money. Though he's got the money to pay the fines and any legal lawsuits so I guess it wouldn't matter for him

He probably already told the police what happened. Taking responsibility doesn't change the damages in a liability claim. The money will probably come from his car insurance.

Since 2021:

• We've resigned our 1st- and 2nd-round picks from the 2021 draft

• We've resigned our 1st- and 2nd-round picks from the 2022 draft

• We've resigned our 1st- round pick from the 2023 draft

• We will definitely be resigning our 1st- and 2nd-round picks from the 2024 draft.

• We will be resigning either our 1st-round pick from 2023 or our 3rd-round pick from 2024.

An amazing run.

Ok what kind of shenanigans is Carter going to get himself into now?

• DUI?

• Bar fight?

• Domestic violence?

• PEDs?

Smart they waited until the start of camp because if this was done a month or two ago there’s no chance he’d be in shape right now

34 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Another focus this year: it might be Fangio's last season and having a replacement. Is that Clint Hurtt who can learn and prepare this year?

Clint already did the learning and was a DC in Seattle. Focus for him has to be Ty Robinson, who was drafted to replace Milton Williams/Ojomo. The focus on D coaching this year is on Kasper with a dose of Pellegrino (sure looks like he leapfrogged Anderson) Washburn (integrating Greenard and Ebitketie and finding out about Epenesa and James-Newby) and to a lesser extent Bobby King (Campbell continuing to evolve and the competition between Chance, Mondon and Lawson).

13 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok what kind of shenanigans is Carter going to get himself into now?

• DUI?

• Bar fight?

• Domestic violence?

• PEDs?

Smart they waited until the start of camp because if this was done a month or two ago there’s no chance he’d be in shape right now

40 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Which is a bargain if he plays at a high level and remains healthy. IOL and NT/DT tend to have longer careers than the average NFL player.

Jerry holding off on extending Williams is going to cost yet again.

18 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He probably already told the police what happened. Taking responsibility doesn't change the damages in a liability claim. The money will probably come from his car insurance.

Hell, his vehicle being over the line at the time of collision would be evident with the debris and skid marks most likely. But I imagine he has good limits and an umbrella policy to cover the damages.

20 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok what kind of shenanigans is Carter going to get himself into now?

Bangs Fletcher Cox's girl

21 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok what kind of shenanigans is Carter going to get himself into now?

• DUI?

• Bar fight?

• Domestic violence?

• PEDs?

Smart they waited until the start of camp because if this was done a month or two ago there’s no chance he’d be in shape right now

Shanahanigans?




too soon?

21 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Ok what kind of shenanigans is Carter going to get himself into now?

• DUI?

• Bar fight?

• Domestic violence?

• PEDs?

Smart they waited until the start of camp because if this was done a month or two ago there’s no chance he’d be in shape right now

Hey pessimistic Pete........Why don't you take a swan dive off the Chesapeake Bay bridge into the jellyfish infested area right into an oncoming speedboat?

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Shanahanigans?




too soon?

Hah