Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

2016 had wentz get drafted and started that Super Bowl run

He was spectacular in that game.

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

2017 class ewww

Not great, but ginger free.

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Pretty sure the signal isn't for players to do when they don't catch a ball. More like "I may not have caught the ball so lets hurry up and get another play off". The second thing I found interesting is I thought they did change the signal already cause last week when Smith made the one incredible toe tapping catch on the sideline he did a hand across his neck gesture

1 minute ago, paco said:

He was spectacular in that game.

Just saying if he didn’t play like an MVP for the first 13 games of that season I don’t know if they are in position for Foles magic to happen. I love Nick Foles, but Nick Foles has never played an entire 16 game schedule and stayed healthy.

People wanna downplay wentz in 2017, but they don’t win without both of those quarterbacks on the roster that year

23 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Here's a thoughts by position group after camp, preseason and 3 weeks:

QB: Well, nothing has locked in Jalen as QB1 more than seeing QB2/3 play. But beyond having 2 terrible backups (McKee's regression remains baffling), and even after that crap fest last night, I think I'd still say overall Hurts has been better than I expected in a new offense. No running game the 1st 2 weeks at all and he found a way to do enough. It's clearly not sustainable and needs to get a lot better, but there's some hope there.

RB: Barkley still has juice if we can block for him, but, his blitz pickup has been noticeably worse. The give Tank more touches optimism seems unfounded - the fumble and somehow his blitz pickup is worse. Shipley has been a positive surprise to a degree as a 3rd down back and the best blocker of the bunch.

WR: As I said earlier, this group is the biggest upside surprise. The faith in Smitty being WR1 is being rewarded so far, and Wicks has been an excellent WR2 with no drops I remember (not calling that low throw last night a drop). And Lemon seems to get open when they don't run gadget plays and screens.

OL: Now the fun begins...Jurgens just can't pass block anymore. His run blocking is OK, but he can't pass block or pick up blitzers. Thuney made an amazing block coming across on a blitzing Woolen last night...no world where Jurgens can do that. I think you have to go to Lampkin. Kendall has looked the part, and Lane is not at his peak but still good. Jordan seemed better last night, and Steen is OK (bad penalty though). Really hope if they can solve LG that it will stabilize.

TE: I have really nothing to add. Nothing of value on the roster here with DG hurt.

DT: Carter and Davis do get doubled a ton, and apparently holding Carter is legal, but need more from them. Ojomo was good weeks 1-2, not as much last night. Carter is good for 2-3 splash plays a game, but the consistency isn't there.

Edge: Very disappointing, especially given the reports about Hunt coming out of TC and joint practices. Greenard looked OK last night for his 1st game action, and Hunt/Smith are best described as "adequate." Maybe they improve if the DTs improve.

LB: Campbell...man, please learn faster. Baun was great week 1, less so last 2 games. But a lot of that may be covering for Campbell. No way we could pay Nakobe, and I'm OK with patience for Campbell since he's still new to the position, but...someone made an Ernie Sims comp, and it rang true. Super athlete, just no insticts.

CB: Q has been the best player on the team, or at least on defense. Woolen has lived up to expectations and then some - thought the penalties last night were ticky tack. Coop...I hope it's an injury and not a decline for other reasons. But they would be better except...

S: WOOF. Just woof. Epps is unplayable - can't cover, can't tackle. Mukuba...again, think you need to have some patience. But tough on the CBs (especially Coop) if you don't trust safeties. Hard for Vic to have the CBs challenge WRs if he doesn't trust the safeties over the top.

ST: Elliott can't be an issue if we never score...he's been good, as has Mann.

I really think they killed McKee's confidence bringing in Dalton and pretty much handing him the #2 spot. I don't understand why other than Mannion wanted him. The idea that keeping Dalton around to wait for a QB injury on another team so they can get something for him is laughable.

13 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Both are sheet options if QB1 goes down. Might as well tank at that point

I would say that too. However, at least with Tanner McKee playing, if he shows any type of success that when he goes to free agency, you might get a comp pick back for him. Whereas Andy Dalton, not happening at this stage of his career

3 hours ago, PoconoDon said:

Howie -2 bad drafts in a row that have yielded zero dominant players

It’s not that they’ve yielded zero dominant players (that’s hard to do every year), it’s that the 2025 draft is beginning to look like an absolute disaster outside of Kendall. Still too soon with 2026, but not off to a good start with Stowers and how they’re utilizing Lemon.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Just saying if he didn’t play like an MVP for the first 13 games of that season I don’t know if they are in position for Foles magic to happen. I love Nick Foles, but Nick Foles has never played an entire 16 game schedule and stayed healthy.

People wanna downplay went in 2017, but they don’t win without both of those quarterbacks on the roster that year

Still doesn't change the fact the years we won it all we drafted ZERO gingers.

Technicality! Ha! Checkmate!

10 minutes ago, paco said:

Not great, but ginger free.

Oh yea? Explain this

11 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The Phillies might need to die in order for the defense to come alive:

Not so fast. Just took lead in 7th. Keep posting....

6 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

I really think they killed McKee's confidence bringing in Dalton and pretty much handing him the #2 spot. I don't understand why other than Mannion wanted him. The idea that keeping Dalton around to wait for a QB injury on another team so they can get something for him is laughable.

How would you feel if they brought in some GINGER to do your job?????

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

you need a thicker skin

No, if you posted an insult toward me and I seemed offended you might say I need thicker skin but here that makes zero sense. You post things that lack evidence or are simply untrue and then don't like facts presented that refute your argument, so you change the argument or move the goal posts, and then just attack the person.

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Be careful with Lurie. He's so poor he might be asking if you can spare any change

With the amount I paid his foundation for this, he better stay quiet.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Oh yea? Explain this

Only humans are ginger, not Animals

10 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

I really think they killed McKee's confidence bringing in Dalton and pretty much handing him the #2 spot. I don't understand why other than Mannion wanted him. The idea that keeping Dalton around to wait for a QB injury on another team so they can get something for him is laughable.

I've always thought Dalton was here because Mannion liked him, thought he was better for the system. I think that's why he is QB2, despite being a dumpster fire.

4 minutes ago, paco said:

Still doesn't change the fact the years we won it all we drafted ZERO gingers.

Technicality! Ha! Checkmate!

I never said it had to be the year they won. I’ve said they’ve won Super Bowls when they’ve drafted a ginger. Technically they won two Super Bowls in the time they’ve drafted 2

Honest question before Carson Wentz got drafted, when was the last time the Eagles drafted a ginger? I know this is a pressing question considering the fact we got our ass kicked last

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I never said it had to be the year they won. I’ve said they’ve won Super Bowls when they’ve drafted a ginger. Technically they won two Super Bowls in the time they’ve drafted 2

Honest question before Carson Wentz got drafted, when was the last time the Eagles drafted a ginger? I know this is a pressing question considering the fact we got our ass kicked last

Sonny Jurgensen?

This play is when I lost it. Thought it had to be a pick when he threw up a lollipop. Nope - wide open completion.

Just now, paco said:

Sonny Jurgensen?

Someone would say, the drafting of gingers has become an epidemic in the eagles organization.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I never said it had to be the year they won. I’ve said they’ve won Super Bowls when they’ve drafted a ginger. Technically they won two Super Bowls in the time they’ve drafted 2

Honest question before Carson Wentz got drafted, when was the last time the Eagles drafted a ginger? I know this is a pressing question considering the fact we got our ass kicked last

Andy Harmon, no doubt.

11 minutes ago, paco said:

Only humans are ginger, not Animals

That’s Matt Collins!

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Someone would say, the drafting of gingers has become an epidemic in the eagles organization.

Only one way to surely stop the epidemic

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I never said it had to be the year they won. I’ve said they’ve won Super Bowls when they’ve drafted a ginger. Technically they won two Super Bowls in the time they’ve drafted 2

Honest question before Carson Wentz got drafted, when was the last time the Eagles drafted a ginger? I know this is a pressing question considering the fact we got our ass kicked last

Beau Allen would be my best guess