Based on Trot2’s play, I would bench Campbell as a starter and use him on third passing downs. Howie needs to avoid using first round picks on players that slip.

33 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Tank replacement. Shipley replacing Barkley. If Barkley can’t go, I expect either Blue or Steele gets activated from the PS in London.

43 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I am not a PHI fan, nor hater, Stoutland is easily one of the best to ever do it. Easily top 10, and prob top 5 OLine coaches in the history of the NFL. Up there with Callahan, Bugel, Mudd, Munchak, prob a couple of others I am missing. Each one of those guys brought something different to the table whether it be scheme or development. Stoutland is recognized by many fans and sportswriters outside of the PHI fanbase as being one of, if not the best at player development.

Alex Gibbs, the OG of zone

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

You have to have a pocket to bail out of one.

A lot of the problem with Hurts is simply quick pressure, some due to teams attacking the zone run and ignoring play action, some due to missed blocks, and a lot due to OL not reading the pressure and adjusting.

This really isn't surprising given the combination of shifting to a completely different blocking scheme while integrating 2 new OL into the lineup and moving Jurgens to LG.

And of course Hurts is slow to anticipate, because the routes are different and the receivers are different, and he didn't get a lot of game reps in preseason.

Check back in a month or two, growing pains were to be expected.

The knock on Hurts was he lacked the arm to play NFL QB, so in a system preidcated on running the ball behind the best run blocking line in the NFL, he became one of the best deep ball throwers in the NFL.

Now he has to make a complete adjustment, but given his track record of adjusting to a new OC every season of his college and NFL career, I'm not betting against him.

The OL has certainly been horrid at times, but don’t forget unless something has drastically changed Hurts is the one making protection shifts and we have years of tape of him not stepping up or sliding in the pocket. I have hope that things will get better, but it has to happen ASAP. I’d prefer 2022 and the back end of 24 to be the norms, not the outlier.

The one thing though with the lack of preseason reps. He played 18 games last year where they had an OC who couldn’t the full play call to him before the mic cut at 15 seconds. New system, new terminology, new just about everything. I’m just not sure they’re going anywhere with this new OL coach. As much as we want to scream ‘should have kept Stout’, IIRC they’ve been begging him to stay the past few seasons on top of reducing his roles last year. Though I wish he was still here, we’ve already seen Stout can coach an OZ heavy team (under Chimp).

2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Stout had 2 HoF for over a decade and at least 3 hall of very goods minimum over the last 10 years, did he make their talent or did their talent make him? The line looked at least as bad last year with Stout here and Cam and Dickerson playing turnstile.

Stout also got his run game coordinator taken from him…for some unknown reason. Stout has lasted through 3 regimes…and a ridiculous amount of changes. He brought the RPO to the NFL with him from Bama and made Chimp Kelly’s scheme palpable at the NFL level for a bit before Chimp’s ego got in the way and he shrunk his playbook down to a napkin. During the Dougie P days, he navigated the OL through a ridiculous amount of injuries to a SB. Under Nick, who i think is the one that promoted him to run game coordinator after Duece left (i honestly can’t remember if that was with Doug being fired or after) and set up an OL and run game that took them to 2 Super Bowls and won 1. He’s got 2 rings to his credit. He’s an all time great OL coach.

Let's remember, for much of 2nd half of year you had Fred Jonnson at RT. I think Bell will be an upgrade from that. Last year's OL with a disabled LD and CJ is not a good one at all. In reality and on paper.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And so it begins

Holy crap, that's going to blow our cap this year, isn't it?

2 hours ago, Eriv20 said:

I think this is a valid question. People have been complaining about letting Stout walk but the line was awful last year while he was here and he had no answers anyway. In my opinion, the 2k rushing season destroyed this oline. It had a much more physical impact than anyone thought. I mean Jordan was talking about how they hadn’t healed from that 2k season heading into last season

Well, after Patullo got promoted basically he walked into the first off season planning meeting with new ideas for the run game and got told then that he was no longer the run game coordinator. If I’m understanding correctly and explaining in a not exactly canon way.

Wow great return. Eagles loading up in 2028 draft for reset

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Wow. FLEECED. Nice to eff the Ravens after bogus trade last year for CB.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Wowza.

Ravens clearly think the problem is new OL coach or Cam’s fit in new scheme

Just now, pgcd3 said:

Wow great return. Eagles loading up in 2028 draft for reset

Also sets 2028 as maybe a cap reset year, unless that's what you meant, I was thinking you meant talent.

1 minute ago, twistr said:

Holy crap, that's going to blow our cap this year, isn't it?

Nah

They actually save $1.35M in 2026. Next year he was scheduled to be $9M cap hit but now will be $15M in dead cap, so about a $5M hit with all things considered.

A 28 2nd and 27 5th for this version of jurgens is diabolical by howie

Loved him as a player, but man he looked cooked this past year it so. He'll be better at C again at least which should help. Wish him the best. Great haul

Are we sure that’s real?

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Insanely good trade

A 2nd round pick for Cam Jurgens is a war crime. The commissioner shouldn’t even sign off on it

Eagles now have 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks in 2028. Probably will get a comp 3 with Ojomo leaving also. Obviously could change over time but they are loading up.

Just now, eagle45 said:

Are we sure that’s real?

Yes eagles announced it already

Holy crap, what a trade by Howie. Incredible value for a dude who may not even be playable.

And I suspect this may be the first trade of a series. They're going to be sellers at the deadline if this season continues where it looks like it's going. Woolen is probably gone, possibly Nolan Smith(I think they only move him if they get like a 1st or 2nd) Ojomo could be gone, etc.

But Dalton will stay to the bitter end.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Howie szn

"That's a bad return"

Time to look up QBs in the 2028 draft.