2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Chambliss could be the number 1 qb off the board. Moore was the number 1 qb heading into the season. A horrible week 2 game and getting knocked out of the SC game with a dirty hit doesn't look good. He'll rebound

No more short QBS please for us. Hopefully hes off the boards before we pick then.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

OK, was in meetings so just saw this. Howie must have magical powers when it comes to trades. I would have said we'd need to attach a premium pick to Jurgens to get that contract off the books - like Jurgens and a 3rd for a 5th or something. He was great in 2024, but he's been arguably the worst offensive lineman in the NFL this year. As @LeanMeanGM pointed out, we save a little over $1mm this year and costs an extra ~$6mm next year - taking $5mm in net cap charges (in a future year) to move up from the 7th to the 5th in 2027 and get a 2028 2nd...and the line likely gets better (it's hard for Lampkin to be worse than the worst lineman in the NFL) is unreal. The Ravens will owe him $16.5mm in guaranteed money next year. Honestly, I won't even be upset if the Ravens get him back to being a serviceable center - wish nothing but the best for Cam after he was a warrior during the SB run.

Guys, this doesn't mean we're selling and trading Riq, Ojomo or Nolan. This was highway robbery. I expect they will play the new starting 5 - Mailata, Kendall, Lampkin, Steen and Bell for the next few weeks and see if things stabilize. Just about anyone is an upgrade from what we saw from Cam at LG this season. If we keep losing, then we sell closer to the deadline (11/10). But we got a 2nd round pick and the team just got better in the short term as well. If it all goes to hell, we have 2 1sts and 2 2nds in 2028 to make moves and try to get a QB in 2027 or 2028.

I'm deliriously happy.

I tend to believe there are a lot of dumb general managers in the NFL. More than we think. Feels ravens were desperate and were going purely based off of reputation of what Jurgens used to be and not in the now.

Highway robbery for Jurgens. That 2028 draft is gonna be a lot of fun!

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

OK, was in meetings so just saw this. Howie must have magical powers when it comes to trades. I would have said we'd need to attach a premium pick to Jurgens to get that contract off the books - like Jurgens and a 3rd for a 5th or something. He was great in 2024, but he's been arguably the worst offensive lineman in the NFL this year. As @LeanMeanGM pointed out, we save a little over $1mm this year and costs an extra ~$6mm next year - taking $5mm in net cap charges (in a future year) to move up from the 7th to the 5th in 2027 and get a 2028 2nd...and the line likely gets better (it's hard for Lampkin to be worse than the worst lineman in the NFL) is unreal. The Ravens will owe him $16.5mm in guaranteed money next year. Honestly, I won't even be upset if the Ravens get him back to being a serviceable center - wish nothing but the best for Cam after he was a warrior during the SB run.

Guys, this doesn't mean we're selling and trading Riq, Ojomo or Nolan. This was highway robbery. I expect they will play the new starting 5 - Mailata, Kendall, Lampkin, Steen and Bell for the next few weeks and see if things stabilize. Just about anyone is an upgrade from what we saw from Cam at LG this season. If we keep losing, then we sell closer to the deadline (11/10). But we got a 2nd round pick and the team just got better in the short term as well. If it all goes to hell, we have 2 1sts and 2 2nds in 2028 to make moves and try to get a QB in 2027 or 2028.

I'm deliriously happy.

I agree this doesn't necessarily mean they are selling, yet, even though it kinda seems like it. I said it at the time but moving Kendall to C and Jurgens to LG was a huge indictment on Jurgens more than people realized. You don't just take a guy out of his natural position unless you aren't really high on him to begin with.

Seriously, this can't be real. It just can't be.

42 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Are we sure that’s real?

It's real, and its spectacular.

Howie Hustle is in his element. He flat out robbed the Ravens. Did they have Big Dom negotiating with a gat in hand?

I’m all for this rebuild, get rid of Siri, trade Hurts, Ojomo and Woolen.

Let’s get our QB in the draft and get started on a new era with a new HC.

Hurts Sirianni era has begun to end

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I tend to believe there are a lot of dumb general managers in the NFL. More than we think. Feels ravens were desperate and were going purely based off of reputation of what Jurgens used to be and not in the now.

Again, I wish nothing but the best for Cam. Even if he does rebound some, you have to make this trade.

This is arguably Howie's best move of all of 2026

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

This is arguably Howie's best move of all of 2026

Would probably said Woolen prior to this.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

This is arguably Howie's best move of all of 2026

Best move since taking the beer to the head at the parade and still partying

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Again, I wish nothing but the best for Cam. Even if he does rebound some, you have to make this trade.

For sure you do it. No way you keep him with a back issue that may have crippled his career when ravens are offering a 2nd.

Off-topic from this, I actually think Declan Doyle if they move on from sirianni is gonna be on the top of their list. When Lamar has played this year in that offense, he’s looked fantastic and they’ve elevated flowers to another level

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

This is arguably Howie's best move of all of 2026

It's this or getting a 1st for AJ when everyone knew we had to move him. Trader Howie is magic.

This is one of Howie's best moves ever. Up there with getting a 1st for Wentz when everyone knew we had to move him.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Would probably said Woolen prior to this.

Getting a 2028 1st for AJ was amazing as well since everyone knew we had to move him.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

For sure you do it. No way you keep him with a back issue that may have crippled his career when ravens are offering a 2nd.

Off-topic from this, I actually think Declan Doyle if they move on from sirianni is gonna be on the top of their list. When Lamar has played this year in that offense, he’s looked fantastic and they’ve elevated flowers to another level

Declan Doyle should for sure be target #1 for Siri’s replacement.

I do kind of wonder what impact this will have on the locker room though. Losing a Captain in Lane Johnson and then trading away Jurgens in back to back days could be a bit of a dark cloud. Especially with the past two performances. Jurgens wasn't playing good and wasn't a captain but I imagine he was a respected veteran on the team.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Getting a 2028 1st for AJ was amazing as well since everyone knew we had to move him.

@vikas83 Have you figured out the cap implications of Lane and Cam's departures?

Thanks.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Getting a 2028 1st for AJ was amazing as well since everyone knew we had to move him.

Aj was pretty good. Frankly i think it is a good move but i also think if wasn’t as much baggage probably could’ve gotten more with his pure ability.

I don’t think we’re done on the woolen move. If they’re bad at the deadline, they have the potential to trade a starting caliber corner. They might be able to get a 2nd round pick for him from a desperate team that is a contender that really needs a corner. even if they don’t, they’re gonna get a comp third round pick. So you got a whole year of starting level production and then a third round pick in 2028.

27 minutes ago, paco said:

Excellent value. Given the amount of $$$ we are eating, that's probably why we got so much.

Did we pick up like $20M in dead cap with the trade?

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

It's this or getting a 1st for AJ when everyone knew we had to move him. Trader Howie is magic.

This is one of Howie's best moves ever. Up there with getting a 1st for Wentz when everyone knew we had to move him.

I'm not sure I love his in season trades since Ajayi but he can sell a used car

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

@vikas83 Have you figured out the cap implications of Lane and Cam's departures?

Thanks.

Cam is a net cost of ~$5mm over 2026 and 2027,

Haven't looked at Lane yet, and will depend when they file the paperwork. Been in meetings non-stop last 2 days.

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

Declan Doyle should for sure be target #1 for Siri’s replacement.

We have to be prepared that our next coach will be someone no other team would consider. Ever since Chip each coach has been no high name on any list.