20 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

I do like Hurts. That said. It is funny watching the posters go on about him being a winner. As if it's only Hurts when they win. Then the Excuses line up when the Eagles lose how it's not his fault. Then it's a team game.

This again is an example of the batting average analogy. The team wins as much as any team in the league. No excuses needed.

When the team loses it’s rare compared to other teams so obviously there’s normally going to be (Cam cough) extenuating circumstances when they lose.

Most people consider the QB the most important player so when a team wins this much they figure they have some kind of secret sauce. Same goes for Sirianni.

Injuries, new coaches, drama from babies that want to be traded to teams with even worse QBs, season with awful defense, seasons with great defense, season with a great Oline, seasons where the can’t run or block anyone (two in a row now)… and yet they keep winning as much as any team in the league. So yeah. They’re gonna get a pass sometimes.

47 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

What about play recognition? Nakobe was like a robot he reacted insanely quick. Miss that

Nakobe gambled alot Coming downhill immediately. Also too small and a bit fragile. had to keep Him clean. But very smart player.

34 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Campbell is a bust

Nah

Improving but needs to be more physical. May not have that in him

Nakobe is great example of a player who panned out despite the spider chart/RAS score

Not knocking it. It's a tool. But it's definitely not batting 1000 when it comes to predicting NFL success. Happy he's having a good year so far.

12 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Nakobe is great example of a player who panned out despite the spider chart/RAS score

Not knocking it. It's a tool. But it's definitely not batting 1000 when it comes to predicting NFL success. Happy he's having a good year so far.

This is what killed that freakbeast RAS guy

McLane said on his podcast that he heard from a source that the Eagles have been in the search for a starting OL but this was before they traded Jurgens. So unsure if they changed course or if they’ll still try to get one.

3 hours ago, jojodancer said:

Defense was trash that game (compared to what they did all season) and couldn't make a stop in the end. Getting beat by the Juju Schuster's and Kadarius Toney's of the world. And tricked at the goal line. Twice! Weak argument.

They still held the Chiefs to less points than the Eagles O put up…they lost by 3. Who handed the Chiefs 7? To blame the D while touting the person who made the point difference is wild. Logically you could say he did cost them that SB with an unforced error. Ya…the D wasn’t great but still the point remains.

3 hours ago, justwinbaby said:

Yeah defense played great. So much better than Hurts did!

They weren’t great. The Eagles lost by 3, Hurts gave the Chiefs 7. That’s the defenses fault?

52 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Nakobe is great example of a player who panned out despite the spider chart/RAS score

Not knocking it. It's a tool. But it's definitely not batting 1000 when it comes to predicting NFL success. Happy he's having a good year so far.

It's worth acknowledging his position.

IRRC, he did not work out at the combine. Everyone had him projected as a big time athlete based on how quick he looked on Georgia film, but he probably wasn't a big test guy and didn't work out (or maybe he was injured). That said, we all know off-ball LB is a read and react position. Edge is a downhill position where I'd have major reservations about an awful RAS.

Campbell is a RAS monster who can't utilize any of it because he's just floating around taking false steps and being tentative in space at the second level. Being an edge has been attempted and hasn't worked out for him either...but physically (and in terms of instincts/skill set)...that's where he belongs.

When I guaranteed the 2026 Eagles would start more dire OL combinations than any year in recent memory, I was thinking more a mix of Fred Johnson at RT and Drew Kendall filling in at LG and C. I had not envisioned Lampkin, Jake Majors, and Bell as 3/5 of one of the combinations.

23 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

They weren’t great. The Eagles lost by 3, Hurts gave the Chiefs 7. That’s the defenses fault?

If the NFL Network does a top 10 all-time Super Bowl gaffes list, that play will be on it.

@mattwill 27-20 jags

39 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

They weren’t great. The Eagles lost by 3, Hurts gave the Chiefs 7. That’s the defenses fault?

Hurts was by far the best player on the field that day. What are we even talking about? I get that he's not playing well right now but this revisionist nonsense is exactly why guys like JR have had enough.

37 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

They still held the Chiefs to less points than the Eagles O put up…they lost by 3. Who handed the Chiefs 7? To blame the D while touting the person who made the point difference is wild. Logically you could say he did cost them that SB with an unforced error. Ya…the D wasn’t great but still the point remains.

If you watched that Superbowl and came away with the idea that Hurts is the reason they lost and not the defense, then you have lost your mind and have lost the ability to reason. Without him, they are not even ìn that game. If Hurts had the ball last (with reasonable time) and doesn't win, they would be all over him. Objectively, the defense has the ball there to win the game in the end and choked there with Bradberry. Plain and simple. He more than did his job in that Superbowl. Unfortunately, he never got the chance to stage the epic comeback that we know would have happened with the way the game was going. A QB is going to have a turnover here and there. People talking out of both sides of their mouth with him. They want him to be a risk taker and then if he has a turnover in trying to be aggressive and make a play, he's a bum now with the turnover. We saw Carson Wentz playing hero ball here. He was an unmitigated disaster. Hurts got cheated in that performance with bad defense and bad officiating. I think certain fans don't deserve this guy in what he's brought to Philly. You may be one of them.

3 hours ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

Super bowls are a team accomplishment. Period.

And Hurts has only won a Super Bowl the year he had a 2000 yard RB and a top defense

7 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

If you watched that Superbowl and came away with the idea that Hurts is the reason they lost and not the defense, then you have lost your mind and have lost the ability to reason. Without him, they are not even ìn that game. If Hurts, had the ball last (with reasonable time) and doesn't win, they would be all over him. Objectively, the defense has the ball there to win the game in the end and choked in the end with Bradberry. Plain and simple. He more than did his job in that Superbowl. Unfortunately, he never got the chancee to stage that comeback with real time on the clock. A QB is going to have a turnover here and there. People talking out of both sides of their mouth with him. They want him to be a risk taker and then if he has a turnover in trying to be aggressive and make a play, he's a bum now with the turnover. We saw Carson Wentz playing hero ball here. He was an unmitigated disaster. Hurts got cheated in that performance with bad defense and bad officiating. I think certain fans don't deserve this guy and what he's brought to Philly. You may be one of them.

That turnover wasnt taking a risk on a throw, it was just a boneheaded fumble.

18 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Hurts was by far the best player on the field that day. What are we even talking about? I get that he's not playing well right now but this revisionist nonsense is exactly why guys like JR have had enough.

He announces his departure all the time. How much more until you’ve had enough?

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He announces his departure all the time. How much more until you’ve had enough?

And miss opportunities to clown on you for not understanding basic facets of the sport?

13 minutes ago, Lambo said:

That turnover wasnt taking a risk on a throw, it was just a boneheaded fumble.

Wouldn't quite call it boneheaded, trying to make a play and it slipped out of his hands while trying to shift hands. Happened in the 2nd quarter. Eagles were up 24-14 at half time. Where was the defense in the 2nd half? Yeah, Hurts lost the game. Keep trolling.

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

They weren’t great. The Eagles lost by 3, Hurts gave the Chiefs 7. That’s the defenses fault?

There were 2 - two - plays where Chiefs WRs were wide open in the red zone and scored an easy TD. That horrible defense gave the Chiefs 14 points.

These arguments are stupid.

Re Wicks :

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