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EMB Blog: 2021 Offseason

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Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Robinson projects more as a nickel CB. I dont think he was our guy. I think it was McNeil. And we took Milton Williams right after- which I like better anyway... When I saw McNeil go, I had a strong hunch/hope we were getting Milton there, and we did.

 

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1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I sure as effing hell hope it’s not. 

no reason why it would be. December is plenty long enough to recover from the ACL. Just a stupid question that Howie apparently had to respond to.

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Browns select Anthony Schwartz, WR

This is one of my sleepers. Big upside athlete. Needs to work on hands and routes. Got some upside and special teams.

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2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Robinson projects more as a nickel CB. I dont think he was our guy. I think it was McNeil. And we took Milton Williams right after- which I like better anyway... When I saw McNeil go, I had a strong hunch/hope we were getting Milton there, and we did.

 

I liked McNeill for us.  Guessing they were comfortable with a few of the DTs and traded down.

Somthe trade down from 70 seems to have been dumb 

as I suspected 

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

Yet Howie claims to be following the draft board.

So is Donohue upset b/c he followed the board or b/c he would have ignored the board and drafted for need?

Logically, Donohue would react that way because they missed out on a higher rated player. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

correct. reaching for an average CB prospect who flames out by 3 years from now isnt going to be as good as finding a long time contributor along the DL. Not the biggest need, but the biggest impact. And building properly by looking down the road rather than foolishly trying to patch holes in a rebuilding year anyway. 

I'm with you and I was arguing hard for loading up on DB's early and often in this draft. The fact is, this is a two year rebuild and a team with tons of needs. Forcing need picks is what leads to bad drafts. You'd think people would be happy they are sticking to their board and looking for value picks. They can sign Steven Nelson and/or draft a corner next year with one of their three first round picks. I wasn't happy with the Dickerson because of the injury risk but the Williams pick was a good one. Getting a good pass rushing 3rd DT with starting upside is better than a slot corner like Aaron Robinson or drafting another Rasul Douglas like Ifeatu Melifonwu.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

I liked McNeill for us.

apparently so did Donahoe

22 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I wonder what Zach Wilson’s mom is doing right now.  

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Titans select Monty Rice, LB

Little early for my liking.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

If that’s what he’s POd about I’m glad Howie overruled him. We do not need another slot corner and I want freakish athletes on the DL.

1 minute ago, Mrkingofspades said:
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Browns select Anthony Schwartz, WR

This is one of my sleepers. Big upside athlete. Needs to work on hands and routes. Got some upside and special teams.

Was that you I was talking with saying he was going tonight?

Just now, T-1000 said:

I'm with you and I was arguing hard for loading up on DB's early and often in this draft. The fact is, this is a two year rebuild and a team with tons of needs. Forcing need picks is what leads to bad drafts. You'd think people would be happy they are sticking to their board and looking for value picks. They can sign Steven Nelson and/or draft a corner next year with one of their three first round picks. I wasn't happy with the Dickerson because of the injury risk but the Williams pick was a good one. Getting a good pass rushing 3rd DT with starting upside is better than a slot corner like Aaron Robinson or drafting another Rasul Douglas like Ifeatu Melifonwu.

Honestly, draft Cox and sign Nelson and this has been a HELL of an offseason. 

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

Yet Howie claims to be following the draft board.

So is Donohue upset b/c he followed the board or b/c he would have ignored the board and drafted for need?

I'm reading it as the Eagles had a few players with similar grades so they traded down. One of those players got picked and upset Donahue but Howie was fine with it because Williams was similar grade for him.

Of course that's pure guess work.

The draft is a crapshoot. We traded back knowing we'd get an extra pick and at worst, one of the the 2 DTs we'd take at 73. If one went ahead of us, which happened, we'd go with the other.

That's just smart EVEN if you prefer the other guy. Tom Donahue is old-school. Those scouts want "their guys". 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Somthe trade down from 70 seems to have been dumb 

as I suspected 

Speak for yourself.  I much prefer Milton to a 24 year old slot corner.

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2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Yet Howie claims to be following the draft board.

So is Donohue upset b/c he followed the board or b/c he would have ignored the board and drafted for need?

Might be that he traded down and lost the higher rated player that Donahoe wanted and Williams was the consolation prize.  

 

That would be technically following the board, yet still pissing off Donahoe, while Donahoe wanted to also follow the board.  But Howie was trying to squeeze value.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Was that you I was talking with saying he was going tonight?

Not sure, but I mentioned he should go round 3. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

The draft is a crapshoot. We traded back knowing we'd get an extra pick and at worst, one of the the 2 DTs we'd take at 73. If one went ahead of us, which happened, we'd go with the other.

That's just smart EVEN if you prefer the other guy. Tom Donahue is old-school. Those scouts want "their guys". 

I'm sure I'd agree more often with Donahoe than Howie. But drafting ANOTHER nickel corner over Williams? Big hell no for me.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

That would be technically following the board, yet still pissing off Donahoe, while Donahoe wanted to also follow the board.  But Howie was trying to squeeze value.

Good. That's his job!

 

I didn’t mention it earlier, but nice to see my guy Josh Palmer go tonight. It’s a little surprising, but he’s one of the few decent WR prospects with good size. 

7 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

Who else likes our draft so far? Hit me with any reaction to gauge

Loved the moves in first round

I’m uninspired but fine with 2nd/3rd rounds, time will tell on those two picks 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

The draft is a crapshoot. We traded back knowing we'd get an extra pick and at worst, one of the the 2 DTs we'd take at 73. If one went ahead of us, which happened, we'd go with the other.

That's just smart EVEN if you prefer the other guy. Tom Donahue is old-school. Those scouts want "their guys". 

Pretty much how I see it too.

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