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EMB Blog: 2021 Offseason

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I realize the Eagles have a new coaching staff this year, but some things are conserved across generations.  Worth looking at the Eagles' centers over the years:

Bubba Miller: poor man's Kelce.  Very mobile blocking in space.

2002-2005: Hank Fraley.  Not a starting quality NFL athlete, not mobile, not strong...but reportedly/presumably very good pre-snap and reliable.

2005-2010: Jamal Jackson.  Sort of the Tra Thomas of OC's.  Not very active in opening holes on the ground despite a huge frame, but you just weren't getting around him to pressure the QB.

2011-present: Kelce.  Attitude, coach at the LOS, huge mobility blocking in space.  Can get collapsed into the pocked.

 

The center is the glue and the bridge between the two sides of the OL.  The underlying similarities here are pretty cerebral players with a certain toughness to them.  Some big and immobile, some small and quick.  Dickerson may actually fit the mold they want at center despite seeming like a polar opposite of Kelce upon first glance.

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2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Honestly, draft Cox and sign Nelson and this has been a HELL of an offseason. 

I know it's a long shot but I really think Nelson would be a great signing if we can make the numbers work. 

Spoiler

Bills select Spencer Brown, OL

Pretty good pick here. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

I realize the Eagles have a new coaching staff this year, but some things are conserved across generations.  Worth looking at the Eagles' centers over the years:

Bubba Miller: poor man's Kelce.  Very mobile blocking in space.

2002-2005: Hank Fraley.  Not a starting quality NFL athlete, not mobile, not strong...but reportedly/presumably very good pre-snap and reliable.

2005-2010: Jamal Jackson.  Sort of the Tra Thomas of OC's.  Not very active in opening holes on the ground despite a huge frame, but you just weren't getting around him to pressure the QB.

2011-present: Kelce.  Attitude, coach at the LOS, huge mobility blocking in space.  Can get collapsed into the pocked.

 

The center is the glue and the bridge between the two sides of the OL.  The underlying similarities here are pretty cerebral players with a certain toughness to them.  Some big and immobile, some small and quick.  Dickerson may actually fit the mold they want at center despite seeming like a polar opposite of Kelce upon first glance.

I have no idea why you continue to make these weird jabs at Tra Thomas. 

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I was being a jerk there.   Injuries are always a concern with any trade.  BUT... a trade isn't finalized until a physical is passed.

 

How do you undo a trade involving draft picks that have already been exercised? Think this through. :lol: 

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Anyone of these recent picks, who we could have had at #84, make a difference?

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Good. That's his job!

Its not his job to squeeze value at the expense of talent though.   It's all speculation.  But I do trust Donahoe more than Howie.  Donahoe comes from the Pittsburgh organization, where they have a type of player they covet, and they always seem to end up with, without getting cute and moving around a ton on draft day.  Howie moves around all the time, and has a far worse track record of drafting success.   Is it really "value" when the players don't work out here?

What this night tells me is that Howie 100% is the guy making the moves.  New coaching staff or not, Howie is running the show.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I have no idea why you continue to make these weird jabs at Tra Thomas. 

Jabs?  I am a Tra Thomas fan and think he's one of the most underrated players of the AR era and one of the best Eagle OL of all time.

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Logically, Donohue would react that way because they missed out on a higher rated player. 

Honestly though no one looked thrilled/excited in the room but Howie. Think Howie and the Analytics guy went rogue on the scouts. I had Williams in the mid 4th round. Can still be a nice player but the reactions in that room say a lot. 

22 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

This reeks of a Pumphrey.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I know you love that avatar and all.  But I’m here to tell you that 3 months have come and gone.  You freak.  

I said I'd keep it through the draft.

Granted my last avatar was a skeleton holding a sign that says "be gay do crime" so it's not like I have a high standard here. 

Spoiler

Ravens select Ben Cleveland, OL

 

Sure sounds like we missed our guy...

What an embarrassment the Ravens just trotted out to rep their org.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Jabs?  I am a Tra Thomas fan and think he's one of the most underrated players of the AR era and one of the best Eagle OL of all time.

Just weird comments about him being like Orlando Brown and the Jamaal Jackson of tackles. Both are insulting. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

That's comforting from their medical staff :roll: Pick the dude he's our job security.

Spoiler

Bucs select Robert Hainsey, OL

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Sure sounds like we missed our guy...

Good.  I prefer Williams to the players that went in the interim.  Knowing that he wasn't the guy our scouts/FO preferred makes me like him even more.

Just now, Wentz_Era said:

What an embarrassment the Ravens just trotted out to rep their org.

What did I miss?

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

What this night tells me is that Howie 100% is the guy making the moves.  New coaching staff or not, Howie is running the show.

Besides the voices in your head, what tells you that. They have always valued the lines as an organization since Lurie bought the team and have had more success drafting there than at other positions. They haven't forced positional needs to gotten poor value with either pick tonight which are both Howie specialties. 

1 minute ago, TEW said:

How do you undo a trade involving draft picks that have already been exercised? Think this through. :lol: 

The trade with the 49ers from last year's draft for Marquise Goodwin was voided because he opted out for 2020.   The 49ers surrendered their 7th round pick this year to the Eagles.  I've thought it through, as has the league it seems.   Provisions are in place.

Forsythe in R4 please, have Stoutland coach him up. He has all the physical tools, another Mailata.

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Anyone of these recent picks, who we could have had at #84, make a difference?

We'll know in about 3 years.

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